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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby Beefymcfc » Sun Jan 02, 2011 7:14 pm

craigmcfc wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:If we put the game into the context of the season, it's not a must win game, nor even a mustn't lose, but if you look at it in context of here and now, we must get something from it. If you take everyone's game in hand and, let's say, give them a win, this would be the table:

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Chavs 38

As that stands, one slip-up could end our season, and with us having the difficult task of having to play them (apart from Spurs) away from home, a win against the Arse would see us 2 points in front of them even if they won their game in hand. A nice position to be in if you ask me.


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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Sun Jan 02, 2011 7:30 pm

Mancio4ever wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
craigmcfc wrote:I wouldn't be disappointed with a draw, especially considering our appalling away record against them but then this season feels different for many reasons. We should aim to repeat the performances at Fulham, Newcastle etc and go for the win

You never know........

Draw and it will make winning the title very, very hard
. We need to have a winning mentality and go for the win.


Defo agree on the winning mentality: that's the actual point of my double rant on matchday thread.

Then, why a draw at the Emirates will make winning the title very, very hard... in a league where all the opponents are in steady will of dropping points... well, that's is beyond me.
Consistency has always been the word and, this season it is twice.
It's up to you Mate, bothering to explain how a draw there - in the middle of a streak of 9 positive results of of ten, and 4 potential wins. there for the taken, before taking to the swamp could make it - very, very hard ....

Because United have two games in hand which you would expect them to win. Draw here and they could go 8 points which would give them clear breathing space.
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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby Swales4ever » Sun Jan 02, 2011 7:55 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Mancio4ever wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
craigmcfc wrote:I wouldn't be disappointed with a draw, especially considering our appalling away record against them but then this season feels different for many reasons. We should aim to repeat the performances at Fulham, Newcastle etc and go for the win

You never know........

Draw and it will make winning the title very, very hard
. We need to have a winning mentality and go for the win.


Defo agree on the winning mentality: that's the actual point of my double rant on matchday thread.

Then, why a draw at the Emirates will make winning the title very, very hard... in a league where all the opponents are in steady will of dropping points... well, that's is beyond me.
Consistency has always been the word and, this season it is twice.
It's up to you Mate, bothering to explain how a draw there - in the middle of a streak of 9 positive results of of ten, and 4 potential wins. there for the taken, before taking to the swamp could make it - very, very hard ....

Because United have two games in hand which you would expect them to win. Draw here and they could go 8 points which would give them clear breathing space.

good point, Mate, but season is half the way, they are just 14 teared granddads, with FA Cup and CL to deal with and the good luck won't last forever... Also be confident that when the Red Flask shall have to chose, he might only choose for CL, because there is where they can bring some money to stay alive....
Then I dont miss the point that we are City, but draw in London and win 3 of the next subsequent 4 fixtures and You will come at the swamp sit on the driving seat... having already discounted the potential of the 2 games in hand... mark my words.

That said, if You look at my original opinion at the top of this topic... I am with You, attitude wise.

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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby craigmcfc » Sun Jan 02, 2011 7:57 pm

Mancio, you do make me laugh. Properly. Out loud.
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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby Swales4ever » Sun Jan 02, 2011 8:04 pm

craigmcfc wrote:Mancio, you do make me laugh. Properly. Out loud.


well, that's a quality.

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You'd need to make a very good psychiatrist in order to guess what next in a eight yrs long line of hatred...


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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby aaron bond » Sun Jan 02, 2011 8:14 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Mancio4ever wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
craigmcfc wrote:I wouldn't be disappointed with a draw, especially considering our appalling away record against them but then this season feels different for many reasons. We should aim to repeat the performances at Fulham, Newcastle etc and go for the win

You never know........

Draw and it will make winning the title very, very hard
. We need to have a winning mentality and go for the win.


Defo agree on the winning mentality: that's the actual point of my double rant on matchday thread.

Then, why a draw at the Emirates will make winning the title very, very hard... in a league where all the opponents are in steady will of dropping points... well, that's is beyond me.
Consistency has always been the word and, this season it is twice.
It's up to you Mate, bothering to explain how a draw there - in the middle of a streak of 9 positive results of of ten, and 4 potential wins. there for the taken, before taking to the swamp could make it - very, very hard ....

Because United have two games in hand which you would expect them to win. Draw here and they could go 8 points which would give them clear breathing space.


Considering their 2 games in hand are away to Chelsea and Blackpool, and considering they've only won 2 out of 9 away games this season, I think there's a chance they'll slip up in those games.

But I do agree we have to go for the win against Arsenal - we're more than capable of winning this match
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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby Im_Spartacus » Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:08 pm

saulman wrote:
john@staustell wrote:Seeing as how our lads were bizarrely (IMHO) slated for stifling Arsenal into a 0-0 draw at Emirates toward the end of last season, do people think that would be a good result next week? Or a disgrace again?

Personally I think we will/should follow our normal tactics of stopping the opposition, whilst we are now better equipped to counter than before and maybe win it. But if it is 0-0, I would regard that as a good result in current circumstances.


Completely agree. Fuck the press and fuck the fickle fans who would no doubt argue that Arsenal were there for thr taking. If we get a point there then it will be an extremely valuble point and could possibly make all the difference come the end of the season.

That said, I think we'll go there and win, probably using the very same tactics.


Thats utter fucking shit from the pair of you. City were slated by the likes of me, a fickle fan, because we had 2/3 games left to reach the top 4, needed points on the board, and in the Arsenal game we failed to even bother to take the game to the opposition. Whether they were there for the taking or not, we needed 3 points, and didnt even attempt to get them

Totally fucking unforgiveable - a point was worth fuck all, 3 points were worth £20m

This year, at this stage of the season, a point would be lovely thank you
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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby Blue2 » Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:18 pm

Despite the rags having the games in hand, I would be happy with a draw.
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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby blues2win » Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:56 pm

I'm worried about Wednesdat. Silva's probably out and Yaya looks knackered. Milner will come in but that's hardly a replacement for lost creativity. Walcot on the right suggests Zaba will play LB because Kolarov looks a little short on confidence and may even have been playing with a slight knock in the second half against Blackpool. Nasri on the left; frankly I've no particular confidence in either Boateng or Richards against a classy player but I'd go for Boateng because he's technically better and has better positional sense. If Wenger plays Chamakh we'll need to up our game in the air.

Plenty of worries but what we'll need on Wednesday above all is De Jong and Barry protecting the back four and striking hard and fast out of defence because Arsenal are vulnerable at the back. I'd go with Johnson on the right against Clichy but he needs to offer protection tracking back against Nasri.

All in all a really tough game and I'd be delighted with a point against a Champion's League place competitor.
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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby john68 » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:03 pm

In past seasons, considering the company we were keeping, a draw at the Emirates was like a win.
This season, it's all so different. Our immediate rivals can't be relied on to drop points. We are sat so near the top, yet just at arms reach from the ultimate place. A draw may be excellent in a City sort of sense but potentially it's another 2 points we have to find from somwhere else.

A win keeps us in touch and in the mix for top spot. It increases the pressure on our rivals and it shows the World that we are ready.

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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby Im_Spartacus » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:09 pm

john68 wrote:In past seasons, considering the company we were keeping, a draw at the Emirates was like a win.
This season, it's all so different. Our immediate rivals can't be relied on to drop points. We are sat so near the top, yet just at arms reach from the ultimate place. A draw may be excellent in a City sort of sense but potentially it's another 2 points we have to find from somwhere else.

A win keeps us in touch and in the mix for top spot. It increases the pressure on our rivals and it shows the World that we are ready.

ARE WE READY???....WE FIND OUT ON WEDNESDAY!!!


Would United expect to win there. Fucking right they would, and they have a bunch of shitters in their team. its all about the mentality from hereon in.
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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby brite blu sky » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:02 am

johnpb78 wrote:
john68 wrote:In past seasons, considering the company we were keeping, a draw at the Emirates was like a win.
This season, it's all so different. Our immediate rivals can't be relied on to drop points. We are sat so near the top, yet just at arms reach from the ultimate place. A draw may be excellent in a City sort of sense but potentially it's another 2 points we have to find from somwhere else.

A win keeps us in touch and in the mix for top spot. It increases the pressure on our rivals and it shows the World that we are ready.

ARE WE READY???....WE FIND OUT ON WEDNESDAY!!!


Would United expect to win there. Fucking right they would, and they have a bunch of shitters in their team. its all about the mentality from hereon in.


I dont think the rags would expect to win... they would certainly expect to be in with a serious chance of winning.. which is slightly different, but still translates into believing they can go and win.
I would think we are in the same boat we have a good 50/50 chance to win it on the day and there is no reason we cant go there and believe we can take all 3 pts.

It is going to be a fascinating encounter and i think being away from home suits us at the moment and allows us to be more relaxed from the off. This will be our biggest away challenge of the season so far though i think and one that we need to set the tone with.
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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby bluej » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:09 am

Beefymcfc wrote:If we put the game into the context of the season, it's not a must win game, nor even a mustn't lose, but if you look at it in context of here and now, we must get something from it. If you take everyone's game in hand and, let's say, give them a win, this would be the table:

Rags 47
Arse 42
City 41
Yids 39
Chavs 38

As that stands, one slip-up could end our season, and with us having the difficult task of having to play them (apart from Spurs) away from home, a win against the Arse would see us 2 points in front of them even if they won their game in hand. A nice position to be in if you ask me.


Don't forget that one of the rags game in hand is against Chelsea (away as well) so they're not necessarily due the win. If they do win it however then Chelsea would be in right shit!
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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby Swales4ever » Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:17 am

johnpb78 wrote:
john68 wrote:In past seasons, considering the company we were keeping, a draw at the Emirates was like a win.
This season, it's all so different. Our immediate rivals can't be relied on to drop points. We are sat so near the top, yet just at arms reach from the ultimate place. A draw may be excellent in a City sort of sense but potentially it's another 2 points we have to find from somwhere else.

A win keeps us in touch and in the mix for top spot. It increases the pressure on our rivals and it shows the World that we are ready.

ARE WE READY???....WE FIND OUT ON WEDNESDAY!!!


Would United expect to win there. Fucking right they would, and they have a bunch of shitters in their team. its all about the mentality from hereon in.


That's actually a quote I CAN LOVE,indeed.

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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby Blue Since 76 » Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:41 pm

Only listened to it and it sounded like we were lucky to get the point, so pleased with it. Time will tell at the end of the season and maybe the loss of Silva and Ballotelli, together with no Dzeko yet hamstrung us, but I wish we'd be a bit more bold at times.
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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby Sheikhermaker » Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:43 pm

Happy with that performance. Might sound bizarre, but thats a valuable point.
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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby one man army » Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:45 pm

this point WILL earn us CL spot.
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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby MaineRoadMemories » Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:49 pm

Personally I hate the way we play against the top 4 teams. It makes us look like we have no bottle or confidence.
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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby bluej » Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:51 pm

I actually really enjoyed that second half, and the inevitable shit we will take from everyone afterwards. I think with Silva and Balotelli fit then it would have been a different performance.
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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:54 pm

bluej wrote:I actually really enjoyed that second half, and the inevitable shit we will take from everyone afterwards. I think with Silva and Balotelli fit then it would have been a different performance.

I'm sorry but we were so negative. Never even attempted to win that. DIdn't even have a shot on target. Good result shocking performance.
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