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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby Beefymcfc » Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:51 pm

Risby wrote:Yaya has been our problem in a lot of games. Great attacking threat when in the final third, but defensively, he is often (not always) too lackadaisical.

He did neither on Saturday, even his passing was off.

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Beefymcfc wrote:I honestly thought Yaya was the problem on Saturday.

Let's be honest.
Mancini assessment of the game was poor to say the least.... Yaya was just arrived from a chill-to hot-to chill double jump and Barry was exhausted. I still cannot make me head on that: Bob can truly be as stubborn as a mule, when his key men are concerned, at times.

And that's why Yaya shou've been on the bench. You can imagine how the other players felt when they are benched for him to go straight back in.

However, I don't think that was Mancini's fault. I'm absolutely certain that due to clauses and bonuses, Yaya plays if he is fit.
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby simon12 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:48 am

Followed the muen link and there are too many stories for me to be arsed reading at this time of night!!!

Kolo not at CB and Jimmy dropped are fucking poor decisions.

Starting with Edin???? our results with him starting compared to him coming off the bench (stat or not) are mind boggling.

I have not been through all the threads as I have had something else on that could not be avoided but have heard stories re Carlos...Is that shit true??
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby Beefymcfc » Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:09 am

simon12 wrote:Followed the muen link and there are too many stories for me to be arsed reading at this time of night!!!

Kolo not at CB and Jimmy dropped are fucking poor decisions.

Starting with Edin???? our results with him starting compared to him coming off the bench (stat or not) are mind boggling.

I have not been through all the threads as I have had something else on that could not be avoided but have heard stories re Carlos...Is that shit true??

You tell us.
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby Socrates » Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:26 am

Seems to be a consensus that we shouldn't have played Yaya first game back and that we should have played Kolo first game back. Easy this retrospective fantasy management game...
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby Hazy2 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:55 am

Socrates wrote:Seems to be a consensus that we shouldn't have played Yaya first game back and that we should have played Kolo first game back. Easy this retrospective fantasy management game...


We see this from the manager after games where it has gone tits up, Dortmund at home was the players fault. He used Garcia at qpr as nasty failed a fitness test on the pitch. Ok no problem they had 1 upfront and it was a diddle, the saints have given everyone a game at home. No Milner in a game that was going to be full on for nasri was his mess. Slating hart in public is just wrong, fine to give it him face to face in the dressing room. We look crap the players look like the fun has gone and if he wants performances he needs to up his game as much as the players. As his tactics and selections since qPr have been rubbish.
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby Socrates » Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:03 am

Hazy2 wrote:
Socrates wrote:Seems to be a consensus that we shouldn't have played Yaya first game back and that we should have played Kolo first game back. Easy this retrospective fantasy management game...


We see this from the manager after games where it has gone tits up, Dortmund at home was the players fault. He used Garcia at qpr as nasty failed a fitness test on the pitch. Ok no problem they had 1 upfront and it was a diddle, the saints have given everyone a game at home. No Milner in a game that was going to be full on for nasri was his mess. Slating hart in public is just wrong, fine to give it him face to face in the dressing room. We look crap the players look like the fun has gone and if he wants performances he needs to up his game as much as the players. As his tactics and selections since qPr have been rubbish.


Three bad games Col and you are after his blood. Even ignoring the fact that before that we won 6 on the bounce, you want the blood of the manager who delivered us our first silverware in 35 years and our first title in 44 years! Get a grip.
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby Green & Blue » Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:07 am

Socrates wrote:Seems to be a consensus that we shouldn't have played Yaya first game back and that we should have played Kolo first game back. Easy this retrospective fantasy management game...


Very valid point.I don't recall anyone having any qualms about Yaya starting prior to the game.
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby Socrates » Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:21 am

Green & Blue wrote:
Socrates wrote:Seems to be a consensus that we shouldn't have played Yaya first game back and that we should have played Kolo first game back. Easy this retrospective fantasy management game...


Very valid point.I don't recall anyone having any qualms about Yaya starting prior to the game.


Aha, imagine the complaints there would be if we'd had the same performance with Yaya on the bench and if Garcia had been dropped for Kolo after being many people's MOTM when played in that that position before.
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby Blue Since 76 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:51 am

Socrates wrote:
Aha, imagine the complaints there would be if we'd had the same performance with Yaya on the bench and if Garcia had been dropped for Kolo after being many people's MOTM when played in that that position before.


At least if Yaya was on the bench we could have brought him on. He NEVER gets taken off unless he's injured, no matter how poorly he's playing.

Since we only had two strikers, maybe we shouldn't have started with both of them, as we had no way to change the game when we needed to. And the last two years shows us we're much better in the last 30 minutes than the first 30.

Why play Nasri? Ever?

Why drop Milner as he always does?

Why basically tell Lescott you don't like him for 18 months and them have to play him?

Why blank every player you take off, apart from Tevez? He even did it to Silva on Saturday.

I appreciate I'm wasting my time, as you think the sun emanates from him, but he's under performing and HIS team is under performing.
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby City64 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:14 am

Blue Since 76 wrote:
Socrates wrote:
Aha, imagine the complaints there would be if we'd had the same performance with Yaya on the bench and if Garcia had been dropped for Kolo after being many people's MOTM when played in that that position before.


At least if Yaya was on the bench we could have brought him on. He NEVER gets taken off unless he's injured, no matter how poorly he's playing.

Since we only had two strikers, maybe we shouldn't have started with both of them, as we had no way to change the game when we needed to. And the last two years shows us we're much better in the last 30 minutes than the first 30.

Why play Nasri? Ever?

Why drop Milner as he always does?

Why basically tell Lescott you don't like him for 18 months and them have to play him?

Why blank every player you take off, apart from Tevez? He even did it to Silva on Saturday.

I appreciate I'm wasting my time, as you think the sun emanates from him, but he's under performing and HIS team is under performing.



Saturday at Southampton was a NON PERFORMANCE of huge proportions and it seems the squad have had a few days off to get over it while europes elite are battling out in the CL which sorta makes things even worse imo.

Noticed Dortmund got dicked at home 1-4 by Hamburg last saturday , does that make anyone feel a tiny slightest bit better ?
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby Green & Blue » Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:25 am

City64 wrote:
Blue Since 76 wrote:
Socrates wrote:
Aha, imagine the complaints there would be if we'd had the same performance with Yaya on the bench and if Garcia had been dropped for Kolo after being many people's MOTM when played in that that position before.


At least if Yaya was on the bench we could have brought him on. He NEVER gets taken off unless he's injured, no matter how poorly he's playing.

Since we only had two strikers, maybe we shouldn't have started with both of them, as we had no way to change the game when we needed to. And the last two years shows us we're much better in the last 30 minutes than the first 30.

Why play Nasri? Ever?

Why drop Milner as he always does?

Why basically tell Lescott you don't like him for 18 months and them have to play him?

Why blank every player you take off, apart from Tevez? He even did it to Silva on Saturday.

I appreciate I'm wasting my time, as you think the sun emanates from him, but he's under performing and HIS team is under performing.



Saturday at Southampton was a NON PERFORMANCE of huge proportions and it seems the squad have had a few days off to get over it while europes elite are battling out in the CL which sorta makes things even worse imo.

Noticed Dortmund got dicked at home 1-4 by Hamburg last saturday , does that make anyone feel a tiny slightest bit better ?


Why would Dortmund getting beaten make anyone feel better?
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby Fidel Castro » Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:31 am

City64 wrote:
Saturday at Southampton was a NON PERFORMANCE of huge proportions and it seems the squad have had a few days off to get over it while europes elite are battling out in the CL which sorta makes things even worse imo.

Noticed Dortmund got dicked at home 1-4 by Hamburg last saturday , does that make anyone feel a tiny slightest bit better ?


No it makes me feel worse. If they were dicking teams every week, it would make me feel better. Now it just makes me feel like we are shitter than Hamburg somehow
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby City64 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:39 am

Green & Blue wrote:
City64 wrote:
Blue Since 76 wrote:
Socrates wrote:
Aha, imagine the complaints there would be if we'd had the same performance with Yaya on the bench and if Garcia had been dropped for Kolo after being many people's MOTM when played in that that position before.


At least if Yaya was on the bench we could have brought him on. He NEVER gets taken off unless he's injured, no matter how poorly he's playing.

Since we only had two strikers, maybe we shouldn't have started with both of them, as we had no way to change the game when we needed to. And the last two years shows us we're much better in the last 30 minutes than the first 30.

Why play Nasri? Ever?

Why drop Milner as he always does?

Why basically tell Lescott you don't like him for 18 months and them have to play him?

Why blank every player you take off, apart from Tevez? He even did it to Silva on Saturday.

I appreciate I'm wasting my time, as you think the sun emanates from him, but he's under performing and HIS team is under performing.



Saturday at Southampton was a NON PERFORMANCE of huge proportions and it seems the squad have had a few days off to get over it while europes elite are battling out in the CL which sorta makes things even worse imo.

Noticed Dortmund got dicked at home 1-4 by Hamburg last saturday , does that make anyone feel a tiny slightest bit better ?


Why would Dortmund getting beaten make anyone feel better?


Superlative sarcasim on my behalf mate.

Dortmund dicked us twice not too long ago.
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby AG7 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:56 am

Something has been bugging me since the start of the Southampton game ... not sure if anyone also got annoyed by this. Why was Yaya given the captain's armband for the game? He was slotted right back in, much have been debated he shouldn't have been, he had a shit game but I questioned this when he led the line-up out ... Fine, Kompany was injured but then Zaba was playing and Zaba has captained us in previous games when Kompany is not available. Why does Mancini lick Yaya's black balls so much?? The body language didn't seem right of the players walking out and when they showed them in tunnel. Yaya's body language there was pretty arrogant as he moved past our players and lined up in front ... and I couldn't help but notice Zaba was looking down as if ashamed or trying not to show his face on any camera. Could this have been the reason our team was not so much a team early on and then it all went downhill there on ... maybe I am reading too much into this, but it sure as hell annoyed me.
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby Alex Sapphire » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:58 am

AG7 wrote:Why does Mancini lick Yaya's black balls so much??


are you sure?
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby blues-clues » Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:16 am

AG7 wrote:Why does Mancini lick Yaya's black balls so much??


Because they taste of spaghetti bollocknaise?

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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:41 am

Socrates wrote:Seems to be a consensus that we shouldn't have played Yaya first game back and that we should have played Kolo first game back. Easy this retrospective fantasy management game...


Because the situation desperately required a centre half but not a deep centre midfielder & at centre half, you don't have to leg it up and down the pitch for 90 mins, just mainly be alert in one area, so it obviously won't be as much of a problem if you are a bit tired.

And of course there was the option not to use Yaya in a job where part of his game would be tracking back. If he was determind that Yaya should play, then have some athletic cover behind him rather than expecting him to do something he doesn't even do when he is fit, but instead of that we get Nasri.

He fucked up.

Why people are even attempting to pretend he didn't, is a bit baffling. It's like a religion or a political party defending their ideals rather than a bog standard football discussion.
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby Cit.revenge » Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:02 pm

I just look best scorers list , do u know we have only 3 players in list of 40 players , how we are second at all ?
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby City64 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:06 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Socrates wrote:Seems to be a consensus that we shouldn't have played Yaya first game back and that we should have played Kolo first game back. Easy this retrospective fantasy management game...


Because the situation desperately required a centre half but not a deep centre midfielder & at centre half, you don't have to leg it up and down the pitch for 90 mins, just mainly be alert in one area, so it obviously won't be as much of a problem if you are a bit tired.

And of course there was the option not to use Yaya in a job where part of his game would be tracking back. If he was determind that Yaya should play, then have some athletic cover behind him rather than expecting him to do something he doesn't even do when he is fit, but instead of that we get Nasri.

He fucked up.

Why people are even attempting to pretend he didn't, is a bit baffling. It's like a religion or a political party defending their ideals rather than a bog standard football discussion.



So what about the two own goals ? Joe Hart virtually threw one in his own net and Gaz Baz finished better than Van Pussy ever could.
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Re: There Was Something Very Wrong ...

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:08 pm

City64 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Socrates wrote:Seems to be a consensus that we shouldn't have played Yaya first game back and that we should have played Kolo first game back. Easy this retrospective fantasy management game...


Because the situation desperately required a centre half but not a deep centre midfielder & at centre half, you don't have to leg it up and down the pitch for 90 mins, just mainly be alert in one area, so it obviously won't be as much of a problem if you are a bit tired.

And of course there was the option not to use Yaya in a job where part of his game would be tracking back. If he was determind that Yaya should play, then have some athletic cover behind him rather than expecting him to do something he doesn't even do when he is fit, but instead of that we get Nasri.

He fucked up.

Why people are even attempting to pretend he didn't, is a bit baffling. It's like a religion or a political party defending their ideals rather than a bog standard football discussion.



So what about the two own goals ? Joe Hart virtually threw one in his own net and Gaz Baz finished better than Van Pussy ever could.


What do you want me to say about them ?
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