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Re: World Cup Thread

Postby zuricity » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:21 pm

You would never know it but Maureens favourite midfielder Matic is hiding somewhere on the field tonight .
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Re: World Cup Thread

Postby Beefymcfc » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:25 pm

zuricity wrote:You would never know it but Maureens favourite midfielder Matic is hiding somewhere on the field tonight .

Serbia will now have to go for it as the Swiss will take this with Costa Rica to come.

Ermmmm, that's got to be reviewed yet they give it the other way. It's as if they're using the VAR to make the final games in the group more interesting.
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Re: World Cup Thread

Postby zuricity » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:31 pm

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zuricity wrote:You would never know it but Maureens favourite midfielder Matic is hiding somewhere on the field tonight .

Serbia will now have to go for it as the Swiss will take this with Costa Rica to come.

Ermmmm, that's got to be reviewed yet they give it the other way. It's as if they're using the VAR to make the final games in the group more interesting.


Don't forget Beefy , this is our favourite German ref , he knows which side of the bread is buttered.
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Re: World Cup Thread

Postby mr_nool » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:32 pm

Can't believe that double bear hug wasn't reviewed. The biggest problem with VAR is when to employ VAR.
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Re: World Cup Thread

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:33 pm

mr_nool wrote:Can't believe that double bear hug wasn't reviewed. The biggest problem with VAR is when to employ VAR.


It's a joke. Whole VAR. It's completely random what they review. Shocking call.
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Re: World Cup Thread

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:35 pm

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they'd smash teams if they dropped neymar and played jesus and firminio up top instead


Absolutely. Good balanced team ruined by one mans personal quest to prove himself.
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Re: World Cup Thread

Postby zuricity » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:36 pm

mr_nool wrote:Can't believe that double bear hug wasn't reviewed. The biggest problem with VAR is when to employ VAR.


we only need to employ VAR if the referee thinks he needs it and that is all.
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Re: World Cup Thread

Postby mr_nool » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:43 pm

zuricity wrote:
mr_nool wrote:Can't believe that double bear hug wasn't reviewed. The biggest problem with VAR is when to employ VAR.


we only need to employ VAR if the referee thinks he needs it and that is all.


That's not how it works now, though. Just look at the penalty Sweden got against South Korea. The ref thought nothing of it but was told/ ordered to review it.

Personally I think it should be used on an appeal basis. There appeals per team per match. If it's inconclusive after review vthe ref's initial call stands.
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Re: World Cup Thread

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:49 pm

That has got to go down WC history as gayest celebration ever. Kolarov is looking somewhere and nodding approvingly.
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Re: World Cup Thread

Postby zuricity » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:52 pm

mr_nool wrote:
zuricity wrote:
mr_nool wrote:Can't believe that double bear hug wasn't reviewed. The biggest problem with VAR is when to employ VAR.


we only need to employ VAR if the referee thinks he needs it and that is all.


That's not how it works now, though. Just look at the penalty Sweden got against South Korea. The ref thought nothing of it but was told/ ordered to review it.

Personally I think it should be used on an appeal basis. There appeals per team per match. If it's inconclusive after review vthe ref's initial call stands.


i don't care how it works

It should only be used at the decision of the ref if he is not sure.
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Re: World Cup Thread

Postby mr_nool » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:56 pm

zuricity wrote:
mr_nool wrote:
zuricity wrote:
mr_nool wrote:Can't believe that double bear hug wasn't reviewed. The biggest problem with VAR is when to employ VAR.


we only need to employ VAR if the referee thinks he needs it and that is all.


That's not how it works now, though. Just look at the penalty Sweden got against South Korea. The ref thought nothing of it but was told/ ordered to review it.

Personally I think it should be used on an appeal basis. There appeals per team per match. If it's inconclusive after review vthe ref's initial call stands.


i don't care how it works

It should only be used at the decision of the ref if he is not sure.


I like the appeal idea better – like hawk eye in tennis.
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Re: World Cup Thread

Postby Hutch's Shoulder » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:01 pm

mr_nool wrote:
zuricity wrote:
mr_nool wrote:
zuricity wrote:
mr_nool wrote:Can't believe that double bear hug wasn't reviewed. The biggest problem with VAR is when to employ VAR.


we only need to employ VAR if the referee thinks he needs it and that is all.


That's not how it works now, though. Just look at the penalty Sweden got against South Korea. The ref thought nothing of it but was told/ ordered to review it.

Personally I think it should be used on an appeal basis. There appeals per team per match. If it's inconclusive after review vthe ref's initial call stands.


i don't care how it works

It should only be used at the decision of the ref if he is not sure.


I like the appeal idea better – like hawk eye in tennis.


If it was implemented in the PL only when the ref was unsure, how many reviews would Anthony Taylor request in City's favour?
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Re: World Cup Thread

Postby mr_nool » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:05 pm

Hutch's Shoulder wrote:[

If it was implemented in the PL only when the ref was unsure, how many reviews would Anthony Taylor request in City's favour?


Ex fucking actly.

Hence me promoting the appeal version.
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Re: World Cup Thread

Postby Beefymcfc » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:06 pm

I don't like an appeal system and think the VAR should be allowed to tell the ref they need to review, but only for obvious stuff, non-subjective. That allows the game to flow but calls stuff back for serious fouls, obvious offsides and clear penalty decisions.

What we are seeing now is the VAR manipulating the decision for monetary purposes, which is wrong.
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Re: World Cup Thread

Postby zuricity » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:08 pm

mr_nool wrote:
Hutch's Shoulder wrote:[

If it was implemented in the PL only when the ref was unsure, how many reviews would Anthony Taylor request in City's favour?


Ex fucking actly.

Hence me promoting the appeal version.

when we are winning , we would then have video evidence that Taylor is bent . Although , i suppose we have already seen that he is bent
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Re: World Cup Thread

Postby mr_nool » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:09 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:I don't like an appeal system and think the VAR should be allowed to tell the ref they need to review, but only for obvious stuff, non-subjective. That allows the game to flow but calls stuff back for serious fouls, obvious offsides and clear penalty decisions.

What we are seeing now is the VAR manipulating the decision for monetary purposes, which is wrong.


But unless the two teams competing are in charge of what's being reviewed, the calls will either be arbitrary or following an agenda.
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Re: World Cup Thread

Postby Beefymcfc » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:38 pm

mr_nool wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:I don't like an appeal system and think the VAR should be allowed to tell the ref they need to review, but only for obvious stuff, non-subjective. That allows the game to flow but calls stuff back for serious fouls, obvious offsides and clear penalty decisions.

What we are seeing now is the VAR manipulating the decision for monetary purposes, which is wrong.


But unless the two teams competing are in charge of what's being reviewed, the calls will either be arbitrary or following an agenda.

Even if we do call it, it will still be arbitrary or following an agenda.

My concern with it would be that it is used recklessly, to break up play or to waste time. If we can see what is clear then why can't others?
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Re: World Cup Thread

Postby zuricity » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:52 pm

Except for the first day / game . Has a day gone by without some City player or recent ex player interest ?
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Re: World Cup Thread

Postby Beefymcfc » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:55 pm

zuricity wrote:Except for the first day / game . Has a day gone by without some City player or recent ex player interest ?

Having the most players there, we're doing well. You said it's shit though so your thoughts don't count ;-)

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Re: World Cup Thread

Postby zuricity » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:05 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
zuricity wrote:Except for the first day / game . Has a day gone by without some City player or recent ex player interest ?

Having the most players there, we're doing well. You said it's shit though so your thoughts don't count ;-)

Pity Sane isn't there, the kraut munching twats!


Tut tut Beefy .

It is still shit , but it's great seeing the City players and how well they do in a different setup . The picture of Kun last night on the bench was great , summed up how bad it has got for the Argentine.
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