Paranoia and Conspiracy Theories

[The Italian Job]

I'll start off as this is my favourite thread.

The pen at the swamp today. Keeper didn't touch him, the ref knew he didn't touch him and gave it anyway. How do I know he knew? He didn't fucking book the keeper.

How can you give a pen for the keeper bringing down the attacker in the box without touching the ball without booking him?

The refs are bent as fuck. Not only did the ref do his bit by giving the scum everything he could but Wigan didn't even pretend to play, they set up 2 rag goals for fucks sake.

So is the "conspiracy" against City, against Wigan, or for United?

Be careful what you answer now, everyone here really cares about your opinion.

What do you think then? Because, you know, everyone here really cares about your opinion.

[mcfc1632]

Twatenburg was true to form

It was not just the 'handball' - it was all the continuous fouling by Stoke with the cards staying in the pocket - or in some cases not even the award of a free-kick - just how the fuck did Adam go through that game without being booked - it was just permission to carrying on lazily fouling all game

And the the number of soft free-kicks given against City!!!

That guy is clearly anti-CITY and I just hope that we do not get him for many games this season - especially not the important ones - but I expect we will. People point out that he reffed the 1 - 6 - but even in that he was biased - many free-kicks again not given and the clear penalty (remember the one at Chelsea as well)

Thank fuck that cunt Walton has retired

[Beefymcfc]

Welcome back old friend, welcome back.

[Tokyo Blue]

I'd like to throw in the three free-kicks we amassed against that most genteel of teams - QPR - as further evidence, just in case anyone actually cares what I think.

[The Foggy Blue]

I care what you think Tokyo

[Ted Hughes]

It would be interesting to see the number of free kicks we've had compared to the amount of possession we've had & then compare that to Utd Liverpool etc. It does seem to be carrying on from last season, where even if we had the ball for 70% of the time, we still conceded more (sometimes twice as many) free kicks as the opposition.

[ashton287]

Someone came up with the possession/decision's for stat last season.

The rags and us were opposites from what i can remember. Us having more possession and more decisions against us and them having less possession with more decisions going their way.

[dazby]

I'd like to see the stats on that if someone could source it. Please?

[Tokyo Blue]

I can give you some numbers.

Free-kicks given to each each team.

City 6 Southampton 4 - fair from Mike Dean as you would expect from the best referee in the land. Possession 64-36.

City 10 liverpool 7 - which to be honest surprises me a little because when I saw the match I thought marriner was right up Liverpool's arse. Possession 49-51.

City 3 QPR 12 - congratulations mister foy. Barring mishaps of alf grey proportions, you are September's "Tokyo Blue's Biased Cunt of the Month". Possession 54-46.

City 12 Stoke 12 - an interesting stat, I think. Possession 54-46.

These stats were taken from match reports on the BBC website.

By the way. Thank you, Foggy.

[ashton287]

That stoke one actually made me laugh. 24 free kicks yet i don't recall any serious/dangerous challenges so he managed to see and stop play for 23 small incidents and Garcia's Judo throw challenge yet he was completely oblivious of the 2 handball's that led to their goal and the elbow to mario's face while the ball wasn't even in play.

Fucking ridiculous. Basically he/they stopped play as much as possible to stop us playing our of game.

[Beefymcfc]

I can give you some numbers.

Free-kicks given to each each team.

City 6 Southampton 4 - fair from Mike Dean as you would expect from the best referee in the land. Possession 64-36.

City 10 liverpool 7 - which to be honest surprises me a little because when I saw the match I thought marriner was right up Liverpool's arse. Possession 49-51.

City 3 QPR 12 - congratulations mister foy. Barring mishaps of alf grey proportions, you are September's "Tokyo Blue's Biased Cunt of the Month". Possession 54-46.

City 12 Stoke 12 - an interesting stat, I think. Possession 54-46.

These stats were taken from match reports on the BBC website.

By the way. Thank you, Foggy.

The stats from the Guardian stated that possession was 66-34% in favour of us while fouls were 13-12, Stoke having the more called against us. Whichever is right, it's good to see from your own prespective and whilst it's not so emotional charged. The nicest thing I could say about Clattenburg would be that he could be considered a 'Homer', the worst would be 'You cheating fucking cunt'.

Take your pick mate, I'd go with the latter, especially considering that not one Stoke player was booked.

Still nothing about the Mario incident? I smell a rat, and not the one on Clattenburg's head.

[Tokyo Blue]

The nicest thing I could say about Clattenburg would be that he could be considered a 'Homer', the worst would be 'You cheating fucking cunt'.

Take your pick mate, I'd go with the latter, especially considering that not one Stoke player was booked.

Still nothing about the Mario incident? I smell a rat, and not the one on Clattenburg's head.

I too would go with the latter. :-)

However. I'd still rather have shattenburg than foy or, worse still, that fucking rotund dwarf that looks like Ant London and booked over half our team in the charity shield and then cost us the League Cup semi. Can't remember his name.

It is not the first time Huth has elbowed Mario and got away with it (anyone remember the FA Cup Final?), so it does not surprise me, but just imagine how it'd be if it were the other way round.

On a side note, I am very pleased with the way Mario handled himself in the Stoke game. Very pleased indeed. He can have a couple of B&H as a reward.

[mcfc1632]

Stoke should have had twice as many fouls called against them than us - that stat shows how twatenburg indulged them - and no bookings?? - FFS!!

[Ted Hughes]

I'd love to see the refs watch the video & get an an explaination of the Stoke & QPR games in particular.

Anyone who saw the Stoke game & thinks 50/50 is a fair reflection of the actual amout of fouling which went on is either a Stoke fan, a rag, or Clattenburg. But Foy ? Once again he lives up to his rep. 3 fucking fouls against QPR in 90 mins ? Three ???

I can put up with us having say ten fouls against compared to QPR's 7 or 8 but 12 against 3 ???

The Liverpool & Southampton games are close enough (but of course the ref did help Liverpool get their 2nd goal by blowing for for a non existent handball) but how is it even possible that Clattenburg particularly Foy, see those games like that ?

You only have to see a replay of any City corner v Stoke & there is a City player being blatantly rugby tackled, right in front of Clattenburg; sometimes they have got an arm round his throat. No way can he fail to see it, he's just letting them do it.

Foy though, takes the fucking biscuit. Even in a game without incident, he still shafts us. Incredible.

[ashton287]

Problem is they never have to answer for any of this. They just do what they want and anyone in the game who makes too much noise will about their inept performances will probably be fined. Any fans are obviously biased. Any player will be booked.

They are fucking ruining our game and being payed to do it no questions asked.

[Chinners]

Any fans are obviously biased.

I reckon ever club has a fansite with a thread on these lines. Things happen but I don't believe the bias is as big (if at all) as some make out. Some shocking decisions certainly but out and out bias from the refs? ... nah

[Tokyo Blue]

Any fans are obviously biased.

I reckon ever club has a fansite with a thread on these lines. Things happen but I don't believe the bias is as big (if at all) as some make out. Some shocking decisions certainly but out and out bias from the refs? ... nah

There should logically be a roughly equal number of things going the other way if that is the case. Where are they?

[Tokyo Blue]

Still nothing about the Mario incident? I smell a rat, and not the one on Clattenburg's head.

They have charged him with violent conduct, mate. It doesn't help us in any way at all though and seeing as it was our player who was elbowed, it is somewhat missing the point.

[Chinners]

Any fans are obviously biased.

I reckon ever club has a fansite with a thread on these lines. Things happen but I don't believe the bias is as big (if at all) as some make out. Some shocking decisions certainly but out and out bias from the refs? ... nah

There should logically be a roughly equal number of things going the other way if that is the case. Where are they?

Thats it, I can't think of that many iffy decisions that have gone our way recently and only a couple last season but I'm sure if you went on other teams sites they'd be highlighting loads ... from their perspective of course, just like some do with the Rags etc.

Wilko has been charged then .... so trhat one I've noticed ;) (albeit a tad too late for our bbenefit as you say)

[Beefymcfc]

Any fans are obviously biased.

I reckon ever club has a fansite with a thread on these lines. Things happen but I don't believe the bias is as big (if at all) as some make out. Some shocking decisions certainly but out and out bias from the refs? ... nah

If anybody has the time and inclination, have a read of these, they are a real eye-opener.

[urlnp=http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/archives/23004]Manchester City – They Didn’t Win The League With Referee Assistance[/urlnp]

[urlnp=http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/archives/23002]Manchester United – A Home Advantage 3 Times The League Average[/urlnp]

Try to ignore the graphs, the write-up is good enough.