Bellamy to consider retirement?

[Douglas Higginbottom]

The comment that always gets me about Bellamy is "faded in the 2nd half of the season" Is that phrase an anti Bellamy person used and now all sorts throw it out when they want to have a dig.I suppose if he wasn't perfect though he must have faded. Although he was pretty good against Chelsea away and maybe Fulham away and maybe Birmingham at home and maybe..... ah never mind.

[Beefymcfc]

i rekon that players coming out and saying something to the press is due to the unique situation they are in. City are one of the few teams who are bringing in 6 new players in the same year this 25 rule comes in. SO the new players are all safe obviously, the others are all wandering around wondering what is going to happen in 2 weeks time. I dont like the fact that none of them seem to know anything.. has echoes of Capello's farce with the goalkeepers at the WC.

Besides that there are a few players who rank well below Bellemy in effectiveness on the pitch and who should be well before him if there is to be a cull. Robinho for starters, RSC, PV, Jo. Take those 4 out and it is easy enough to make the 25 without chopping anyone else. I cant see 1 reason why Bellemy should be pushed out, he is an asset just as a sub.

I dont like players whinging to the press but im thinking that the club could have dealt with this a lot better and are partly to blame for it.

Very well put. Does anyone still have doubts about City4Eva's (?) thread?

[Beeks]

The comment that always gets me about Bellamy is "faded in the 2nd half of the season" Is that phrase an anti Bellamy person used and now all sorts throw it out when they want to have a dig.I suppose if he wasn't perfect though he must have faded. Although he was pretty good against Chelsea away and maybe Fulham away and maybe Birmingham at home and maybe..... ah never mind.

you tell them Doug..at least you of all people have kept your sanity

[Beefymcfc]

The comment that always gets me about Bellamy is "faded in the 2nd half of the season" Is that phrase an anti Bellamy person used and now all sorts throw it out when they want to have a dig.I suppose if he wasn't perfect though he must have faded. Although he was pretty good against Chelsea away and maybe Fulham away and maybe Birmingham at home and maybe..... ah never mind.

That is a very good point mate and somewhat the same as those who slate players for coming out with statements that Bellers has.

It's a Hard World!

[carl_feedthegoat]

The comment that always gets me about Bellamy is "faded in the 2nd half of the season" Is that phrase an anti Bellamy person used and now all sorts throw it out when they want to have a dig.I suppose if he wasn't perfect though he must have faded. Although he was pretty good against Chelsea away and maybe Fulham away and maybe Birmingham at home and maybe..... ah never mind.

Bellamy was mostly below par post xmas overall......thats not an opinion ...its a fact.

But lets not let facts get in the way hey....

On a personal note - I would like him to be included in the squad.

[brite blu sky]

The comment that always gets me about Bellamy is "faded in the 2nd half of the season" Is that phrase an anti Bellamy person used and now all sorts throw it out when they want to have a dig.I suppose if he wasn't perfect though he must have faded. Although he was pretty good against Chelsea away and maybe Fulham away and maybe Birmingham at home and maybe..... ah never mind.

agreed dont get that argument at all. someone above also pointed out the games he disappeared in.. and i had to laugh, they were the games the whole team disappeared in.. including Tevez.

[carl_feedthegoat]

you don't see many other teams' players coming out and having a whinge as much as ours do. Someone needs to sort all this excessive speaking to the media lark.

bullseye.

Finally someone picks up the main worry here. Our players seem to have little or no team discipline as far as keeping the team things in the team goes. This has been a problem for few years now and needs to be fixed. Captain is there to speak on behalf of players in media. Rest should shut the fuck up.

I said the EXACTLYthe same thing ages ago when Ireland came out with a load of shite in the media and I got slated for it on here.

thats cos your a cunt

Edit: ;)

Probably.

[brite blu sky]

i rekon that players coming out and saying something to the press is due to the unique situation they are in. City are one of the few teams who are bringing in 6 new players in the same year this 25 rule comes in. SO the new players are all safe obviously, the others are all wandering around wondering what is going to happen in 2 weeks time. I dont like the fact that none of them seem to know anything.. has echoes of Capello's farce with the goalkeepers at the WC.

Besides that there are a few players who rank well below Bellemy in effectiveness on the pitch and who should be well before him if there is to be a cull. Robinho for starters, RSC, PV, Jo. Take those 4 out and it is easy enough to make the 25 without chopping anyone else. I cant see 1 reason why Bellemy should be pushed out, he is an asset just as a sub.

I dont like players whinging to the press but im thinking that the club could have dealt with this a lot better and are partly to blame for it.

Very well put. Does anyone still have doubts about City4Eva's (?) thread?

ha ha.. well it still only proves Bellemy's point of view, that he feels he is being left out/pushed out, but if all this is to be taken at face value then he admits not having spoke to anyone since Feb. But 4Evas story and this still dont mean he is going to get the push, just that he doesn't know and fears the worse. I was also gonna comment on this thread that i will believe it when it happens.. and got sucked into all the bickering.
My point was also that how many other players are also feeling / thinking this.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

The comment that always gets me about Bellamy is "faded in the 2nd half of the season" Is that phrase an anti Bellamy person used and now all sorts throw it out when they want to have a dig.I suppose if he wasn't perfect though he must have faded. Although he was pretty good against Chelsea away and maybe Fulham away and maybe Birmingham at home and maybe..... ah never mind.

Bellamy was mostly below par post xmas overall......thats not an opinion ...its a fact.

But lets not let facts get in the way hey....

On a personal note - I would like him to be included in the squad.

Forgive me but the fact that you say it is a fact doesnt mean its a fact.

[carl_feedthegoat]

The comment that always gets me about Bellamy is "faded in the 2nd half of the season" Is that phrase an anti Bellamy person used and now all sorts throw it out when they want to have a dig.I suppose if he wasn't perfect though he must have faded. Although he was pretty good against Chelsea away and maybe Fulham away and maybe Birmingham at home and maybe..... ah never mind.

Bellamy was mostly below par post xmas overall......thats not an opinion ...its a fact.

But lets not let facts get in the way hey....

On a personal note - I would like him to be included in the squad.

Forgive me but the fact that you say it is a fact doesnt mean its a fact.

He played very very well pre xmas.

He played below average compared post xmas.

I'd say that was factual.

[johnny crossan]

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[blue wine]

The comment that always gets me about Bellamy is "faded in the 2nd half of the season" Is that phrase an anti Bellamy person used and now all sorts throw it out when they want to have a dig.I suppose if he wasn't perfect though he must have faded. Although he was pretty good against Chelsea away and maybe Fulham away and maybe Birmingham at home and maybe..... ah never mind.

i also think he faded in the 2nd half. but i think thats because he played to many games. I dont know how many games he play but he play 3 games a week a few times and like bellers says him self hes body is not up for that. he did have some great games the 2nd half, but he needed rest in between, but we didnt have a big enough squad last year.

[ross.mcfc]

CityGer – You dislike of Bellamy wouldn’t be based on the fact he’s an ex Celtic player who has only said good things about them since he left and has hinted he wouldn’t mind another spell there is it? Actually when he say retire he might mean go play in the SPL or Championship.

Carl – As Doug said. Just because you say it’s a fact. Doesn’t mean it is. You need proof to back it up and I remember Bellamy being brilliant against Fulham, Villa, Burnley, Bolton and that’s just off the top of my head. Not to mention two goals away from home against the team that won the league. Does that sound like a fact to you?

He wasn’t as good in the second half as he was in the first but in my opinion he was the best player in the League till December. He was our second best player in my eyes last year.

The rights and wrongs of this situation both have their merits. However the one thing that is abundantly clear from this week is that there is no team spirit in this side. It seems we can spend all the millions we like but we don’t have the one thing that you cant buy. Unity. Look forward to more last minute defeats to United and losses against the likes of Hull and Stoke this year folks.

[Nickyboy]

The comment that always gets me about Bellamy is "faded in the 2nd half of the season" Is that phrase an anti Bellamy person used and now all sorts throw it out when they want to have a dig.I suppose if he wasn't perfect though he must have faded. Although he was pretty good against Chelsea away and maybe Fulham away and maybe Birmingham at home and maybe..... ah never mind.

Bellamy was mostly below par post xmas overall......thats not an opinion ...its a fact.

But lets not let facts get in the way hey....

On a personal note - I would like him to be included in the squad.

Forgive me but the fact that you say it is a fact doesnt mean its a fact.

He played very very well pre xmas.

He played below average compared post xmas.

I'd say that was factual.

That is just two statements of opinion.

Does anyone actually have stats for Bellamy pre and post xmas (ie. Goals / assists / pass completion %)??

I personally don't think he had the same impact in the 2nd half of the season - but I think it has more to do with the team as a whole playing poorly and defensive tactics than him actually fading.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

This is fun.
I would accept that he wasn't as consistent in the 2nd half of the season but he had plenty of very good games on a par with the first half of the season.

I think that Nickyboy has it spot on with:

"I personally don't think he had the same impact in the 2nd half of the season - but I think it has more to do with the team as a whole playing poorly and defensive tactics than him actually fading." I felt Bellers played very well most of the time ( one definite exception which I am sure taints opinion more than it should was against the scum) within the context of the way the manager sent the team out to play. Games against Everton,Liverpool,Everton,Arsenal,Scum,Scum,Stoke,Spurs spring to mind.

[Ted Hughes]

Who, apart from Tevez, played better than Bellamy after Christmas? Johnson would be in with a shout but was up & down. Robinho was sacked, Ade was mostly average or below, SWP was shit, Ireland was shit, which attacking player was good? Who played well in the midfield? De Jong perhaps but who else? Barry? Vieira? What about at the back? Micah? Lescott? Toure? Bridge? Tell me honestly that those people were better than Bellamy & I'll tell you your a liar. Under Mancini, our attack was mostly shite & our football was mostly negative & dull. When it was good, it mostly involved Bellamy & Tevez. When they got tired we were shit.

People singling out Bellamy are imo fucking blind or are blaming him for being a Hughes representative. Either way it's fucking shite.

There are at least 10 players worse than Bellamy who wil get in that 25.

[The Man In Blue]

good luck with getting an answer to that question ted!

still, don't like any fucking player talking about this to the media.

[Beeks]

good luck with getting an answer to that question ted!

still, don't like any fucking player talking about this to the media.

I've calmed down a little now

The reason Bellers has spoken out IMO is that he REALLY wants to play for us this season and this is his misguided way of showing it

He knows damn well we are his last chance of winning any silverware in his career so he has laid his cards on the table and is bricking it that he will be dropped

I seriously wouldn't give a fuck if we were talking about a player who has nothing to offer the squad

But IMO..and after an outstanding season last year..we owe him a shot at glory

If we let him go now it will be a crime

[edge275]

good luck with getting an answer to that question ted!

still, don't like any fucking player talking about this to the media.

I've calmed down a little now

The reason Bellers has spoken out IMO is that he REALLY wants to play for us this season and this is his misguided way of showing it

He knows damn well we are his last chance of winning any silverware in his career so he has laid his cards on the table and is bricking it that he will be dropped

I seriously wouldn't give a fuck if we were talking about a player who has nothing to offer the squad

But IMO..and after an outstanding season last year..we owe him a shot at glory

If we let him go now it will be a crime

Yeah I'd agree with that. I feel he did tail off towards the end of the season but the first 6 months he was sublime. I think Bellamy deserves to be in the 25.

[The Man In Blue]

IBH agree with you mate.

tbh i reckon ted's post on this matter pretty much sums it up perfectly. if we are serious about letting one of our best players go - possibly to a direct rival - then we have properly lost the fucking plot. how we laughed when carlitos signed. there are players who we can give GENUINE footballing reasons for exclusion.

i tell you this: if vieira gets into the 25 ahead of bellers it will be a fucking travesty.