If we don't finish in the top 4.

[Original Dub]

i am getting a real strong sense that a lot of people are starting to bottle it, worried as fucl, clammed up and looking at the half empty glass..

please tell me im wrong

My concerns about our credentials under Mancini against the top teams are valid. That doesn't mean I'm not behind the team and its kind of getting a bit tedious that everytime anyone voices concern they're shot down. Its not gonna affect the team, its an OPINION.

Not directed at you solely mate..

[Slim]

i am getting a real strong sense that a lot of people are starting to bottle it, worried as fucl, clammed up and looking at the half empty glass..

please tell me im wrong

My concerns about our credentials under Mancini against the top teams are valid. That doesn't mean I'm not behind the team and its kind of getting a bit tedious that everytime anyone voices concern they're shot down. Its not gonna affect the team, its an OPINION.

Not directed at you solely mate..

Oh fuck up you ball-less pussy.

[lets all have a disco]

i am getting a real strong sense that a lot of people are starting to bottle it, worried as fucl, clammed up and looking at the half empty glass..

please tell me im wrong

My concerns about our credentials under Mancini against the top teams are valid. That doesn't mean I'm not behind the team and its kind of getting a bit tedious that everytime anyone voices concern they're shot down. Its not gonna affect the team, its an OPINION.

Not directed at you solely mate..

THIS.

[Original Dub]

i am getting a real strong sense that a lot of people are starting to bottle it, worried as fucl, clammed up and looking at the half empty glass..

please tell me im wrong

My concerns about our credentials under Mancini against the top teams are valid. That doesn't mean I'm not behind the team and its kind of getting a bit tedious that everytime anyone voices concern they're shot down. Its not gonna affect the team, its an OPINION.

Not directed at you solely mate..

Oh fuck up you ball-less pussy.

You shut up you fucking whinging cunt, I had to listen to you for the entirety of last season and you're gonna fucking listen to me now. Anyone else giving out about folk whinging, but not fucking you dipshit.


COME ON CITY


knob

[carl_feedthegoat]

Agreed largely with every post in this thread until CARL opened his big GOB. Mourinho is in the process of taking the team Mancini built from 1st to 2nd. Yes he always does ok for 18 months or so when handed a ready built team but why on earth should we go for such a short term fix when we know we have a manager who has a record of building a team and a record of bringing through Academy players?

I dont remember the previous coach of Porto having them on the verge of UEFA Cup or CL glory.

I dont remember Chelsea being on the cusp of title. I do remember them being a distant second to Arsenal.

I dont remember Mancini getting passed the last 16 of the CL or beating any English club on the way to there eventual early knock out.

Mourinho has taken Inter to the next level and beyond and Mancini has little or nothing to do with it.

Like most I wouldnt sack Mancini at the end of the season. Unless it's Mourinho that incoming. If Mancini keeps his job Mourinho will either be the next Real manager this season, or the U***d Manager the next season.

How close to any of those jobs would Mancini get if he suddenly become free at the end of this year?

You saved me from replying to HIM.

[Slim]

i am getting a real strong sense that a lot of people are starting to bottle it, worried as fucl, clammed up and looking at the half empty glass..

please tell me im wrong

My concerns about our credentials under Mancini against the top teams are valid. That doesn't mean I'm not behind the team and its kind of getting a bit tedious that everytime anyone voices concern they're shot down. Its not gonna affect the team, its an OPINION.

Not directed at you solely mate..

Oh fuck up you ball-less pussy.

You shut up you fucking whinging cunt, I had to listen to you for the entirety of last season and you're gonna fucking listen to me now. Anyone else giving out about folk whinging, but not fucking you dipshit.


COME ON CITY


knob

Firstly cunt, I didn't even voice a single concern until January and that was that IF we were going to get rid of Hughes then we should have before the window opened, we didn't and he stayed, right move at the time, wrong move overall. Then the only time you heard from me was to point out your fucking hypocrisy when you claimed you would want Hughes removed if we didn't finish 6th or win the Europa. We didn't and you were still the leader of the cheersquad, I guess being the top of the pyramid in your pleated skirt and pom pom socks was too much of a lure.

This season what the fuck have I said? I have avoided the whole fucking thing until he was replaced and even then I thought it was the wrong time, but I will hardly have you now undermining what is the best opportunity to do something at this end of the table that we have EVER had with your attitude that we can't beat Arse, Spurs and Villa.

Well FUCK THAT, you have had your fucking say over and over again with your passive aggressive shit against Mancini. You fucking WANT us to fail because then you can pull out your shit about "mancini was hired to get us 4th, he didn't get it so sacking hughes was wrong". You are barely behind the club, barely behind the players and not one fucking inch behind the current manager. So for the love of god and if you ever gave a shit about this club, FUCKING SHUT UP.

[Original Dub]

i am getting a real strong sense that a lot of people are starting to bottle it, worried as fucl, clammed up and looking at the half empty glass..

please tell me im wrong

My concerns about our credentials under Mancini against the top teams are valid. That doesn't mean I'm not behind the team and its kind of getting a bit tedious that everytime anyone voices concern they're shot down. Its not gonna affect the team, its an OPINION.

Not directed at you solely mate..

Oh fuck up you ball-less pussy.

You shut up you fucking whinging cunt, I had to listen to you for the entirety of last season and you're gonna fucking listen to me now. Anyone else giving out about folk whinging, but not fucking you dipshit.


COME ON CITY


knob

Firstly cunt, I didn't even voice a single concern until January and that was that IF we were going to get rid of Hughes then we should have before the window opened, we didn't and he stayed, right move at the time, wrong move overall. Then the only time you heard from me was to point out your fucking hypocrisy when you claimed you would want Hughes removed if we didn't finish 6th or win the Europa. We didn't and you were still the leader of the cheersquad, I guess being the top of the pyramid in your pleated skirt and pom pom socks was too much of a lure.

This season what the fuck have I said? I have avoided the whole fucking thing until he was replaced and even then I thought it was the wrong time, but I will hardly have you now undermining what is the best opportunity to do something at this end of the table that we have EVER had with your attitude that we can't beat Arse, Spurs and Villa.

Well FUCK THAT, you have had your fucking say over and over again with your passive aggressive shit against Mancini. You fucking WANT us to fail because then you can pull out your shit about "mancini was hired to get us 4th, he didn't get it so sacking hughes was wrong". You are barely behind the club, barely behind the players and not one fucking inch behind the current manager. So for the love of god and if you ever gave a shit about this club, FUCKING SHUT UP.

Hook, line and sinker.

A simple Fuck off would have done sweetheart.

[brite blu sky]

i am getting a real strong sense that a lot of people are starting to bottle it, worried as fucl, clammed up and looking at the half empty glass..

please tell me im wrong

My concerns about our credentials under Mancini against the top teams are valid. That doesn't mean I'm not behind the team and its kind of getting a bit tedious that everytime anyone voices concern they're shot down. Its not gonna affect the team, its an OPINION.

Not directed at you solely mate..

well for the record OD i think your thoughts and analysis are some of the best ones and perfectly valid. Forum to chat and all that. In many ways what people express is probably going through a lot of peoples minds anyway, even if they wouldn't say it outloud.

So in relation to your concerns over our record against top sides with Bob at the helm, im thinking that a lot of the games were pretty close tbh. Pool, Chelsea, Rags.
My own opinion is that none of us as yet know, as he has only had half a season and we need to take it as it comes. The next 3 as they are all top 6/7 will provide some answers one way or another.
i do get a feeling that the loss to the fuclin scum has set a lot of people on the doom track. im a Manc and i understand that, but i have never let the c*nts ruin my approach to city as i dont want to credit them with that in any way shape or form, i just let it go there and then. shit happens.

as for the rest of the top 6/7 teams i really dont see why we should be frightened or worried about playing them, home or away. Yes we have to turn up on the day, but that applies to virtually all Prem games or your fucled ( Hull ).

Some people will take results only.. we had thread on that recently, some people look deeper into performances or the mentality of the team.. some people who have been around city for a long time or even a VERY long time like john1868 can take a well balanced long term view that now sees us scrapping it out for a top 4 place.

Some fans cannot take the disappointment, so they guard against it by not holding out any hope ( at least in public ), some will just be out and out optimistic, iether cos they can take a knock on the chin or they perhaps have a life experience that dictates people respond better to optimism than negativity. A lot of people are probs somewhere in between.

We could get held off by Arsenal and lose to a RVP late volley. We could get outplayed by Spurs, held to a draw by Villa and end up going to WHU totally out of it and get panned by a team fighting like hell to stay in the premiership.
If it genuinely makes someone's day to day life happier thinking like that then way to go.
Ultimately we can only try and get a sense for what and how we see things and interpret that to get a feeling of positive or negative.
Personally i have had a good sense about the Arsenal game for some time as is documented on this forum. The Spurs game is a different matter all together, and in fact it is the one that concerns me most.. i can't get beyond thinking that the two teams will cancel each other out and it will be a draw.. similar in many ways to the Pool game at coms.

As to your concerns OD, i just think that we have the players to do it, it all comes down to if we get it right on the day. Its football so any sh*t can happen, so i suppose you have to say and we get the run of the ball as well.

[Original Dub]

Well that's true, some of the games we didn't win were close against the top sides.

And of course I'm optomistic about our chances, just not so much about tactics. I want the players to "do a Liverpool".

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Its been mentioned int his thread that if it weren't for the draws earlier in the season when the team were getting to know each other that we'd be "cruising to fourth".

If it weren't for losing to fucking hull and everton twice we'd have 9 extra points on the board too.

We can't keep going over this, these two men have gotten us where we are now and we have to be extremely thankful to both of course. The thing is, the change was made to achieve fourth, rightly or wrongly and no matter how some of you try to dress it up so that if we don't land there its "ok"; and no matter how some of you try to say that Mancini's definite target is fourth - you all know well the guy was brought in to achieve fourth.

I like the man and we've dismantled some shitty teams under him like I've never seen us do, but he won a very weakened league in Italy and everytime he faced a top side in europe he ultimately failed.

I hate to say it again, but everytime he faces a top 8 side here in the league, he ultimately fails.... Chelsea being the obvious exception. I want him to prove the doubters wrong, I really do, but he has SO FAR shown that we can smack shit out of the little teams who try to play football, we can get out fought by the physical teams and we are shit scared of the top teams.

With three top teams coming in the next few weeks, I'm scared of how he'll want us to play and I can't understand why some of you aren't?

That said, I watched the Liverpool players completely take over their style of play when they knew they were in with a chance of achieving a long standing goal last season. I don't care what anyone says, Benitez did not fire all his tactics out the window and tell them to start playing like Barca, they did it themselves and they DISMANTLED nearly every team they faced in style.
I'm hoping our players do the same.

If those had been draws with say Burnley and Bolton being draws as well, you'd be celebrating "four games without a loss". Still those games have given us 6 points instead of four for four draws.

THAT is why in modern football you need to go for the kill and not settle for draws.

[brite blu sky]

THAT is why in modern football you need to go for the kill and not settle for draws.

i dont think City have been guilty of that all season apart from 75mins into the derby.

also to spice the discussion up a bit, when we went out more gung ho under the previous manager and got 3 or 4 goals only to concede the same or almost concede the same on too numerous occasions. Swings and roundabouts you could say, but in reality a really really top side 'knows' when to turn it on and when to soak up pressure.
We were not learning that under the previous manager, or at least it looked like we weren't. Now it appears that we are learning that, even if it is still early days against the best teams.

i hope that we do get CL football cos i think that is where teams can learn most about themselves from the really difficult games against high quality unfamiliar teams.

[Original Dub]

Its been mentioned int his thread that if it weren't for the draws earlier in the season when the team were getting to know each other that we'd be "cruising to fourth".

If it weren't for losing to fucking hull and everton twice we'd have 9 extra points on the board too.

We can't keep going over this, these two men have gotten us where we are now and we have to be extremely thankful to both of course. The thing is, the change was made to achieve fourth, rightly or wrongly and no matter how some of you try to dress it up so that if we don't land there its "ok"; and no matter how some of you try to say that Mancini's definite target is fourth - you all know well the guy was brought in to achieve fourth.

I like the man and we've dismantled some shitty teams under him like I've never seen us do, but he won a very weakened league in Italy and everytime he faced a top side in europe he ultimately failed.

I hate to say it again, but everytime he faces a top 8 side here in the league, he ultimately fails.... Chelsea being the obvious exception. I want him to prove the doubters wrong, I really do, but he has SO FAR shown that we can smack shit out of the little teams who try to play football, we can get out fought by the physical teams and we are shit scared of the top teams.

With three top teams coming in the next few weeks, I'm scared of how he'll want us to play and I can't understand why some of you aren't?

That said, I watched the Liverpool players completely take over their style of play when they knew they were in with a chance of achieving a long standing goal last season. I don't care what anyone says, Benitez did not fire all his tactics out the window and tell them to start playing like Barca, they did it themselves and they DISMANTLED nearly every team they faced in style.
I'm hoping our players do the same.

If those had been draws with say Burnley and Bolton being draws as well, you'd be celebrating "four games without a loss". Still those games have given us 6 points instead of four for four draws.

THAT is why in modern football you need to go for the kill and not settle for draws.

I understand that chief, but I don't for one second think we ever "settled" for a draw. We were more prone to mistakes because half the fucking team were new to each other and we were a very attacking side, so some of those draws were purely individual errors.

I merely pointed out that had we won those games, we'd have 9 more points and be out of sight already, as you said about the draws... I also said that both managers have to be thanked for where we are now so there's no point in picking up on the performances of earlier. Its in our hands and we'll see how we do against the top sides, but as I've already been berated for pointing out, Mancini has only beaten one from the top 8 and whilst I'm completely behind the team I support, I think I have a right to be aprehensive

Just out of interest - are you very confident we'll secure fourth and if not, why not?

[Slim]

THAT is why in modern football you need to go for the kill and not settle for draws.

i dont think City have been guilty of that all season apart from 75mins into the derby.

also to spice the discussion up a bit, when we went out more gung ho under the previous manager and got 3 or 4 goals only to concede the same or almost concede the same on too numerous occasions. Swings and roundabouts you could say, but in reality a really really top side 'knows' when to turn it on and when to soak up pressure.
We were not learning that under the previous manager, or at least it looked like we weren't. Now it appears that we are learning that, even if it is still early days against the best teams.

i hope that we do get CL football cos i think that is where teams can learn most about themselves from the really difficult games against high quality unfamiliar teams.

Anything that happens or doesn't this season, we can easily spot the point at which we faltered.

[Original Dub]

THAT is why in modern football you need to go for the kill and not settle for draws.

i dont think City have been guilty of that all season apart from 75mins into the derby.

also to spice the discussion up a bit, when we went out more gung ho under the previous manager and got 3 or 4 goals only to concede the same or almost concede the same on too numerous occasions. Swings and roundabouts you could say, but in reality a really really top side 'knows' when to turn it on and when to soak up pressure.
We were not learning that under the previous manager, or at least it looked like we weren't. Now it appears that we are learning that, even if it is still early days against the best teams.

i hope that we do get CL football cos i think that is where teams can learn most about themselves from the really difficult games against high quality unfamiliar teams.

Anything that happens or doesn't this season, we can easily spot the point at which we faltered.

I dunno mate, in a normal season I'd say yes, but this season seems to be full of teams faltering at different points only to get back on track, from Chelsea to Villa

[brite blu sky]

we got trashed by Everton in a way that rocked this team to the boots. imo it has been a long slog back from that.

[Beefymcfc]

we got trashed by Everton in a way that rocked this team to the boots. imo it has been a long slog back from that.

At the same time, you could say that the team come back strong after a defeat. After losing to Stoke in the cup, we went on to get 7 points from 3 away games (Chelsea, Sunderland, Fulham). After losing to Everton, we went on to get 9 points from 2 home and 1 away (Wigan, Burnley, Brum).

Now, if we could go on and achieve something like what we did after the last 2 defeats, I'd be over the moon - literally!

[Slim]

The upside to this is we haven't lost two league games in a row this season.

[btajim]

No, you've found people I wouldn't want at the ground as nervousness resonates and we need to SUCK IT THE FUCK UP and get behind the team now more than ever.

It's only natural to be apprehensive when there's so much at stake. I've never known Semi Finals, Top 4 and similar expectation before. Neither have a great deal of us.

Trust me, I'll have my shirt on and a Beer in my hand with only what's best for City on my mind.

[brite blu sky]

we got trashed by Everton in a way that rocked this team to the boots. imo it has been a long slog back from that.

At the same time, you could say that the team come back strong after a defeat. After losing to Stoke in the cup, we went on to get 7 points from 3 away games (Chelsea, Sunderland, Fulham). After losing to Everton, we went on to get 9 points from 2 home and 1 away (Wigan, Burnley, Brum).

Now, if we could go on and achieve something like what we did after the last 2 defeats, I'd be over the moon - literally!

i mean the trashing we got at Goodison beefy, not the coms defeat which wasn't a trashing, just bad.

it has been a long slog back from that at times, really dented the team and Mancinis confidence in my estimation.

[Beefymcfc]

we got trashed by Everton in a way that rocked this team to the boots. imo it has been a long slog back from that.

At the same time, you could say that the team come back strong after a defeat. After losing to Stoke in the cup, we went on to get 7 points from 3 away games (Chelsea, Sunderland, Fulham). After losing to Everton, we went on to get 9 points from 2 home and 1 away (Wigan, Burnley, Brum).

Now, if we could go on and achieve something like what we did after the last 2 defeats, I'd be over the moon - literally!

i mean the trashing we got at Goodison beefy, not the coms defeat which wasn't a trashing, just bad.

it has been a long slog back from that at times, really dented the team and Mancinis confidence in my estimation.

You're probably right with the confidence mate but at least they picked themselves up. From that game up until the loss in the FA Cup (in ET and after Ade being sent off) we only lost 2 games, 1 against the Scum and a strange one against Hull. It was a knock yes, but in reality we picked up 8 points in 5 over a very busy and difficuult period. I think the Scum away game hurt us more.