What's the real problem?

[Ted Hughes]

We need a specialist holding midfielder against ten defenders ? Lescott & Garcia were stood in QPRs half on many occasions.

Scholes would have pissed it last night at the age he is now, never mind at 25.

scholes ? no he would not . Stop making silly statements .

I'll make as many silly statements as I want thank you very much, & I stand by that one.

[Risby]

I think the real problem is speed! The speed of some of our players, the speed of our thinking when playing against a back line of 9 and the speed of our play.
When we do play with speed, teams can not cope with us and it is then when we usually break them down. Unfortunately this is not all the time.
If we could just add a tad more speed to the areas above, we would destroy near enough every team in the PL.

[Cit.revenge]

How bad are rags at back how the hell we lose against them

[Ted Hughes]

How bad are rags at back how the hell we lose against them

We defended just as badly on the day unfotunately. We outclassed them in most aspects.

[Cit.revenge]

rags did not pass half 5 times whole second half but thy will win fuckers

[Cit.revenge]

hahaha not one second more i hate fuckin rags so much my wish in life is to see them drop like Liverpool in my life time , fuckers

[Beefymcfc]

I reckon Dzeko is the problem.

And Kolarov.

[clawbaggio]

We need to get used to teams parking the bus cos its going to happen a lot more before the season is out.
We could do with a bit more width. Last nights game would have been ideal for Kolarov because there wasn't much defending to be done and at least if puts the ball into the box whereas Clichy hardly ever does.
We could do with the strikers taking a gamble in the box more. The Rags just fire the ball into the 6 yard box time after time and often they get lucky. Half the time it goes in off a defender or Ricochets favourably for them. Was it 2 seasons ago that O.G. Was second top scorer for the cunts?
Apparently Soton had a right good go at them tonight and they were hanging on at the end. No team has a go at us like that, they're happy to just sit back

[Beefymcfc]

Premier League Champions last year, currently 2nd this year, let's tear up the plan as it's obviously not working.

We're shit and we know we are.......................

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Premier League Champions last year, currently 2nd this year, let's tear up the plan as it's obviously not working.

We're shit and we know we are.......................

7 points off top and out of the CL , If you're happy with that fair enough. But others aren't.

[Beefymcfc]

Premier League Champions last year, currently 2nd this year, let's tear up the plan as it's obviously not working.

We're shit and we know we are.......................

7 points off top and out of the CL , If you're happy with that fair enough. But others aren't.

That is a different debate, you are now talking about the manager. If that's the case it shouldn't be distiguised and the thread title should state the obvious.

We are out of the CL but have been doing well in the PL of late. We lose (yes, I'm taking the piss) one game against a team who have just beaten the 3rd in the league, drawn against the 4th in the league and haven't lost in the Prem this month; an away game at that.

I hate the veiled bullshit, just get that 'Mancini Out' thread going. I'd probably debate it then instead of some of the shite that is being posted.

[leewonpen]

Sometimes we should vary the play. We have all the possession and they have 10 players behind the ball. Why not let them have the ball and hit them on the break. The rags do this all the time and score more than us. Let them think they've got a chance then hit them on the counter. I would play the possession game against are immediate rivals, because they're more dangerous and they wont defend with 10 men behind the ball

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

I don't really want to single out anyone but Nasri is a massive problem for me. I'll try explain.

Basically we're not creating clear cut chances. As you say, we're had 7 shots on target from 37 attempts returning just one goal. How many of those attempts off target where glaring misses? I'd say very few.

We're facing teams who basically set up to shut us down, QPR did it tonight with one up front and a natural full back on the right wing and others do it week in, week out. Reading at home also springs to minds.

That presents a challenge - find a way to break them down. Right now we have Silva returning to form but he is only our playmaker in the middle of the park, stop him and you essentially stop City as an attacking threat.

That's where Nasri *should* be stepping up but isn't. He has been bloody awful this season, a passenger who offers little or nothing in possession of the ball. He has the ability, no question about that, but he's not performing.

Throw in the fact that we have no wingers to genuinely make the opposition shit themselves and you have a very limited side that's easily found out.

While we're a bit short up front by selling Mario, we could have six strikers on the park and it would still be no use if the service is shit. That's the biggest issue for me right now.

I'll go back to summer and saying that we only really needed creative player in the middle to take pressure off of Silva. In the end we couldn't find anyone and went in the season with Nasri. That was MAJOR mistake and we are paying the price for it.

Fully agree with you.

[Ted Hughes]

Premier League Champions last year, currently 2nd this year, let's tear up the plan as it's obviously not working.

We're shit and we know we are.......................

7 points off top and out of the CL , If you're happy with that fair enough. But others aren't.

That is a different debate, you are now talking about the manager. If that's the case it shouldn't be distiguised and the thread title should state the obvious.

We are out of the CL but have been doing well in the PL of late. We lose (yes, I'm taking the piss) one game against a team who have just beaten the 3rd in the league, drawn against the 4th in the league and haven't lost in the Prem this month; an away game at that.

I hate the veiled bullshit, just get that 'Mancini Out' thread going. I'd probably debate it then instead of some of the shite that is being posted.

There is a 3rd option instead of sacking the manager: IMPROVE THE TEAM.

Why does everything have to be dragged down to talking about sacking Mancini every time someone suggests us actually getting better ? Mancini will probably talk AGAIN about improving the team this week, but you don't want him to. Why don't you want us to get better ?

[john@staustell]

The way we play percentage football is better than anyone I can think of except maybe Barca. You just know we are going to dominate possession, grind the oppo down, not give them a chance (hardly) and sooner or later get the breakthrough.

Now the first part of the plan is working again (clean sheets) but the chances are being missed at the other end. Hard to blame the manager for that. Lescott for example should have scored early on at QPR. Keep plugging away we'll be fine. Scum just dont play like that - they are more vulnerable and also weaker in midfield.

[tikatakamcfc]

Here's a little stat that for all of you, regarding our strikers.
It seems that Aguero/Tevez partnership is not providing us as much as it seemed, to me at least.

Someone should maybe analyse Tevez/Dzeko and Aguero/Dzeko starts to see what happens.

[Bleed_Blue]

Since we are creating less opporunities, why not go with single striker and an additional midfielder

May work when Yaya is back, Garcia taking his current position and Yaya, Milner, Silva in midfield we might have better chances

[Ted Hughes]

Here's a little stat that for all of you, regarding our strikers.
It seems that Aguero/Tevez partnership is not providing us as much as it seemed, to me at least.

Someone should maybe analyse Tevez/Dzeko and Aguero/Dzeko starts to see what happens.

The stats you have put up for this season say that we have won 6 drawn 1 lost 1 with Tevez & Aguero, won 5 drawn 4 with the other combinations (excluding Balotelli). So they have been the most successful partnership.

[Cocacolajojo1]

Here's a little stat that for all of you, regarding our strikers.
It seems that Aguero/Tevez partnership is not providing us as much as it seemed, to me at least.

Someone should maybe analyse Tevez/Dzeko and Aguero/Dzeko starts to see what happens.

What does wins deserved mean?

[Cit.revenge]

Here's a little stat that for all of you, regarding our strikers.
It seems that Aguero/Tevez partnership is not providing us as much as it seemed, to me at least.

Someone should maybe analyse Tevez/Dzeko and Aguero/Dzeko starts to see what happens.

The stats you have put up for this season say that we have won 6 drawn 1 lost 1 with Tevez & Aguero, won 5 drawn 4 with the other combinations (excluding Balotelli). So they have been the most successful partnership.

Ted i cant belive that u overlook that from that 5 win u say that Tevez and Aguero won for us, two win in those game Dzeko us sub score for win and 1 Barry score for win, so how they have 5 wins and 4 draws when other people score wining goals , i dont say who is better who is worse, dont turn this on Dzeko issue i just cant see how u cant miss that. And somebody on that statistic write u see Tevez and Aguero start 9 games earn 3 victory . Maybe u just joke i cant tell any more.