Mancini's City - is that paint dry yet?

[zuricity]

It's all a cunning plan , as baldrick would say . to fool the scousers next week.....

don't worry. we're joint fourth and as of tonight still in the FA Cup.

We know that February is our bad month. we're just waiting for the ides of March.

[gillie]

It's all a cunning plan , as baldrick would say . to fool the scousers next week.....

don't worry. we're joint fourth and as of tonight still in the FA Cup.

We know that February is our bad month. we're just waiting for the ides of March.

We know that February is our bad month. we're just waiting for the ides of March.

Is this when we get killed off?.

[Beefymcfc]

Am I the only one who thought we weren't that bad in the last 15/20 minutes? Stoke barely left their half in those 20 minutes, granted we didn't have too many great chances to score but we were putting pressure on them, and we actually almost scored with that Barry header, and Santa had a great chance to volley it in after the Vieira pass, shame he didn't do it as well as Ade against Bolton.

This is to say, we played poorly, and let them back in it when we could have killed them off, but imho the last 15/20 minutes weren't so dire. Which frustrates me even more for having to play the replay at theirs, tbh.

A fair point. But I think it co-incided with Vieira coming on. More awareness, more experience, more know how, more ability to boss the central midfield area and turn defence into attack.....all the things De Jong should be doing.

And all the things Vieira didn't!

But we came back into the game after Vieira came on. And it was mostly because we got back control of the midfield. Why can't you see the link between the two? And I remind you that De Jong was up against a former City reject called Glen Whelan who has been playing coca-cola football for the last few seasons...

Right, I see now! How silly am I to not see the reason why.

Do you honestly believe that Vieira had a real impact on the game? I am watching it now as I recorded it and have seen Patrick do exactly feck all apart from give the ball away and not be able to chase it down. Strangely, exactly how I seen it the first time.

I'll give you a shout if anything changes.

[Longball]

this is what u get when u employ an italian manager- dull- overfilled midfields-indolence-and a right to beat the likes of Stoke-wakeup call guys

[gillie]

this is what u get when u employ an italian manager- dull- overfilled midfields-indolence-and a right to beat the likes of Stoke-wakeup call guys

Go back a page its exactly what i said but not as eloquently.

[BlueMoonAwoken]

I really dont know, i liked mark hughes and i liked mancini but he just seems as though he is just as if not more clueless than hughes. At least hughes would of thrown on some pace when stoke got the equaliser , Taking ireland off for Vieira ??? WTF!!!!

So we had a midfield of Vieira , de jong , and barry ? what the fuck is mancini"s game here?

We are the home team maybe with only 28k there it might not of felt it but for fuck sake!

We will beat liverpool as these money grabbing cunts who only care about the money and the flashy lifestyle will turn it on against one of the big four.

Mancini to me in recent weeks is like the new pearce with better players.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

But Hughes used to do the same! play two DMs..I remeberr agaisnt Newcastle when they had a player sent off in the first 10 mins, Hughes still kept two DM's on the field and it ended up being a draw...

There have been alot of changes at City and the players have to adapt to change, coupled with Mancini having to test the water.. It seems the main lot that are already getting on Mancinis back are the ones that loved Hughes!! Maybe its an attempt to still try and save face!! Listening to some, its like they want us to do shit just so they can moan about Mancini and try and convince people Hughes was the man for the job..


Remember..It takes time ;-)

What total drivel !!

I was one of many who were labelled 'Hughes lovers' (aka "Give him enough time and he'll get the job done") but we've moved on and I , for one, am not calling for Mancini's head yet, though I'm already cheesed off with this interminably tedious tripe we're being served up.

If and when I do change my mind and want Mancini out - which in any event won't be for quite some time - it certainly won't be through any nostalgia for the tafia's time here, it will be because I think it's right for the club I've supported for 40 plus years.

Well said - I have been referred to as a 'Hughes lover' in this thread by NDQP - another thicko comment because I never have been - just someone that wanted stability and balanced discussion on this board (but of course for some of that crowd if you did not agree with them - you were labelled) - like you I am a 40+ years fan and on the Mancini poll I am one of the don't knows - because I want stability - it is always the extremists that have to pigeon hole people

You and couple of other people who only came here after Hughes was appointed are only capable of talking about two things, me and Hughes. So yeah, you do seem to be Hughes lover big time and/or suffer from obsessive compulsive disorder.

I have to say that you have indeed been able to ruin this experience for me somewhat. Site that I have enjoyed for best part of decade.

[gillie]

You and couple of other people who only came here after Hughes was appointed are only capable of talking about two things, me and Hughes. So yeah, you do seem to be Hughes lover big time and/or suffer from obsessive compulsive disorder.

I have to say that you have indeed been able to ruin this experience for me somewhat. Site that I have enjoyed for best part of decade.
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Antti get another hobby horse mate please its not about Hughes anymore its about City and we are not going forwards we are going backwards.

[BlueMoonAwoken]

I know this thread is a dig at mancini's style of play but i think he has the same issues mark hughes had. Under Mark hughes we played open football because he knew thats what the fans loved and knew the owners wanted city to be the english barcelona. He was pressured into playing robinho maybe not directly but still. Mancini comes in and is told city are leaking too many silly goals and we need to become more solid so what does he do plays 3 defensive mids. And if he could play 11 defenders im sure he would.

I really think its about giving what the owners are saying rather than being able to be free in expressing your management qualities without pressure from people at the top.

Also i noticed fabio capello sat next to cook.

[Beefymcfc]

You and couple of other people who only came here after Hughes was appointed are only capable of talking about two things, me and Hughes. So yeah, you do seem to be Hughes lover big time and/or suffer from obsessive compulsive disorder.

I have to say that you have indeed been able to ruin this experience for me somewhat. Site that I have enjoyed for best part of decade.

Low mate, very low!

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

You and couple of other people who only came here after Hughes was appointed are only capable of talking about two things, me and Hughes. So yeah, you do seem to be Hughes lover big time and/or suffer from obsessive compulsive disorder.

I have to say that you have indeed been able to ruin this experience for me somewhat. Site that I have enjoyed for best part of decade.

Low mate, very low!

I've send him a PM and try to sort this out through that way. That said, from the bottom of my heart, he is the most annoying and repulsive poster I have ever seen in this site. That includes Andy Davies, the weird Greek fellers calling people racists and many many more "characters".

[pears12]

Sure the football is not exciting but seriously the major problem with previous bosses was we defending in a shamble.. I think Mancini getting the problem area right first then moving onto the next step.

Also about just saying oh he an Italian manager therefore we are boring, Chelsea have an Italian boss and they are top of the league in cl 2nd round and still in the cup and play some of the best football of any team in the epl. Also England have an Italian manager and they are getting best results for quite a while. Also we were losing games to teams of stokes ilk last year and lets not forget 7 draws in a row against teams we should of been beating

[BlueMoonAwoken]

Sure the football is not exciting but seriously the major problem with previous bosses was we defending in a shamble.. I think Mancini getting the problem area right first then moving onto the next step.

Also about just saying oh he an Italian manager therefore we are boring, Chelsea have an Italian boss and they are top of the league in cl 2nd round and still in the cup and play some of the best football of any team in the epl. Also England have an Italian manager and they are getting best results for quite a while. Also we were losing games to teams of stokes ilk last year and lets not forget 7 draws in a row against teams we should of been beating

He hasnt got much time if the owners want top 4, the thing im worried about if we dont make the top 4 this season. Will the owners still think city is a good buisness venture? if platini has his way about banning debt and teams that dont spend what the earn etc.

Yeah i can see he is trying to sort the defence out but playing 3 defensive mids is a joke beyond belief. Pearce turned the fans away playing boring football, mancini will do the same if he aint careful. And we was beginning to get the fans back when mark hughes was playing attacking football. I was pissed at hughes for the 7 draws and the crazy defending at times but if you dont score in the premier league you dont win games. You need to score more than 2 against any team in the premier league as they are all capable of getting a goal.

[MaineRoadMemories]

I'm starting to get flashbacks to Pearce's reign. It's something I thought I'd erased from my brain forever. Sadly not

[gillie]

I'm starting to get flashbacks to Pearce's reign. It's something I thought I'd erased from my brain forever. Sadly not

It really is uninspiring is'nt it MRM.

[BobKowalski]

Sure the football is not exciting but seriously the major problem with previous bosses was we defending in a shamble.. I think Mancini getting the problem area right first then moving onto the next step.

Also about just saying oh he an Italian manager therefore we are boring, Chelsea have an Italian boss and they are top of the league in cl 2nd round and still in the cup and play some of the best football of any team in the epl. Also England have an Italian manager and they are getting best results for quite a while. Also we were losing games to teams of stokes ilk last year and lets not forget 7 draws in a row against teams we should of been beating

Ancelotti and Mancini like to play the same way as well with the diamond formation that can adapt to 433 or 442 depending on the circumstance (I think Mourinho does the same although I could be wrong here).

The Italian bit is just lazy but lets face it unless Mancini wins every game in style he is going to get crucified on here so lets cut to the big question as I was working today and had to record the match - do I watch it if it was as allegedly dull as people are claiming or shall I make my own mind up?

Yeah ok I'll watch it and see what the fuss is all about :)

[Im_Spartacus]

It has taken me 4 hours, a row with my mrs, and becoming single to get to this point of view

Great start, first 15 mins was really encouraging. Beyond that, god knows. What happened?

Rest of game, it seemed that Mancini was trying with each substitution to stop us winning the game. I am all for counter attack, but after he had taken Ireland and Petrov off, apparently city let stoke attack, but there was not a player on the pitch who could have put in a full on counter attack - aside from SWP who was fucked.

Surely if your gonna play defensive you play to counter attack? Maybe i'm wrong

BRING ON THE SUMMER

[gillie]

Sure the football is not exciting but seriously the major problem with previous bosses was we defending in a shamble.. I think Mancini getting the problem area right first then moving onto the next step.

Also about just saying oh he an Italian manager therefore we are boring, Chelsea have an Italian boss and they are top of the league in cl 2nd round and still in the cup and play some of the best football of any team in the epl. Also England have an Italian manager and they are getting best results for quite a while. Also we were losing games to teams of stokes ilk last year and lets not forget 7 draws in a row against teams we should of been beating

Ancelotti and Mancini like to play the same way as well with the diamond formation that can adapt to 433 or 442 depending on the circumstance (I think Mourinho does the same although I could be wrong here).

The Italian bit is just lazy but lets face it unless Mancini wins every game in style he is going to get crucified on here so lets cut to the big question as I was working today and had to record the match - do I watch it if it was as allegedly dull as people are claiming or shall I make my own mind up?

Yeah ok I'll watch it and see what the fuss is all about :)

Please Bob let us know what you think afterwards.

[Im_Spartacus]

Sure the football is not exciting but seriously the major problem with previous bosses was we defending in a shamble.. I think Mancini getting the problem area right first then moving onto the next step.

Also about just saying oh he an Italian manager therefore we are boring, Chelsea have an Italian boss and they are top of the league in cl 2nd round and still in the cup and play some of the best football of any team in the epl. Also England have an Italian manager and they are getting best results for quite a while. Also we were losing games to teams of stokes ilk last year and lets not forget 7 draws in a row against teams we should of been beating

Ancelotti and Mancini like to play the same way as well with the diamond formation that can adapt to 433 or 442 depending on the circumstance (I think Mourinho does the same although I could be wrong here).

The Italian bit is just lazy but lets face it unless Mancini wins every game in style he is going to get crucified on here so lets cut to the big question as I was working today and had to record the match - do I watch it if it was as allegedly dull as people are claiming or shall I make my own mind up?

Yeah ok I'll watch it and see what the fuss is all about :)

Sorry but no, dont bother after the 1st 10. He isntn going to get crucified on here just for the style, people have gotten fucked off because the team cant do the basics. If its a turd, lets call it a turd, its shit. And it was bad, very bad

[getdressedmctavish]

Does anyone find themselves pining for King Kev now that we've got some decent players. You know, feck all this holding midfielders bollocks (Christ, Nigel was awful today,lol), just blow the bugle and feckin charge.