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Re: Subinho

Postby bobadji » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:00 pm

For the first time in a good while, I'm completly agreeing with NQDP here. Who cares if he's not celebrating like mad? He's probobly gutted it's not him. Needs to sort on the pitch though.
p.s Subinho is a good name, well in.
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Re: Subinho

Postby london blue 2 » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:00 pm

Rag_hater wrote:And THAT is his fucking problem right now. His attitude on pitch BETTER change if supporters aren't happy with the way he is doing.


Argh diddums you dont like his attitude.Unless you start paying 161 grand a week mate you and all your whinging aint gonna change it.So you best get used to it.
Oh and I'm a supporter and I find fuckall wrong with his attitude.[/quote]

you love him a bit too much mate, chill out.
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Re: Subinho

Postby Rag_hater » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:01 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:All Robbie haters should get used to the fact he aint going nowhere.
You might get him of the bench with your whinging and whinning but out of the club.No chance.
Do you really think the Sheikh is gonna give him away.
So you better get used to his "attitude" cos its here to stay.Another 3 years.


That's simply not the case at all.

If his attitude and performances stay the same, he will be sold at a loss and have to go somewhere for less money.

Because he'd never stay in the prime of his career purely for the money....... would he?


Sell him at a loss is the only way.And your talking about 10's of millions of pounds.
His attitude is not gonna change cos you want it too.
And for 160 grand a week I think he might be hard to get rid off or very expensive.
Hahahahahahaha



No, loaning him out & getting him off the wage bill is a distinct possibility, then selling him for a smaller fee in 2 years, as is swapping him for players who our manager thinks would be more valuable to us, from a league in which Robinho would find it easier to play. I hope that neither of those scenarios happens because I still think he could succeed with us but I don't think Mancini will have the kind of patience with him that Hughes had & why should he if Robinho doesn't perform?


Whoever takes him on loan would have to pay his wages, so for 160 grand a week who is queing upto do that.Unless its like Jo (apparently) and we still pay his wages.
And selling for a smaller transfer fee would still involve making a loss after we have been paying him for 2 years.
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Re: Subinho

Postby london blue 2 » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:04 pm

london blue 2 wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:
Argh diddums you dont like his attitude.Unless you start paying 161 grand a week mate you and all your whinging aint gonna change it.So you best get used to it.
Oh and I'm a supporter and I find fuckall wrong with his attitude.


you love him a bit too much mate, chill out.
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Re: Subinho

Postby ant london » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:05 pm

Seriously though Ragatoni, I don't think there are many (if hardly any at all) who are Robinho haters. I certainly am not. I think he is outrageously talented and I love having him here at City. He just needs to up his game and prove his worth this season....in all respects.

You're behaving like a guy with an unfaithful girlfriend who treats you like shit....defending her behaviour and not even considering dumping her as you're so madly in love.
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Re: Subinho

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:05 pm

Rag_hater wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:All Robbie haters should get used to the fact he aint going nowhere.
You might get him of the bench with your whinging and whinning but out of the club.No chance.
Do you really think the Sheikh is gonna give him away.
So you better get used to his "attitude" cos its here to stay.Another 3 years.


That's simply not the case at all.

If his attitude and performances stay the same, he will be sold at a loss and have to go somewhere for less money.

Because he'd never stay in the prime of his career purely for the money....... would he?


Sell him at a loss is the only way.And your talking about 10's of millions of pounds.
His attitude is not gonna change cos you want it too.
And for 160 grand a week I think he might be hard to get rid off or very expensive.
Hahahahahahaha



No, loaning him out & getting him off the wage bill is a distinct possibility, then selling him for a smaller fee in 2 years, as is swapping him for players who our manager thinks would be more valuable to us, from a league in which Robinho would find it easier to play. I hope that neither of those scenarios happens because I still think he could succeed with us but I don't think Mancini will have the kind of patience with him that Hughes had & why should he if Robinho doesn't perform?


Whoever takes him on loan would have to pay his wages, so for 160 grand a week who is queing upto do that.Unless its like Jo (apparently) and we still pay his wages.
And selling for a smaller transfer fee would still involve making a loss after we have been paying him for 2 years.


Indeed it would but seeing as our owners recently bailed out Dubai, I don't think it'll hurt them that much. If he doesn't buck up very soon he's history mate, sad as that would be. He'll be asking to go himself if he's not playing regularly anyhow.
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Re: Subinho

Postby Fish111 » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:09 pm

I personally wouldn't even of had him on the bench last night for that game. He's just not up to the physicallity of the English Premier League and against our nearest rivals it was going to be even more intense. I would have had someone else on the bench to give Mancini more options. His reaction to the arrival of Tevez back to the bench was typical of the man really, it just showed that he doesn't want to be here, get involved in anything we do and be part of where we are going. He is definately engineering a move in the summer imo by showing the sort of attitude that will get you sold by the manager.
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Re: Subinho

Postby ronk » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:13 pm

Fish111 wrote:I personally wouldn't even of had him on the bench last night for that game. He's just not up to the physicallity of the English Premier League and against our nearest rivals it was going to be even more intense. I would have had someone else on the bench to give Mancini more options. His reaction to the arrival of Tevez back to the bench was typical of the man really, it just showed that he doesn't want to be here, get involved in anything we do and be part of where we are going. He is definately engineering a move in the summer imo by showing the sort of attitude that will get you sold by the manager.


Someone else!? FFS. If you're going to make such a bold selection you could at least say who you'd have ahead of him.

His reaction was a nothing incident, played up by the commentators to engineer another example of us spending excessive amounts of money and to imply that the squad isn't happy. Personally, I thought he looked like he was focused on the game and taking it seriously.
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Re: Subinho

Postby Mase » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:16 pm

How come no one kicked off so much when Bellers did exactly the same to Robson when he was substituted the other game??
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Re: Subinho

Postby Fish111 » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:20 pm

ronk wrote:His reaction was a nothing incident, played up by the commentators to engineer another example of us spending excessive amounts of money and to imply that the squad isn't happy. Personally, I thought he looked like he was focused on the game and taking it seriously.


You need to get your eyes tested then. You could look at last nights incident on its own as a nothing incident but in the greater context of how he has been playing for a long while it was clearly another example of his shit attitude. I haven't 'just' decided to dislike Robinho, i have stated on many occasions and quite a while ago that i could see his heart isn't really at City and that i thought he realised he had made a mistake by signing for us.
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Re: Subinho

Postby Original Dub » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:22 pm

Rag_hater wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:All Robbie haters should get used to the fact he aint going nowhere.
You might get him of the bench with your whinging and whinning but out of the club.No chance.
Do you really think the Sheikh is gonna give him away.
So you better get used to his "attitude" cos its here to stay.Another 3 years.


That's simply not the case at all.

If his attitude and performances stay the same, he will be sold at a loss and have to go somewhere for less money.

Because he'd never stay in the prime of his career purely for the money....... would he?


Sell him at a loss is the only way.And your talking about 10's of millions of pounds.
His attitude is not gonna change cos you want it too.
And for 160 grand a week I think he might be hard to get rid off or very expensive.
Hahahahahahaha


This is a post that definitely could have been made by a united fan.

"Hahahahahahaha"????!!! Why are you ridiculing our predicament when you're supposed to be a city fan?

And the only reason he will be sold at a loss of "10s of millions of pounds" would be because since he came to us his performances have overall been well below par and his value has plummited as a result.

So which is it?
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Re: Subinho

Postby Beeks » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:22 pm

MaseCTID wrote:How come no one kicked off so much when Bellers did exactly the same to Robson when he was substituted the other game??


Probably because Bellers cares about wearing the shirt and gives his all every time he pulls it on
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Re: Subinho

Postby blues-clues » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:25 pm

Rag_hater wrote:
blues-clues wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:All Robbie haters should get used to the fact he aint going nowhere.
You might get him of the bench with your whinging and whinning but out of the club.No chance.
Do you really think the Sheikh is gonna give him away.
So you better get used to his "attitude" cos its here to stay.Another 3 years.


Are you RIG in disguise? Never seen so many factual errors in one post.

1. There are no Robinho haters on here. There are plenty that question his commitment but we all love City and everyone here wants to see him do what we know he can.
2. None of us are under any illusions that what we write on here will determine team selection or club policies. We are just here expressing our opinions and discussing our team and the game they play.
3. Nobody thinks the Sheikh will give him away. FFS why would he. But if someone else wants to take on his wages and we have the chance to sell then maybe he will cut his losses. More likely in the event that City decide they don't want him any more is that a "face saving" deal will be done, a loan or part exchange type of deal. But give him away nobody has suggested that so why even mention it?


No Robbie haters,dream on this thread was started in order diss him.
There's loads of people on here want to get rid of him reckon he is one of the worst on the team.The sooner he's gone the better.
Youre just wriggling cos once you examine the facts the club is between a rock and hard place when it comes to Robbie.



Actually this thread was started by me. Not to disrespect Robinho but to comment on the disrespect I thought he showed to the team. Express your opinion by all means but don't state as fact something about which you know nothing.

Do you just make it up as you go along?

I looked through a few Robbie threads and couldn't find any reference to anyone saying he was the worst at the club so come on lets have the evidence. Are you full of shit or can you point me to "loads" on the Mancityfans forum thinks he is the worst on the squad? I tell you what you will find and that is plenty of people who criticise his performances and his attitude and that is why football fora exist.
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Re: Subinho

Postby Rag_hater » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:25 pm

ant london wrote:Seriously though Ragatoni, I don't think there are many (if hardly any at all) who are Robinho haters. I certainly am not. I think he is outrageously talented and I love having him here at City. He just needs to up his game and prove his worth this season....in all respects.

You're behaving like a guy with an unfaithful girlfriend who treats you like shit....defending her behaviour and not even considering dumping her as you're so madly in love.


The upping his game bit is the part I dont agree with.I dont think he ever wants to be on the losing side and he makes plenty of effort.The way he plays his game may not be to some's liking but for me what I see I'm happy with.Some games like everybody are better than others.I dont expect him to turn every game.Nobody ever does.If people think what he gives to the team isnt enough and we can do better then he shouldn't be playing for us but its not how it seems to me.However it seems to be the view that is portrayed by a growing number of fans without giving the lad a fair chance
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Re: Subinho

Postby Original Dub » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:29 pm

Original Dub wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:All Robbie haters should get used to the fact he aint going nowhere.
You might get him of the bench with your whinging and whinning but out of the club.No chance.
Do you really think the Sheikh is gonna give him away.
So you better get used to his "attitude" cos its here to stay.Another 3 years.


That's simply not the case at all.

If his attitude and performances stay the same, he will be sold at a loss and have to go somewhere for less money.

Because he'd never stay in the prime of his career purely for the money....... would he?


Sell him at a loss is the only way.And your talking about 10's of millions of pounds.
His attitude is not gonna change cos you want it too.
And for 160 grand a week I think he might be hard to get rid off or very expensive.
Hahahahahahaha


This is a post that definitely could have been made by a U***d fan.

"Hahahahahahaha"????!!! Why are you ridiculing our predicament when you're supposed to be a city fan?

And the only reason he will be sold at a loss of "10s of millions of pounds" would be because since he came to us his performances have overall been well below par and his value has plummited as a result.

So which is it?


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Re: Subinho

Postby Mase » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:33 pm

IanBishopsHaircut wrote:
MaseCTID wrote:How come no one kicked off so much when Bellers did exactly the same to Robson when he was substituted the other game??


Probably because Bellers cares about wearing the shirt and gives his all every time he pulls it on


And because Robbie is pissed off because he wants to play, that shows he doesn't??
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Re: Subinho

Postby Kladze » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:34 pm

I'm one of Robinho's bigger critics - have been moaning about him longer than most of you - but even I am surprised to see a thread complaining about his attitude (or lack of it) when he's not even on the pitch.

It's what he does on the field of play that matters.

I do think it reveals he's on his way out of the club though ( this window or the summer), sad to say.

btw : 'Subinho' ? Great title, shite content.
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Re: Subinho

Postby Wooders » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:34 pm

MaseCTID wrote:
IanBishopsHaircut wrote:
MaseCTID wrote:How come no one kicked off so much when Bellers did exactly the same to Robson when he was substituted the other game??


Probably because Bellers cares about wearing the shirt and gives his all every time he pulls it on


And because Robbie is pissed off because he wants to play, that shows he doesn't??


Because bellers give 100% most games and is a contender for our player of the season so far - why else?
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Re: Subinho

Postby Mase » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:38 pm

Wooders wrote:
MaseCTID wrote:
IanBishopsHaircut wrote:
MaseCTID wrote:How come no one kicked off so much when Bellers did exactly the same to Robson when he was substituted the other game??


Probably because Bellers cares about wearing the shirt and gives his all every time he pulls it on


And because Robbie is pissed off because he wants to play, that shows he doesn't??


Because bellers give 100% most games and is a contender for our player of the season so far - why else?


So we're saying if Bellers came off threw his shirt on the floor, walked down the tunnel that would be okay because he still gives 100%?? Where's it going to end?
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Re: Subinho

Postby Rag_hater » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:38 pm

Original Dub wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:All Robbie haters should get used to the fact he aint going nowhere.
You might get him of the bench with your whinging and whinning but out of the club.No chance.
Do you really think the Sheikh is gonna give him away.
So you better get used to his "attitude" cos its here to stay.Another 3 years.


That's simply not the case at all.

If his attitude and performances stay the same, he will be sold at a loss and have to go somewhere for less money.

Because he'd never stay in the prime of his career purely for the money....... would he?


Sell him at a loss is the only way.And your talking about 10's of millions of pounds.
His attitude is not gonna change cos you want it too.
And for 160 grand a week I think he might be hard to get rid off or very expensive.
Hahahahahahaha


This is a post that definitely could have been made by a U***d fan.

"Hahahahahahaha"????!!! Why are you ridiculing our predicament when you're supposed to be a city fan?

And the only reason he will be sold at a loss of "10s of millions of pounds" would be because since he came to us his performances have overall been well below par and his value has plummited as a result.

So which is it?

Is that the best you ca do.You start questioning peoples loyalty when confronted with the truth.
I tell you the facts of the matter and how they favour my argument.
And I've said before that IMO his performances have not been below par so that particular bandwagon is not one I'm jumping on.
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