Jo Soap

[9secondlegend]

Talk about Fickle.

Blame Jo because the entire team didn't turn up today !

If Johnson left the ball , Jo would not have missed, then he would have been a hero.
Sure he didn't play well, but no one played well today. Even Teves was greedy when he could have played others in.

I can only think we wanted the practise next week to get Dzeko upto scratch....

Name any one of the starting eleven that actually had a good game, I can only think of Lescott and Milner.

its not really fickle is it.
he has been consistantly wank for weeks , no months ...well since we signed him really.
i honestly believe if we had started a traffic cone instead of him today it would have improved the team!

He was alright during pre-season and has done some decent games in Europe. My personal opinion obviously.

If johnson had left the ball to him ( he knew he was there ) and Jo had scored, Nobody would be bitching. Teves didn't do very much either but happened to be in the right place at the right time to tap the ball in.

Three weeks ago Teves shot and missed when he could and should have played Jo on to a certain goal. Jo isn't playing well, but neither are other players. My point is only that today it would be unfair to single just one player out. The whole team except for the two i mentioned ( imo) were pretty dire.

but would you have backed jo to score considering some of the sitters he has missed? no wonder johnson tried to get it before him.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

"Name any one of the starting eleven that actually had a good game, I can only think of Lescott and Milner"

Now that made me laugh.

IF AJ had left it the chances are Jo would have missed. Anyway it's not that he hasnt scored or assisted ,which is poor enough, but the fact that his control is so poor.It needs to be instant but it takes 2 or 2 even when he manages it and even then he has to go backwards because it takes so long he is closed down.When he has a chance of a pass he either just gives it away or misreads somebodys run and plays it into the wrong area ( i.e gives it away)

He is offside as much as Benjani used to be and that I would have thought was impossible.He gets up to head a ball but rarely actually makes contact and even if does he has no idea where it is going.I just can't think of a redeeming feature but Mancini picks him.Weird.

[Sheikhermaker]

Is Jo involved with Joorabchian at all I wonder? He hasn't really been justifying his selection, although his off ball running in the box isn't too shabby, I have seen him create space for other players with decent runs.

Mind boggling really.

[CityFanFromRome]

but would you have backed jo to score considering some of the sitters he has missed? no wonder johnson tried to get it before him.

I hope AJ was just greedy to score himself and didn't think along this way otherwise it would be pretty bad reasoning from him. If a teammate is in a better position, you have to leave the ball to him, no matter how many sitters he may have missed earlier in the season.

[DoomMerchant]

You may well be right Ted.I expect to see Mancini back on defending corners next week.

Actually Dzeko could be a big help to the team in that area.

Ade is one of the best defending forwards around. Why couldn't he have played today? Could have made the difference at both ends of the pitch. Apologies if Ade is injured, but from the OS Video someone posted in the Jayko thread Ade looked fine in what looked like Friday or Saturday's practice. Head and shoulders above Jo and a good defender of set pieces.

cheers

[Slim]

I thought we had a lot of weak links today and jo was definately among them. I have been sticking up for him in the past and would love nothing more than for this guy to be our go-to number 12 when we need a change, but it's hard to see the virtues of him holding down a spot even on the bench today.

However, SWP and Boetang were just as bad and Kolarov wasn't much better.

[Fish111]

I haven't read all this thread but i'd just like to say that thankfully we should have seen the last of Jo now that we have Dzeko. How that bloke has passed himself off as a footballer for all these years is totally beyond me.

[john@staustell]

I thought we did really well considering we played the first half with 9 men. Jo was gash but SWP ran him very close. Next time some twat asks 'why isn't little Shaunie getting a game' I'll make them sit down and ram the first half video down their necks. (As well as his last half dozen efforts)

[branny]

Talk about Fickle.

Blame Jo because the entire team didn't turn up today !

If Johnson left the ball , Jo would not have missed, then he would have been a hero.
Sure he didn't play well, but no one played well today. Even Teves was greedy when he could have played others in.

I can only think we wanted the practise next week to get Dzeko upto scratch....

Name any one of the starting eleven that actually had a good game, I can only think of Lescott and Milner.

its not really fickle is it.
he has been consistantly wank for weeks , no months ...well since we signed him really.
i honestly believe if we had started a traffic cone instead of him today it would have improved the team!

He was alright during pre-season and has done some decent games in Europe. My personal opinion obviously.

If johnson had left the ball to him ( he knew he was there ) and Jo had scored, Nobody would be bitching. Teves didn't do very much either but happened to be in the right place at the right time to tap the ball in.

Three weeks ago Teves shot and missed when he could and should have played Jo on to a certain goal. Jo isn't playing well, but neither are other players. My point is only that today it would be unfair to single just one player out. The whole team except for the two i mentioned ( imo) were pretty dire.

but would you have backed jo to score considering some of the sitters he has missed? no wonder johnson tried to get it before him.

I agree with legend. He missed an easier similar chance recently from virtually on the goal line. He got a bad contact and the ball skewed off to the side.

[branny]

Obviously, Balotelli or Silva will be in the side instead of him.

When they're not available or we're playing a cup game against a lesser side and some need a rest, he'll step in and do a job. Sometimes a good job, sometimes average and sometimes a bit shit, but never spectacular.

Now if you think there is somebody who is spectacular, or even very good consistantly that wants to come and sit on our bench without moaning, let us know.

Otherwise, stop player bashing. "Jo out". Very good.

It's frustrating because Bobby sent Bellers out on loan and he would have fit your description perfectly.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

Bellamy's loan was nowt to do with Jo getting a place.

Maybe not directly, but one got a spot and one went.

[john@staustell]

http://www.manchestercity.vitalfootball ... p?a=227738

City Fans Prepared To Sacrifice Jo Brilliance


Calling all agents and travelling circus acts. The time has come for Planet Blue to reluctantly accept that Joao Alves Jo should leave Manchester City as soon as possible...

This might come as a shock to Roberto Mancini and a bus queue of hatstand Jo admirers, but if City are to realise lofty ambitions this Spring then we will have to start games with ten outfield players more regularly. 73 minutes without Jo before his substitution at Leicester certainly gave the home side an unfair advantage.

In truth, you never know what you'll get with Jo which is what makes his inexplicable presence on a football pitch all the more intriguing.

Will he be able to remain standing up with the ball somewhere near his feet if an opposition player comes within a yard of him? Can he run with the ball unaided for a period of 5 seconds? Or will he throw himself to the ground clutching his face to the toe curling embarrassment of his team's supporters should he get touched anywhere else on his body? For the more fashion conscious fan, what hairstyle will he sport?

Jo's stumbling, sprawling credentials are second to anyone. His meretriciously conspicuous ball control has to be seen to be disbelieved. City fans, in idle moments following 'boring City TM' often play a game of second guess as to where any Jo header will end up. Numerous Balti Pies have been won and lost as a result of the wayward Brazilian's mesmerising rambling runs into nowhere.

Blues would like to make it clear however that the scandalous rumour that Frank Shinawatra's advisers £18 million signing of Jo from Moscow during a management 'black hole' at Eastlands was not a mistake. The entertainment value has been X-factorishly wonderful. The only mistake was that they meant to come back to Manchester with Wagner Love.

At the moment of going to press, Norff Laandarn Taarn used car salesman Harold Redknapp is believed to be prepared to host 'The Beckham Circus' for a limited period this season. If he is looking for a clown to further distract from the rest of his team's collective efforts then Jo could offer that extra something thus far undefined at the City of Manchester Stadium.

Like a succession of hapleslly lunged for crosses, this opportunity is not to be missed.

We have 47,000 taxis on standby to drive Jo to wherever his agent would like him to be.

Jo has been under contract at Manchester City since 7th July 2008 and has made 9 league starts. He has scored 1 league goal.

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Man City striker is unwilling to leave, despite offers

Now that the Man City boss Roberto Mancini has brought Edin Dzeko the the Eastlands, he now has six first-class centre-forwards at his disposal in Dzeko, Tevez, Ballotelli, Adebayor, Santa Cruz and the Brazilian Jo.

There is very little chance that the last three named are ikely to get a game under Mancini in the near future, and Adebayor and Santa Cruz both seem to be actively looking for a new club, but Jo hasn’t yet given up on keeping his place in the City team.

It was reported that the Greek giants Olympiakos were very keen to take him on loan, but according to Jo’s agent, his client has no intention of leaving the Eastlands any time soon, and certainly not to Greece!

“There is no option for Jo to go to Greece,” Guliano Bertolucci said. “He has played in most of the last few games at City and doesn’t want to leave on loan.

“Jo has five offers right now from clubs outside of England but he doesn’t want to leave.

“There is no offer from Olympiakos. We have offers from Spain, France and Russia.”

Mancini is going to have to dispose of some of his players soon or he will have more players that simply can’t play for the club than other teams have in their whole squad

[Mikhail Chigorin]

If Jo's form and value to the team is considered in an objective, rather than a knee-jerk fashion, I think you'd have to say that his form tends to mirror how well/badly the team are actually performing at any one time.

For instance, he had a good/decent game at Fulham, when all the team sparkled both collectively and individually but, against Leicester when we looked totally 'out of sorts', he got sucked into the general miasma befalling most of the side.

He does offer some width and balance on the left, he does track back to a degree and his height and heading ability can be useful in both penalty boxes. He's also shown that he does have some skill and eye for a goal on occasion.

However, when the team are up against it, you need individuals who can step up to the plate and take the game by the scruff of the neck and I don't think Jo fills this category. Perhaps it's the Brazilian in him which, when the sun is shining and the team are in full flow, spurs (apologies for using this word) him on to having a good game from time to time.

If Jo is to remain in the squad and be a valid and useful participant, I think Bobby Manc has to pick his games more carefully and 3rd round FA Cup ties, away at Leicester, just don't fit the bill.

I'd keep him in the squad for now, as he's still relatively young, but if ever Dzeko were injured in the future and unable to play for any length of time, I wouldn't regard Jo as being his 'understudy', which might suggest we need an additional striker from some source to make up our numbers for future campaigns.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

If Jo's form and value to the team is considered in an objective, rather than a knee-jerk fashion, I think you'd have to say that his form tends to mirror how well/badly the team are actually performing at any one time.

For instance, he had a good/decent game at Fulham, when all the team sparkled both collectively and individually but, against Leicester when we looked totally 'out of sorts', he got sucked into the general miasma befalling most of the side.

He does offer some width and balance on the left, he does track back to a degree and his height and heading ability can be useful in both penalty boxes. He's also shown that he does have some skill and eye for a goal on occasion.

However, when the team are up against it, you need individuals who can step up to the plate and take the game by the scruff of the neck and I don't think Jo fills this category. Perhaps it's the Brazilian in him which, when the sun is shining and the team are in full flow, spurs (apologies for using this word) him on to having a good game from time to time.

If Jo is to remain in the squad and be a valid and useful participant, I think Bobby Manc has to pick his games more carefully and 3rd round FA Cup ties, away at Leicester, just don't fit the bill.

I'd keep him in the squad for now, as he's still relatively young, but if ever Dzeko were injured in the future and unable to play for any length of time, I wouldn't regard Jo as being his 'understudy', which might suggest we need an additional striker from some source to make up our numbers for future campaigns.

We have definitely been watching different players.

[brite blu sky]

If Jo's form and value to the team is considered in an objective, rather than a knee-jerk fashion, I think you'd have to say that his form tends to mirror how well/badly the team are actually performing at any one time.

For instance, he had a good/decent game at Fulham, when all the team sparkled both collectively and individually but, against Leicester when we looked totally 'out of sorts', he got sucked into the general miasma befalling most of the side.

He does offer some width and balance on the left, he does track back to a degree and his height and heading ability can be useful in both penalty boxes. He's also shown that he does have some skill and eye for a goal on occasion.

However, when the team are up against it, you need individuals who can step up to the plate and take the game by the scruff of the neck and I don't think Jo fills this category. Perhaps it's the Brazilian in him which, when the sun is shining and the team are in full flow, spurs (apologies for using this word) him on to having a good game from time to time.

If Jo is to remain in the squad and be a valid and useful participant, I think Bobby Manc has to pick his games more carefully and 3rd round FA Cup ties, away at Leicester, just don't fit the bill.

I'd keep him in the squad for now, as he's still relatively young, but if ever Dzeko were injured in the future and unable to play for any length of time, I wouldn't regard Jo as being his 'understudy', which might suggest we need an additional striker from some source to make up our numbers for future campaigns.

I would take the point your making, but i cant defend Jo very much as he just can't impose himself in the prem.
Aside from that though and in a kind of agreement, i dont often pick out individual players for a slagging, for a simple reason that it is a team game and the players around you could be the reason someone is not able to perform.
My take on the Leicester game was that we didn't have anyone who was able to take the sting out of the midfield mêlee, we got dragged into the mess as we do with Everton. Players like Barry and Silva do little turns and jinks to gain space and take out a player or two for a moment, Yaya does it as well. We missed that and the influence it has on those around as it gains space and time and makes the opposition wary to commit as more of the players adopt a relaxed and confident attitude of being able to outplay the oppo. Jo benefits from that and suffers when we cant do it... hence you see him better or hopeless depending on our midfield control.

[Ted Hughes]

You may well be right Ted.I expect to see Mancini back on defending corners next week.

Actually Dzeko could be a big help to the team in that area.

Ade is one of the best defending forwards around. Why couldn't he have played today? Could have made the difference at both ends of the pitch. Apologies if Ade is injured, but from the OS Video someone posted in the Jayko thread Ade looked fine in what looked like Friday or Saturday's practice. Head and shoulders above Jo and a good defender of set pieces.

cheers

I can only assume Ade is going.

I feel a little bit sorry for Jo, as I recon he's trying as hard as a great big, lazy arsed, poncing. Brazilian, fairy would ever do & I also think that it's unfair to say he does EVERYTHING wrong all the time. He did win some headers, he did make some good runs & he did have a goal taken off him by AJ. The trouble is, the sheer number of shit things he does & headers, passes etc he gets wrong often eclipse the the bits he gets right in between. He's not shit usually for 90 mins imo but he's ALWAYS shit for a decent period, even in a game when he's playing relatively well.

I've been heavilly on his case in the past & I've defended him recently because he's sometimes done ok, but he's clearly not good enough & it was one of the strangest decisions ever in football to give him Bellamy's job on the pre season tour, when Bellamy was doing fine & then subsequently keep him & dump Bellers. What a fantastic option Bellamy would be right now, with Silva to slide passes through.

Now we have another tall striker we don't need Jo, it's time his place went to someone else.

[one man army]

http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/48 ... riker.aspx

[Ted Hughes]

Five confirmed offers.

Ok I'll start the ball rolling with 'Sesame Street The Movie'.

[Mark (Blue Army)]

PLEASE JO JUST TAKE ONE OF THE OFFERS!!!

[Green & Blue]

Five confirmed offers.

Ok I'll start the ball rolling with 'Sesame Street The Movie'.

Lead role in Hairspray