snow...

[Beefymcfc]

Sat in the airport for 9hrs yday, 2 of which were actually spent on a plane and still didn't make it to manc! Booked on a half 10 flight this morning so fingers crossed!

I fckin hate snow!!!

Good luck mate. I've got a few people flying in but they are grounded in Belfast and Hanover. Not sure if it's their airport or not though.

cheers mate. Atm our flight from Belfast city is going ahead. Only flights from here that are delayed are the London ones

Yeah, there's was into Heathrow yesterday and there's still no move. The Shandy Sipping Puffs, they just can't handle it.

[MR IMAINEROAD]

D'ya know, it always makes me chuckle when facebook is awash with "sweden/norway/finland/northern canada etc etc don't experience closed roads/railways and airports over 2 feet of snow, Broken Britain etc etc...."

That's because they've invested hundreds of millions/billions of tax payers money in infrastructure and equipment, because it snows loads there. Can you imagine: "yes, we're doubling your council tax to pay for equipment that will get you to work half an hour earlier on those 2 mornings a year it's a bit snowy". FFS. Britain has a perfectly good system for dealing with this, it's called "a day off".

come off it . it's not expensive to attach 20 snow plough shovels to the front of 20 four wheel drive trucks at london heathrow . Furthermore, it's not like england gets metres of snow at one time.

How about converting combine harvesters to snow ploughs. Shouldn't cost an arm and a leg?

[Beefymcfc]

D'ya know, it always makes me chuckle when facebook is awash with "sweden/norway/finland/northern canada etc etc don't experience closed roads/railways and airports over 2 feet of snow, Broken Britain etc etc...."

That's because they've invested hundreds of millions/billions of tax payers money in infrastructure and equipment, because it snows loads there. Can you imagine: "yes, we're doubling your council tax to pay for equipment that will get you to work half an hour earlier on those 2 mornings a year it's a bit snowy". FFS. Britain has a perfectly good system for dealing with this, it's called "a day off".

come off it . it's not expensive to attach 20 snow plough shovels to the front of 20 four wheel drive trucks at london heathrow . Furthermore, it's not like england gets metres of snow at one time.

How about converting combine harvesters to snow ploughs. Shouldn't cost an arm and a leg?

Why would they have combine harvesters at an airport?

[Im_Spartacus]

Why do we not have heated runways?

[Im_Spartacus]

Why don't we have heated runways?

[Beefymcfc]

Why don't we have heated runways?

I was thinking exactly the same.

[Beefymcfc]

Why don't we have heated runways?

I was thinking exactly the same.

[Dameerto]

D'ya know, it always makes me chuckle when facebook is awash with "sweden/norway/finland/northern canada etc etc don't experience closed roads/railways and airports over 2 feet of snow, Broken Britain etc etc...."

That's because they've invested hundreds of millions/billions of tax payers money in infrastructure and equipment, because it snows loads there. Can you imagine: "yes, we're doubling your council tax to pay for equipment that will get you to work half an hour earlier on those 2 mornings a year it's a bit snowy". FFS. Britain has a perfectly good system for dealing with this, it's called "a day off".

come off it . it's not expensive to attach 20 snow plough shovels to the front of 20 four wheel drive trucks at london heathrow . Furthermore, it's not like england gets metres of snow at one time.

Disruption at Heathrow was due to limited arrivals/departures caused by FOG rather than snow - snow had very little impact (if any) on delays. Although they had to keep alternating between runways while they cleared the other(s) now I come to think of it, which wouldn't help any backlog from the fog.

[Pandaslap]

I was thinking exactly the same.

I once met the press/crisis officer for Manchester airport group and asked him this very question. Other people have got the answer here, it's a matter of cost and the fact that the main disruption to services if from the fog and the weather conditions in the air rather than the snow on the runway. Mostly it's too expensive to bother for the few days a year it's needed.

[ross.mcfc]

It's been the most beautiful sunny winter days here in Glasgow the past week. Doing my nut in hearing about the UK snow chaos.

Nothing makes me more ashamed to be British than a bit of snow in the South.

[Arjan Van Schotte]

D'ya know, it always makes me chuckle when facebook is awash with "sweden/norway/finland/northern canada etc etc don't experience closed roads/railways and airports over 2 feet of snow, Broken Britain etc etc...."

That's because they've invested hundreds of millions/billions of tax payers money in infrastructure and equipment, because it snows loads there. Can you imagine: "yes, we're doubling your council tax to pay for equipment that will get you to work half an hour earlier on those 2 mornings a year it's a bit snowy". FFS. Britain has a perfectly good system for dealing with this, it's called "a day off".

come off it . it's not expensive to attach 20 snow plough shovels to the front of 20 four wheel drive trucks at london heathrow .

Heathrow have spent $46M+ in the last 2 years on cold weather equipment, hopefully they got more than a few snow ploughs for that...:)

as has been said, many of the cancellations at heathrow have been caused by planes not arriving from other airports and fog. as one of the busiest airports in the world, the slightest disruption will obviously have massive knock on effects innit!

Furthermore, it's not like england gets metres of snow at one time.

exactly!!

[Cocacolajojo1]

D'ya know, it always makes me chuckle when facebook is awash with "sweden/norway/finland/northern canada etc etc don't experience closed roads/railways and airports over 2 feet of snow, Broken Britain etc etc...."

That's because they've invested hundreds of millions/billions of tax payers money in infrastructure and equipment, because it snows loads there. Can you imagine: "yes, we're doubling your council tax to pay for equipment that will get you to work half an hour earlier on those 2 mornings a year it's a bit snowy". FFS. Britain has a perfectly good system for dealing with this, it's called "a day off".

And it's money well spent!

[sandman]

United however are away at Spurs on sunday and they played a game midweek, whats the betting the snow is an excuse to postpone until a more convenient time for Baconface.

Now how could I have predicted over 48 hours into the future...

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/8417381/Snow-could-force-Spurs-to-call-off-Manchester-United-clash-on-Sunday-2.50pm-pitch-inspection

[mr_nool]

United however are away at Spurs on sunday and they played a game midweek, whats the betting the snow is an excuse to postpone until a more convenient time for Baconface.

Now how could I have predicted over 48 hours into the future...

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/8417381/Snow-could-force-Spurs-to-call-off-Manchester-United-clash-on-Sunday-2.50pm-pitch-inspection

WTF? It's not looking all that bad in West London. Shirley it can't be that much worse a few miles north east?

[AG7]

WTF? It's not looking all that bad in West London. Shirley it can't be that much worse a few miles north east?

Just announced after the pitch inspection by Foy and Fergie ... It's Game On today!

Sky just mentioned Fergie was out there too, specifically him, no mention if AVB was out on pitch too or anything else like that ...

Fuckers (Foy & Fergie) thought might as well play today as they are already there and later it'll crowd their schedule further with FA cup and CL ...

[sandman]

WTF? It's not looking all that bad in West London. Shirley it can't be that much worse a few miles north east?

Just announced after the pitch inspection by Foy and Fergie ... It's Game On today!

Sky just mentioned Fergie was out there too, specifically him, no mention if AVB was out on pitch too or anything else like that ...

Fuckers (Foy & Fergie) thought might as well play today as they are already there and later it'll crowd their schedule further with FA cup and CL ...

Maybe Foy has promised a penalty and a spurs red if Fergie lets it go ahead?

[Ted Hughes]

D'ya know, it always makes me chuckle when facebook is awash with "sweden/norway/finland/northern canada etc etc don't experience closed roads/railways and airports over 2 feet of snow, Broken Britain etc etc...."

That's because they've invested hundreds of millions/billions of tax payers money in infrastructure and equipment, because it snows loads there. Can you imagine: "yes, we're doubling your council tax to pay for equipment that will get you to work half an hour earlier on those 2 mornings a year it's a bit snowy". FFS. Britain has a perfectly good system for dealing with this, it's called "a day off".

come off it . it's not expensive to attach 20 snow plough shovels to the front of 20 four wheel drive trucks at london heathrow .

Heathrow have spent $46M+ in the last 2 years on cold weather equipment, hopefully they got more than a few snow ploughs for that...:)

as has been said, many of the cancellations at heathrow have been caused by planes not arriving from other airports and fog. as one of the busiest airports in the world, the slightest disruption will obviously have massive knock on effects innit!

Furthermore, it's not like england gets metres of snow at one time.

exactly!!

I travelled by areoplane during snowy conditions in Norway some years ago & the flight was delayed for hours, they had to keep de-icing the plane whilst they decided what to do, then they decided to give it a go & managed to get the (probably 1940's DC-3) shed off the ground, then they decided it was too risky to make any stops other than the final one as all the airports were snowed in, then they changed their minds & landed the fucker at one place, skidding sideways on the fucking runway, (he piliot got out & had a jolly good laugh at his skidmarks but the bloke sat next to me had skidmarks of a different colour) then we took off again like fucking James Bond during an explosion, & plummeted on to the final airport, spiralling down like a leaf in a gale & finally he dumped it down into the snow like an elephant falling out of a tree.

The 'day off' option seemed fair enough to me at 10,000 feet, looking down at rocks & snow . No way would they get away with that kind of behaviour over here.

[Scatman]

D'ya know, it always makes me chuckle when facebook is awash with "sweden/norway/finland/northern canada etc etc don't experience closed roads/railways and airports over 2 feet of snow, Broken Britain etc etc...."

That's because they've invested hundreds of millions/billions of tax payers money in infrastructure and equipment, because it snows loads there. Can you imagine: "yes, we're doubling your council tax to pay for equipment that will get you to work half an hour earlier on those 2 mornings a year it's a bit snowy". FFS. Britain has a perfectly good system for dealing with this, it's called "a day off".

come off it . it's not expensive to attach 20 snow plough shovels to the front of 20 four wheel drive trucks at london heathrow .

Heathrow have spent $46M+ in the last 2 years on cold weather equipment, hopefully they got more than a few snow ploughs for that...:)

as has been said, many of the cancellations at heathrow have been caused by planes not arriving from other airports and fog. as one of the busiest airports in the world, the slightest disruption will obviously have massive knock on effects innit!

Furthermore, it's not like england gets metres of snow at one time.

exactly!!

I travelled by areoplane during snowy conditions in Norway some years ago & the flight was delayed for hours, they had to keep de-icing the plane whilst they decided what to do, then they decided to give it a go & managed to get the (probably 1940's DC-3) shed off the ground, then they decided it was too risky to make any stops other than the final one as all the airports were snowed in, then they changed their minds & landed the fucker at one place, skidding sideways on the fucking runway, (he piliot got out & had a jolly good laugh at his skidmarks but the bloke sat next to me had skidmarks of a different colour) then we took off again like fucking James Bond during an explosion, & plummeted on to the final airport, spiralling down like a leaf in a gale & finally he dumped it down into the snow like an elephant falling out of a tree.

The 'day off' option seemed fair enough to me at 10,000 feet, looking down at rocks & snow . No way would they get away with that kind of behaviour over here.

If he'd have been flying that plane in Munich we'd all have been spared