Bellamy

[the_georgian_genius]

To be honest, I think Bellers has more in common with the club and fans than Mancio has.

Course he does, because he shows what the english and british treasure more than anything else - passion, desire, commitment, hard work mentality which is why the likes of england, scotland and ireland have dominated the world and european tournaments since our first in 1966, those tippy tappy won't track back lazy continental lot don't have the passion, desire, commitment and hard work mentality to be a success in football which is why they never win fuck all.

You only have to look at blue moon rising and see the passion and desire he had to win that game, it doesn't matter if he let whoever it was get passed him with considerable ease to put in the cross for crouch to score that ended our champions league dreams because he ran about showing passion, desire, commitment and worked hard for the team.

[DoomMerchant]

To be honest, I think Bellers has more in common with the club and fans than Mancio has.

that's right...

and for the comment above by the Mancini-licking genuis wrt how ridiculous it would be to think of our team as capable of winning the league with Bellers in the squad vs. him not in the squad -- it's about role players and having that extra something when you need it sometimes.

We have no one who will come off the bench and give us some brimstone and be willing to shout to the heavens to get us where we need to go. it's as psychological as it is physical. Where is our fuclin spirit? Can't help but feel like it's a little bit missing even despite the string of good results. Fear is our motivator, but i wish it was possibility instead.

cheers

[the_georgian_genius]

To be honest, I think Bellers has more in common with the club and fans than Mancio has.

that's right...

and for the comment above by the Mancini-licking genuis wrt how ridiculous it would be to think of our team as capable of winning the league with Bellers in the squad vs. him not in the squad -- it's about role players and having that extra something when you need it sometimes.

We have no one who will come off the bench and give us some brimstone and be willing to shout to the heavens to get us where we need to go. it's as psychological as it is physical. Where is our fuclin spirit? Can't help but feel like it's a little bit missing even despite the string of good results. Fear is our motivator, but i wish it was possibility instead.

cheers

As i have already said which you have seen to have missed, he would improve us as he is a good player. He isn't the difference between winning it and not winning it though and if you beleive that then...........

[carl_feedthegoat]

To be honest, I think Bellers has more in common with the club and fans than Mancio has.

Course he does, because he shows what the english and british treasure more than anything else - passion, desire, commitment, hard work mentality which is why the likes of england, scotland and ireland have dominated the world and european tournaments since our first in 1966, those tippy tappy won't track back lazy continental lot don't have the passion, desire, commitment and hard work mentality to be a success in football which is why they never win fuck all.

You only have to look at blue moon rising and see the passion and desire he had to win that game, it doesn't matter if he let whoever it was get passed him with considerable ease to put in the cross for crouch to score that ended our champions league dreams because he ran about showing passion, desire, commitment and worked hard for the team.

They couldn't dominate a tiddlywinks competition against a blind man.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Bellamy was a fantastic player for us and anyone saying he is no better than what we have now is a f'cking idiot.
Not only did he have pace , he had the ability and the end product 9/10 times. Anyone claiming he wouldn't walk into our side needs their head checking.

[carl_feedthegoat]

We have players fighting on the training field as it is - imagine Bellamy, Ballotelli, Tevez in the dressing room at half time as we are 1 - 0 down???...someone wouldn't come out for the second half !!

I think the above has more to do with the reason Bellamy is not here.

[DoomMerchant]

Bellamy was a fantastic player for us and anyone saying he is no better than what we have now is a f'cking idiot.
Not only did he have pace , he had the ability and the end product 9/10 times. Anyone claiming he wouldn't walk into our side needs their head checking.

of course. it's not even really open for debate.

When i was on the preseason tour here in the States and we heard rumours that Bellamy wouldn't make the 25-man roster, despite playing and seemingly working ok with Mancini on that preseason tour, we were all convinced it was total bollox. Sadly, that was mistaken.

I'm ranting on about Bellers, and i know he's not here, so it means fuck all.

cheers

[Blue in the face]

To be honest, I think Bellers has more in common with the club and fans than Mancio has.

Course he does, because he shows what the english and british treasure more than anything else - passion, desire, commitment, hard work mentality which is why the likes of england, scotland and ireland have dominated the world and european tournaments since our first in 1966, those tippy tappy won't track back lazy continental lot don't have the passion, desire, commitment and hard work mentality to be a success in football which is why they never win fuck all.

You only have to look at blue moon rising and see the passion and desire he had to win that game, it doesn't matter if he let whoever it was get passed him with considerable ease to put in the cross for crouch to score that ended our champions league dreams because he ran about showing passion, desire, commitment and worked hard for the team.

They couldn't dominate a tiddlywinks competition against a blind man.

Bit like england then.

[carl_feedthegoat]

To be honest, I think Bellers has more in common with the club and fans than Mancio has.

Course he does, because he shows what the english and british treasure more than anything else - passion, desire, commitment, hard work mentality which is why the likes of england, scotland and ireland have dominated the world and european tournaments since our first in 1966, those tippy tappy won't track back lazy continental lot don't have the passion, desire, commitment and hard work mentality to be a success in football which is why they never win fuck all.

You only have to look at blue moon rising and see the passion and desire he had to win that game, it doesn't matter if he let whoever it was get passed him with considerable ease to put in the cross for crouch to score that ended our champions league dreams because he ran about showing passion, desire, commitment and worked hard for the team.

They couldn't dominate a tiddlywinks competition against a blind man.

Bit like england then.

Not really..at least we get to the party.

[Original Dub]

To be honest, I think Bellers has more in common with the club and fans than Mancio has.

Course he does, because he shows what the english and british treasure more than anything else - passion, desire, commitment, hard work mentality which is why the likes of england, scotland and ireland have dominated the world and european tournaments since our first in 1966, those tippy tappy won't track back lazy continental lot don't have the passion, desire, commitment and hard work mentality to be a success in football which is why they never win fuck all.

You only have to look at blue moon rising and see the passion and desire he had to win that game, it doesn't matter if he let whoever it was get passed him with considerable ease to put in the cross for crouch to score that ended our champions league dreams because he ran about showing passion, desire, commitment and worked hard for the team.

What a strange post. You think the world cup winning teams used only skill and no fighting spirit?????

Wow.

You need BOTH. We have an abundance of skill, but as a side we lack pace and spirit. Bellamy had both. And stop saying he's not mentioned when we're on a winning run - of course he's not mentioned when we're fucking winning because the whole point being made is that he would have been an option to us to help us NOT LOSE.

Like I said, I have watched at least five games where I could safely say that Bellamy coming off the bench would have rattled a tired defence. He has done won points for us before and he would do it again if allowed. Him or some other lightening quick attacker who has a never say die attitude.

and you said in the same fucking post that he would be a fantastic option for us from the bench, but he wouldn't be the difference in us winning the league??

Every piece of armour we possess or not possess could be the difference in winning the league. Pace is DEFINITELY one of those pieces.

[Ted Hughes]

I don't think Bellamy would have been the answer at Villa but I don't think there's been a single game when we've needed a substitution or a different starting 11, where Bellamy wouldn't have been as good or better than the player picked. And if he was so shit since Bob came, why did Bob keep playing him?

I've absolutely no doubt that Bellamy would have made a huge difference in some of the games we've struggled, Wolves away for starters & WBA in the league cup. Just those two games would have been worth his wages & any bullshit 'baggage' he's unfairly been accused of bringing to the team. We may yet get knocked out of one, or both cups because of resting players when we could have used Bellamy.

On no occasion, even on the best day he's ever had, is Jo better than Bellamy on a bad day; attacking defending or in front of goal. You all know it, so why even bother pretending otherwise? It's all bollocks to deflect from, what everybody knows, was a huge mistake.

Of course not. But Jo is hardly a measurestick for Premier League striker.

Also, one point that people seem to forget is that Bellamy wanted to go to Cardiff. In fact, there were rumours that he was willing to go on strike if he didn't get the move. So isn't this all pretty fucking pointless even from that point of view?

As if he'd want to go to Cardiff & play in a lower league! Does that sound like Bellamy? Take the easy way out ather than challenge for trophies in the Prem? He wouldn't have left West Ham for Cardiff, let alone City. He went to Cardiff because he turned down Wolfsberg & we knew he was too good to be allowed to play for a Prem team Cardiff was a compromise deal to get him to go, because if he stayed, the fans would demand he played & the brass didn't want him around.

I don't know why it's neccessary to have all these daft stories, none of which have any defineable source. People are choosing to believe all kinds of unproven & downright ridiculous stuff rather than accept the obvios fact that Bob & Co didn't want him. The exact same thing is happening with Adebayor now; people are making up mysterious & sinister reasons for him not playing because the alternative would be to accept that Bob is playing Jo instead. If Ade goes, by this time next year the story will probably be; it's because he poked Bob in the eye, causing him to have an operation.

[Kladze]

I don't think Bellamy would have been the answer at Villa but I don't think there's been a single game when we've needed a substitution or a different starting 11, where Bellamy wouldn't have been as good or better than the player picked. And if he was so shit since Bob came, why did Bob keep playing him?

I've absolutely no doubt that Bellamy would have made a huge difference in some of the games we've struggled, Wolves away for starters & WBA in the league cup. Just those two games would have been worth his wages & any bullshit 'baggage' he's unfairly been accused of bringing to the team. We may yet get knocked out of one, or both cups because of resting players when we could have used Bellamy.

On no occasion, even on the best day he's ever had, is Jo better than Bellamy on a bad day; attacking defending or in front of goal. You all know it, so why even bother pretending otherwise? It's all bollocks to deflect from, what everybody knows, was a huge mistake.

Of course not. But Jo is hardly a measurestick for Premier League striker.

Also, one point that people seem to forget is that Bellamy wanted to go to Cardiff. In fact, there were rumours that he was willing to go on strike if he didn't get the move. So isn't this all pretty fucking pointless even from that point of view?

As if he'd want to go to Cardiff & play in a lower league! Does that sound like Bellamy? Take the easy way out ather than challenge for trophies in the Prem? He wouldn't have left West Ham for Cardiff, let alone City. He went to Cardiff because he turned down Wolfsberg & we knew he was too good to be allowed to play for a Prem team Cardiff was a compromise deal to get him to go, because if he stayed, the fans would demand he played & the brass didn't want him around.

I don't know why it's neccessary to have all these daft stories, none of which have any defineable source. [highlight]People are choosing to believe all kinds of unproven & downright ridiculous stuff rather than accept the obvios fact that Bob & Co didn't want him[/highlight]. The exact same thing is happening with Adebayor now; people are making up mysterious & sinister reasons for him not playing because the alternative would be to accept that Bob is playing Jo instead. If Ade goes, by this time next year the story will probably be; it's because he poked Bob in the eye, causing him to have an operation.

It's also true to say that we employ a manager to make player decisions - and once he's made them we should accept them, rather than go on and on about how Bellamy would have, somehow, been the one man team who would have brought Villa's defensive barrier crashing to the ground.

[Ted Hughes]

Bellamy was a fantastic player for us and anyone saying he is no better than what we have now is a f'cking idiot.
Not only did he have pace , he had the ability and the end product 9/10 times. Anyone claiming he wouldn't walk into our side needs their head checking.

of course. it's not even really open for debate.

When i was on the preseason tour here in the States and we heard rumours that Bellamy wouldn't make the 25-man roster, despite playing and seemingly working ok with Mancini on that preseason tour, we were all convinced it was total bollox. Sadly, that was mistaken.

I'm ranting on about Bellers, and i know he's not here, so it means fuck all.

cheers

Unfortunately that's true but I struggle to just sit here let all the misinformation slide by without saying anything.

It's also a discussion worthy topic though because it's close to being one of those possible historical fuck ups that City have been famous for over the years, which helped spawn the 'typical City' phrase; when we chuck out the baby with the bathwater. Luckily, this time, we have such resources that we won't ultimately pay for it. We have only fucked up 'x' number of potential points he could have won us short term, rather fucking up than the whole club for years, like previous managers or Swales did with similar moves in the past.

[Original Dub]

I don't think Bellamy would have been the answer at Villa but I don't think there's been a single game when we've needed a substitution or a different starting 11, where Bellamy wouldn't have been as good or better than the player picked. And if he was so shit since Bob came, why did Bob keep playing him?

I've absolutely no doubt that Bellamy would have made a huge difference in some of the games we've struggled, Wolves away for starters & WBA in the league cup. Just those two games would have been worth his wages & any bullshit 'baggage' he's unfairly been accused of bringing to the team. We may yet get knocked out of one, or both cups because of resting players when we could have used Bellamy.

On no occasion, even on the best day he's ever had, is Jo better than Bellamy on a bad day; attacking defending or in front of goal. You all know it, so why even bother pretending otherwise? It's all bollocks to deflect from, what everybody knows, was a huge mistake.

Of course not. But Jo is hardly a measurestick for Premier League striker.

Also, one point that people seem to forget is that Bellamy wanted to go to Cardiff. In fact, there were rumours that he was willing to go on strike if he didn't get the move. So isn't this all pretty fucking pointless even from that point of view?

As if he'd want to go to Cardiff & play in a lower league! Does that sound like Bellamy? Take the easy way out ather than challenge for trophies in the Prem? He wouldn't have left West Ham for Cardiff, let alone City. He went to Cardiff because he turned down Wolfsberg & we knew he was too good to be allowed to play for a Prem team Cardiff was a compromise deal to get him to go, because if he stayed, the fans would demand he played & the brass didn't want him around.

I don't know why it's neccessary to have all these daft stories, none of which have any defineable source. [highlight]People are choosing to believe all kinds of unproven & downright ridiculous stuff rather than accept the obvios fact that Bob & Co didn't want him[/highlight]. The exact same thing is happening with Adebayor now; people are making up mysterious & sinister reasons for him not playing because the alternative would be to accept that Bob is playing Jo instead. If Ade goes, by this time next year the story will probably be; it's because he poked Bob in the eye, causing him to have an operation.

It's also true to say that we employ a manager to make player decisions - and once he's made them we should accept them, rather than go on and on about how Bellamy would have, somehow, been the one man team who would have brought Villa's defensive barrier crashing to the ground.

Absolutely daft post mate - nobody at all said Bellamy would have been a one man team who would have brought Villa's defence crashing to the ground... merely that he would have been an excellent option to have in certain games or coming off the bench.

Why in God's name you'd choose to take such an exaggerated path is beyond me.

It reminds me of an ex girlfriend. yuk.

[dazby]

If Ireland had of stayed and played we'd have won every game this season.

This game is easy.

[Slim]

If Ireland had of stayed and played we'd have won every game this season.

This game is easy.

Sibierski, every game last season too.

Fucking mint.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

If Ireland had of stayed and played we'd have won every game this season.

This game is easy.

Sibierski, every game last season too.

Fucking mint.

Exactly.

[Mase]

If Ireland had of stayed and played we'd have won every game this season.

This game is easy.

Sibierski, every game last season too.

Fucking mint.

If Scott Hiley hadn't been taken out by the invisible man that time we'd have gone on to win the treble!

[Pretty Boy Lee]

I don't think Bellamy would have been the answer at Villa but I don't think there's been a single game when we've needed a substitution or a different starting 11, where Bellamy wouldn't have been as good or better than the player picked. And if he was so shit since Bob came, why did Bob keep playing him?

I've absolutely no doubt that Bellamy would have made a huge difference in some of the games we've struggled, Wolves away for starters & WBA in the league cup. Just those two games would have been worth his wages & any bullshit 'baggage' he's unfairly been accused of bringing to the team. We may yet get knocked out of one, or both cups because of resting players when we could have used Bellamy.

On no occasion, even on the best day he's ever had, is Jo better than Bellamy on a bad day; attacking defending or in front of goal. You all know it, so why even bother pretending otherwise? It's all bollocks to deflect from, what everybody knows, was a huge mistake.

Of course not. But Jo is hardly a measurestick for Premier League striker.

Also, one point that people seem to forget is that Bellamy wanted to go to Cardiff. In fact, there were rumours that he was willing to go on strike if he didn't get the move. So isn't this all pretty fucking pointless even from that point of view?

There were loads of bullshit rumours about Bellamy.

So what you are basically suggesting is that he never wanted to go to his native Cardiff? That the Club forced HIM, 14m asset, to go to, out of all the places, Cardiff? The place where Bellamy had said million times in the pst, he wanted to end his career?

No I'm saying the whole going on strike to get out of a club where he actually said he'd wash boots, to go to a championship club is bullshit.

I'm certain Cardiff was a favourable choice for him out of the few we left him with, but I have noe doubt he'd have rather stayed. Do you doubt this?

[Original Dub]

fuck it, you may as well lock the topic.

If saying that Bellamy would have been a fantastic option to have now compares to Sibierski or Ireland after he went downhill rapidly, then I fucking give up.

You bunch of fucking retards.