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Re: Is it possible for the Count to get the sack?

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Tue Nov 11, 2014 2:18 pm

Hazy2 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Chelsea are a bit better than us, so far, this season. After being free to spend a load of money to become so. If Costa & John Terry get injured, they will probably be worse than us, in spite of being free to spend a load of money to become top dog.

That's how close it is in the real world. If they win it by 15 points they could just as easily finish 15 points behind us next season, after we sign a couple.

That's the real world. Everything else is just ott bollocks.


And if we are close enough to cash in fine, one more defeat IMO and we are done if they win that weekend, I had no fear of them after seeing them early on, we have knife edged the situation. I go to the games with lads who all say the same we are fragile and Jose knows it, he has one team to get rid off us and the league is done. He is bullying teams,we are getting bullied as we saw Saturday. I am not that bothered if I am honest I SEE THE BIG PICTURE, JUST THAT TWAT HAS DONE WHAT HE DID LAST TIME! WITH THE SCUM ! KILLED THE RACE I would just love to see toughness from all involved and if they win it they earn it, Simples.


In a strange way, if we were to lose that one more game, the pressure, nervousness, fragility or whatever that we are currently experiencing, might reduce to some extent with the knowledge that the League has gone.

This might then mean we relax more and start to play our 'proper' football and to do ourselves justice. This might allow us to finish the season more handsomely and, perhaps, end up in second place with, hopefully, a good FA Cup run to give us something to enjoy.
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Re: Is it possible for the Count to get the sack?

Postby Hazy2 » Tue Nov 11, 2014 2:50 pm

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Chelsea are a bit better than us, so far, this season. After being free to spend a load of money to become so. If Costa & John Terry get injured, they will probably be worse than us, in spite of being free to spend a load of money to become top dog.

That's how close it is in the real world. If they win it by 15 points they could just as easily finish 15 points behind us next season, after we sign a couple.

That's the real world. Everything else is just ott bollocks.


And if we are close enough to cash in fine, one more defeat IMO and we are done if they win that weekend, I had no fear of them after seeing them early on, we have knife edged the situation. I go to the games with lads who all say the same we are fragile and Jose knows it, he has one team to get rid off us and the league is done. He is bullying teams,we are getting bullied as we saw Saturday. I am not that bothered if I am honest I SEE THE BIG PICTURE, JUST THAT TWAT HAS DONE WHAT HE DID LAST TIME! WITH THE SCUM ! KILLED THE RACE I would just love to see toughness from all involved and if they win it they earn it, Simples.


In a strange way, if we were to lose that one more game, the pressure, nervousness, fragility or whatever that we are currently experiencing, might reduce to some extent with the knowledge that the League has gone.

This might then mean we relax more and start to play our 'proper' football and to do ourselves justice. This might allow us to finish the season more handsomely and, perhaps, end up in second place with, hopefully, a good FA Cup run to give us something to enjoy.


I wonder is that post a cut from just before the Wigan game mate.
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Re: Is it possible for the Count to get the sack?

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Nov 11, 2014 3:00 pm

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Ted Hughes wrote:How does anyone explain the same shit when it happens to Ferguson or Mourinho, which it does ?

It could still happen to Chelsea.

There are two choices. You accept that it happens & try to sort it out, even if that means next season, because we have proved we can play a lot better than this & indeed better than anyone else is currently doing or you assume that everything we've done so far was a fluke, we were unworthy champions & had it all wrong, & sack the manager.


Let us hope the game plans for Swans and Saints are water tight is all I want to add to this !


What difference would any game plan make, if half the players play like shit ?

People got the plan they asked for vs QPR & it made no difference. Last season, there were times when we could have played that game with five forwards plus Yaya, & won 6-0.

Would Real Madrid go there & struggle because they had 3 up top & Modric in midfield ? But the same team with no confidence, players struggling to string 3 passes together without overhitting the ball, Marcello bombing forward all the time & a kid at centre back, would struggle just like we did & just hope Ronaldo rescued them.

Too much bollocks has been talked about tactics etc. Our players have not been performing this season, whatever the lineup & whatever the formation, & they know it.
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Re: Is it possible for the Count to get the sack?

Postby Hazy2 » Tue Nov 11, 2014 3:58 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:How does anyone explain the same shit when it happens to Ferguson or Mourinho, which it does ?

It could still happen to Chelsea.

There are two choices. You accept that it happens & try to sort it out, even if that means next season, because we have proved we can play a lot better than this & indeed better than anyone else is currently doing or you assume that everything we've done so far was a fluke, we were unworthy champions & had it all wrong, & sack the manager.


Let us hope the game plans for Swans and Saints are water tight is all I want to add to this !


What difference would any game plan make, if half the players play like shit ?

People got the plan they asked for vs QPR & it made no difference. Last season, there were times when we could have played that game with five forwards plus Yaya, & won 6-0.

Would Real Madrid go there & struggle because they had 3 up top & Modric in midfield ? But the same team with no confidence, players struggling to string 3 passes together without overhitting the ball, Marcello bombing forward all the time & a kid at centre back, would struggle just like we did & just hope Ronaldo rescued them.

Too much bollocks has been talked about tactics etc. Our players have not been performing this season, whatever the lineup & whatever the formation, & they know it.


Brian Kidd could have said the following. DO NOT GO SHORT IN YOUR OWN HALF THAT CAN WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE CONTROL OF THE FUCKING GAME, REMEMBER BOYS THIS IS LOTUS ROAD, SMALLER THAN MOST OF YOUR GARDENS. DUNNIE HATES LITTLE FUCKERS BUZZING AROUND SO LETS TURN HIM AND GET KUN INTO THE GAME AS OFTEN AS WE CAN. THEY KEY IS STAYING COMPACT AND PICKING THE FUCKERS OFF, BUT WE HAVE TO SET THE TONE, NO PASSENGERS AND NO RISKS EARLY DOORS. TEAM MEETING OVER. what the fuck else was they expecting a quiet stroll around West London in the rain and wind. 10 mins in Ted a message of what the fuck are you doing, get your fucking shape as we planned and stop trying to play pretty football in your own fucking half. Today is the wrong day for that. The same last Wed Yaya drop off and make it more solid in the middle we can win this when it settles down, sorted. No we stick to the same stupid not working plans.
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Re: Is it possible for the Count to get the sack?

Postby City64 » Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:59 pm

getdressedmctavish wrote:Ted, I think you've missed the point here. As I've said, ya ya is our key player and as you note, yesterday he was our second best, but only I think when he dropped back into his deep role. Few can do what he does which is why, when he doesn't do it, we are shit. We have not found a system to allow him to do what he does best and yet compensate for his deficiencies which have loomed large this year. Though we have won two championships we have not completely imposed ourselves and in the Chumps league we have been found out by sides who negate Ya Ya(or who are all round better)As you pointed out the Count addressed the problem by playing the F twins together and pushing Ya Ya forwards. The result was we came under the cosh from a crap team and failed to produce when Ya Ya wasn't pulling the strings. The Counts changes show you its the problem to be addressed by whoever the manager is, and the outcome, a draw with a poor team, that the solution has not been found.What ever people think, I am sure the fact is the owner expects us to compete very closely for the league and chumps and we are not, and the problem I have described is I believe at the heart of it.He's still better than King Colin, lol

Absolutely this . Yes we still need Yaya but Yaya at his best , he has been absolutely immense during his career with us , total world class last season . Age now is not on his side , we have probably seen the best of him so the club and Pellegrini should be making future plans without him imho . But this is the problem Pellegrini is stuck with for now , let's hope we go on a decent run , all the players regain there confidence and form and Chelski hit the buffers ;-) . However it all pans out Pellegrini is safe until the summer but our ageing squad needs an overhaul next summer with younger world class players needed .
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Re: Is it possible for the Count to get the sack?

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Nov 12, 2014 3:35 am

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Ted Hughes wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:How does anyone explain the same shit when it happens to Ferguson or Mourinho, which it does ?

It could still happen to Chelsea.

There are two choices. You accept that it happens & try to sort it out, even if that means next season, because we have proved we can play a lot better than this & indeed better than anyone else is currently doing or you assume that everything we've done so far was a fluke, we were unworthy champions & had it all wrong, & sack the manager.


Let us hope the game plans for Swans and Saints are water tight is all I want to add to this !


What difference would any game plan make, if half the players play like shit ?

People got the plan they asked for vs QPR & it made no difference. Last season, there were times when we could have played that game with five forwards plus Yaya, & won 6-0.

Would Real Madrid go there & struggle because they had 3 up top & Modric in midfield ? But the same team with no confidence, players struggling to string 3 passes together without overhitting the ball, Marcello bombing forward all the time & a kid at centre back, would struggle just like we did & just hope Ronaldo rescued them.

Too much bollocks has been talked about tactics etc. Our players have not been performing this season, whatever the lineup & whatever the formation, & they know it.


Brian Kidd could have said the following. DO NOT GO SHORT IN YOUR OWN HALF THAT CAN WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE CONTROL OF THE FUCKING GAME, REMEMBER BOYS THIS IS LOTUS ROAD, SMALLER THAN MOST OF YOUR GARDENS. DUNNIE HATES LITTLE FUCKERS BUZZING AROUND SO LETS TURN HIM AND GET KUN INTO THE GAME AS OFTEN AS WE CAN. THEY KEY IS STAYING COMPACT AND PICKING THE FUCKERS OFF, BUT WE HAVE TO SET THE TONE, NO PASSENGERS AND NO RISKS EARLY DOORS. TEAM MEETING OVER. what the fuck else was they expecting a quiet stroll around West London in the rain and wind. 10 mins in Ted a message of what the fuck are you doing, get your fucking shape as we planned and stop trying to play pretty football in your own fucking half. Today is the wrong day for that. The same last Wed Yaya drop off and make it more solid in the middle we can win this when it settles down, sorted. No we stick to the same stupid not working plans.


He could have said all of those things, or not.
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Re: Is it possible for the Count to get the sack?

Postby PrezIke » Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:18 pm

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/footba ... Pellegrini

Pellegrini is feeling the heat following a woeful run of results and the champions will review his position at the end of this season.

Starsport understands club bosses have started considering possible replacements and have made Simeone their preferred choice.


Starsport understands the City manager still has the backing of club bosses right now and his job is not under immediate threat.

But chairman Khaldoon Al-Mubarak will reassess the situation in the summer and would not be afraid to axe the Chilean and make his move for Simeone.
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Re: Is it possible for the Count to get the sack?

Postby City64 » Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:23 pm

PrezIke wrote:http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/409809/Man-City-Atletico-Madrid-Diego-Simeone-Manuel-Pellegrini

Pellegrini is feeling the heat following a woeful run of results and the champions will review his position at the end of this season.

Starsport understands club bosses have started considering possible replacements and have made Simeone their preferred choice.


Starsport understands the City manager still has the backing of club bosses right now and his job is not under immediate threat.

But chairman Khaldoon Al-Mubarak will reassess the situation in the summer and would not be afraid to axe the Chilean and make his move for Simeone.

Guardiola will be number 1 choice next summer IF Pellegrini HASN,T turned things around .
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Re: Is it possible for the Count to get the sack?

Postby PrezIke » Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:33 pm

City64 wrote:
PrezIke wrote:http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/409809/Man-City-Atletico-Madrid-Diego-Simeone-Manuel-Pellegrini

Pellegrini is feeling the heat following a woeful run of results and the champions will review his position at the end of this season.

Starsport understands club bosses have started considering possible replacements and have made Simeone their preferred choice.


Starsport understands the City manager still has the backing of club bosses right now and his job is not under immediate threat.

But chairman Khaldoon Al-Mubarak will reassess the situation in the summer and would not be afraid to axe the Chilean and make his move for Simeone.

Guardiola will be number 1 choice next summer IF Pellegrini HASN,T turned things around .


Pep Guardiola has long been touted as a future City manager due to his close links with Etihad bosses Ferran Soriano and Txiki Begiristain following their time together at Barcelona.

But the Bayern Munich boss is the highest-paid manager in world football on a staggering £12.5m-a-season at the German champions.

Even big-spending City are unkeen to spend that much, so are now considering the merits of Simeone should Pellegrini get the axe.
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Re: Is it possible for the Count to get the sack?

Postby nottsblue » Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:36 pm

City64 wrote:
PrezIke wrote:http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/409809/Man-City-Atletico-Madrid-Diego-Simeone-Manuel-Pellegrini

Pellegrini is feeling the heat following a woeful run of results and the champions will review his position at the end of this season.

Starsport understands club bosses have started considering possible replacements and have made Simeone their preferred choice.


Starsport understands the City manager still has the backing of club bosses right now and his job is not under immediate threat.

But chairman Khaldoon Al-Mubarak will reassess the situation in the summer and would not be afraid to axe the Chilean and make his move for Simeone.

Guardiola will be number 1 choice next summer IF Pellegrini HASN,T turned things around .

Regardless of this season, IF Guardiola becomes available I think the board will try to move heaven and earth to get him. Though if he has delivered a second Prem title it would raise a lot of eyebrows if he was replaced. The board will be already planning five years from now at least and you would be hard pushed to say Pellers will be here then, primarily due to age. He will be nearly 70
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Re: Is it possible for the Count to get the sack?

Postby City64 » Wed Nov 12, 2014 7:28 pm

nottsblue wrote:
City64 wrote:
PrezIke wrote:http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/409809/Man-City-Atletico-Madrid-Diego-Simeone-Manuel-Pellegrini

Pellegrini is feeling the heat following a woeful run of results and the champions will review his position at the end of this season.

Starsport understands club bosses have started considering possible replacements and have made Simeone their preferred choice.


Starsport understands the City manager still has the backing of club bosses right now and his job is not under immediate threat.

But chairman Khaldoon Al-Mubarak will reassess the situation in the summer and would not be afraid to axe the Chilean and make his move for Simeone.

Guardiola will be number 1 choice next summer IF Pellegrini HASN,T turned things around .

Regardless of this season, IF Guardiola becomes available I think the board will try to move heaven and earth to get him. Though if he has delivered a second Prem title it would raise a lot of eyebrows if he was replaced. The board will be already planning five years from now at least and you would be hard pushed to say Pellers will be here then, primarily due to age. He will be nearly 70

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Re: Is it possible for the Count to get the sack?

Postby Goaters 103 » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:03 pm

Things would have to go really shit shaped for Pellegrini to get the sack during the season - ie 5 losses on the spin or some such.

Guardiola is also clearly the referred choice and the earliest he could be had, even in fantasy world, is the summer so I would be amazed if anything happened before then. If, and its a minute chance, that Guardiola indicated he wanted the job then he would be appointed by our current regime, regardless of Pellegrini's results from this point on. Its clear Pep is the dream candidate in the eyes of the power brokers at City, but I just don't see him arriving here.
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Re: Is it possible for the Count to get the sack?

Postby Beefymcfc » Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:50 pm

Discussing new managers. Really?
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Re: Is it possible for the Count to get the sack?

Postby john68 » Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:15 am

Fuckin hilarious innitBeefers Mate.

There is no story...The writer clearly states that MP is under no pressure from the City bosses. But themn states thet he is under pressure...who from?
THE FUCKING WRITER OF THE PIECE..and no fucker else..

Since when did a no mark cunt of a journalist get the power to hire and fire our managers?
Since idiots continued to read his fairy stories and give it the respect it never earned nor deserved by fucking talking about it.

IT'S A FUKKIN FAIRY STORY FFS....Once upon a fukkin time, In a far off land of fuckin make believe....There was no story. The End.
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Re: Is it possible for the Count to get the sack?

Postby Wooders » Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:03 am

He'll only get away with it for one season though - I can say that with confidence
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Re: Is it possible for the Count to get the sack?

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:50 am

Wooders wrote:He'll only get away with it for one season though - I can say that with confidence


Is that something you've been told in confidence, confidentially speaking ??
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Re: Is it possible for the Count to get the sack?

Postby Wonderwall » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:31 am

Beefymcfc wrote:Discussing new managers. Really?


Its visionary - everyone has to have a plan B, we give pellers enough stick about it :-)
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Re: Is it possible for the Count to get the sack?

Postby ruralblue » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:46 am

john68 wrote:
IT'S A FUKKIN FAIRY STORY FFS....Once upon a fukkin time, In a far off land of fuckin make believe....There was no story. The End.


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Re: Is it possible for the Count to get the sack?

Postby john68 » Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:11 pm

ruralblue wrote:
john68 wrote:
IT'S A FUKKIN FAIRY STORY FFS....Once upon a fukkin time, In a far off land of fuckin make believe....There was no story. The End.


Bedtime stories with John? Enjoyed very much but if you could perhaps spin it out by maybe scrIping a couple of cows, random sheep and wellington boots please!


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Re: Is it possible for the Count to get the sack?

Postby AntMcfc » Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:55 pm

Just get Simeone in this summer and start relaxing again. I can't wait to see some filthy football, sick and tired of us trying to 'stick to our philosophy' even when it looks like a lost cause, give me a dirty 1-0 win any day.
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