Im_Spartacus wrote:Hazy2 wrote:
If you think spin has left a nice taste you were not at Wembley last week, fuck you and fuck shithouse players who pissed all over our day last week. What chance did he have if this week is anything to go by, I was there 1-6 I was there 1-2 at the scum and for me actions on the pitch mean more to me than some snidey cunt turning wheels behind a mans back, I am angry with the club anything Mancini pissed me off with this season seems now to be a re-think as he was a dead man walking, so who is to blame....
I'll ignore the 'fuck you', and the slightly hysterical tone of your post, but if it helps, let me explain a little about the psychology of management, because there is blame on all sides here, but you only seem to want to apportion it to the players.
Performance, of any individual in any job, is down to the motivational factors which apply at any given time. And this applies as much to an astronaut as it does to a street sweeper or a footballer.
You have motivation from personal pride, pride in doing a good job and of being seen to do a good job. The level of motivation at this level differs from individual to individual. Some have no pride in their personal work performance, but most will know there is a minimum level that they need to achieve to prevent questions being asked.
You have financial motivation, which for many is a need to provide for the family, meaning that its important to do a good job to keep your job and continue to provide for your family. This one arguably doesnt apply to footballers though, they are all to some extent playing for a new contract, a transfer away, or their own personal financial interest.
The two factors above, if the player is in the right frame of mind will only ever result in a certain level of peak performance, lets say 70% of their capability.
The other 30% of a persons performance needs to be extracted by a good motivator, and for that to happen, the motivator needs to be able to push all the right buttons at the right time. If all those factors come together, you end up with players playing at close to 100% of their ability week in week out.
If the manager is unremarkable, then a group of strong willed individuals can still achieve the 70% levels of performance baed on their personal pride and financial motivations.
If however the manager's motivational ability causes people to resent their approach, not only will the player never hit 100%, he also won't hit 70% because his personal motivation will suffer. How much their personal motivation suffers is down to the strength of character of the player, but to expect someone to perform at a high level under these conditions is just not going to happen.
The very best professional footballers can probably perform at 70% for much of the time, which is what has seen us win the league last year, but question when you last think that the team consistently played to its potential. Because for me, it was the period prior to the 1-6. After that, something changed, and by and large after that, all of our players have consistently performed below their top level. This season, there have been some occasions when their performance has been so bad, you really have to wonder what their frame of mind actually was, and on these occasions, the whole team played badly, not just individuals, so its clear that something affected them all equally, because i'm not having it that they all get together and decide to play wank at southampton for example - but maybe no belief in the system they were playing, disheartened by the pre-match motivation? Who knows.
But the reality is, you cant just say that players can turn up and play at the highest level every single week - because for that the orchestra and their conductor need to be all on the same page in order to get that extra 30% performance out. If the conductor actually pisses the orchestra off, and the orchestra are stressed, flustered and not concentrating properly, not only wont you get the extra 30%, you will get more bum notes than on a night when they are playing within their comfort zone.
So yes, there is blame all round for what happened, but performances are nothing to do with an individual taking conscious decisions to play shit to undermine a manager, but everything to do with individuals struggling to hit the heights in a situation where they feel actively demotivated.
Mancini therefore only has himself to blame for his style of management which caused these motivational issues to surface
Sorry for the Fuck you, Having spent the night in the Co of a rag or 4, your reasoning is more akin to a debate some twats talking shite after a boring cornerhouse drama. This is City and Mancini is more of a man than the likes of Hart and the CEO at this point for me. Still raw mate. Again offence caused was wrong. Sorry. Rags are made up I can tell you.
