Pogba for sale

[Ted Hughes]

If it's a direct fair competition between us & the rags, we would win, but unfortunately ffp probably has to be considered (if it's still around) & rags have the Adidas sponsorship kicking in.

If the Glazers have decided on another year of spending, they can just bid more & more until it reaches the point where we are not allowed to compete & then we could only get him if he flat refuses to go there.

It depends on how far they are willing to go. Based on 60 mil for DiMaria, it's possibly up to double his value.

But also the way Real Madrid work, they are quite capable of just waiting until a fee is established then stepping in & signing him.

[AntMcfc]

@tancredipalmeri: BOOM! Manchester United and (again) Manchester City contacted in last 3 days Pogba's agent. Talks with Juve already opened in last 48 hours



COME ONNNNNNNNNNN

@Antmcfc, your credentials as a city fan are very questionable, but put that RAG gif up one more time and your out of here

Gif removed for purity reasons

Rag gif? The bloke was celebrating an Arsenal win vs United ffs, cop on. But it's a reaction gif, I hadn't for one second considered who the sides were that were playing.

[Hazy2]

If we get Pogba, I'd be happier than us getting Barkley even without the Premier League experience.

As much as I rave about Barkley, Pogba isn't just the business, he is the finished article as well.

If we sign Pogba, there is one player who I think we are overlooking selling and let's face it, he'd hate that as much as missing out on cake.

And with that cake, I'd like a side of Isco, still can't get over his performances in the U21 WC.

Pogba is a great player and Barkley is usually shit, which is another factor!

Everton fans feel Martinez is to blame for the Barkley dip as he has him playing it safe and not his natural game.

Exactly.

Barkley isnt the kind of coached player he needs a bit of freedom to drive into areas and make things happen.

Plus Woy, will not like skill and the unexpected for England, time for City to step in and use him properly. Still a great talent in a shit team with a manager under pressure.

[Ted Hughes]

Barkley has shown a lack of invention & effort in recent times. That's not down to Martinez, it's down to Barkley showing a lack of invention & effort.

It could be that it's because of all the talk or his injury & he will go on to great things. But it could also be that he is actually the player we are seeing & now he's being asked to actually produce something that lives upto the potential, he can't.

[Hazy2]

Barkley has shown a lack of invention & effort in recent times. That's not down to Martinez, it's down to Barkley showing a lack of invention & effort.

It could be that it's because of all the talk or his injury & he will go on to great things. But it could also be that he is actually the player we are seeing & now he's being asked to actually produce something that lives upto the potential, he can't.

Everyone talking him down and the Price Ted, Put a for sale on him lets see how many would be in for him. Killed in the stampede. Top talent in a team confused by shit tactics from a manager who is feeling the heat.

[blues2win]

Looks like Chelsea are in for Cuadrado from Fiorentina to replace Schurrle. 26 million mentioned. That makes it much more likely that we'll get Reus. Excellent player.

[Moonchesteri]

@tancredipalmeri: BOOM! Manchester United and (again) Manchester City contacted in last 3 days Pogba's agent. Talks with Juve already opened in last 48 hours

COME ONNNNNNNNNNN

Palmeri is incredibly unreliable. I can't remember the last time he got one right

Palmeri is full of shit imo. He has somehow built somewhat of a reputation in these things but he doesn't really put anything on the table.
For example Txixi may have called Juve bosses here's 40mil do we have a deal, they said no and that's it.

Tancredipalmeri reports City have contacted Juve and again he is ITK without actually putting anything on the table. That's what he does

[Mikhail Chigorin]

If we get Pogba, I'd be happier than us getting Barkley even without the Premier League experience.

As much as I rave about Barkley, Pogba isn't just the business, he is the finished article as well.

If we sign Pogba, there is one player who I think we are overlooking selling and let's face it, he'd hate that as much as missing out on cake.

And with that cake, I'd like a side of Isco, still can't get over his performances in the U21 WC.

Pogba is a great player and Barkley is usually shit, which is another factor!

sign them both

Seems like a reasonable compromise.

Nice bit of lateral thinking.

[Ted Hughes]

Barkley has shown a lack of invention & effort in recent times. That's not down to Martinez, it's down to Barkley showing a lack of invention & effort.

It could be that it's because of all the talk or his injury & he will go on to great things. But it could also be that he is actually the player we are seeing & now he's being asked to actually produce something that lives upto the potential, he can't.

Everyone talking him down and the Price Ted, Put a for sale on him lets see how many would be in for him. Killed in the stampede. Top talent in a team confused by shit tactics from a manager who is feeling the heat.

The number in for him at 50 mil, would be zero imo. Or perhaps Utd.

But I don't dispute that plenty of clubs would be interested. But that doesn't change the fact that he's currently nowhere near good enough to be putting on a City shirt, & that isn't down to tactics or Martinez, it's down to the fact that he's ambling around the pitch doing fuck all. Against City, he was like a fucking bus from World war II most of the time.

If we sign him & this is it, we will have blown a large sum of money on a player not good enough for a place in our squad.

It's a big gamble, however you butter it up; a really huge gamble.

[Hazy2]

If we judge him on Monday night yep gamble. He is more than that, we saw a flash with his goal against us. I bet we go for him, Isco looked lost last season, to get him would be double what RM paid, Barkley has been doing according to Everton fans since he was 15 magic boots its this season in a side clueless he looks below his reputation. Young players dip. Long term I see a diamond.

[Ted Hughes]

You could be right.

But he's nowhere near it right now & looks like he's lacking intelligence & workrate. Signing him would be an enormous gamble however you look at it. David Bentley was way better than Barkley is currently & scored many more impressive goals. Ireland was better than him for one season & is now not good enough to play in our U16s. It is a massive risk.

We will have to hope the people involved make the correct decision either way.

[Plain Speaking]

If we judge him on Monday night yep gamble. He is more than that, we saw a flash with his goal against us. I bet we go for him, Isco looked lost last season, to get him would be double what RM paid, Barkley has been doing according to Everton fans since he was 15 magic boots its this season in a side clueless he looks below his reputation. Young players dip. Long term I see a diamond.

Check out the Everton fans forum GOT, Barkley went through a very poor run of form last season for a few months and their fans were very concerned. Barkley definitely blows hot and cold. Moments of good play but large periods of nothing.

[Hazy2]

If we judge him on Monday night yep gamble. He is more than that, we saw a flash with his goal against us. I bet we go for him, Isco looked lost last season, to get him would be double what RM paid, Barkley has been doing according to Everton fans since he was 15 magic boots its this season in a side clueless he looks below his reputation. Young players dip. Long term I see a diamond.

Check out the Everton fans forum GOT, Barkley went through a very poor run of form last season for a few months and their fans were very concerned. Barkley definitely blows hot and cold. Moments of good play but large periods of nothing.

I listened to a few recently, and yes bang on, For me Agent Vieira has to get to Pogba sell him the club and we have 2 Barklay's if not then sell Everton Micah and take Ross and give him his role. As I said with younger players and we have seen it with Isco for a full 12 months looked like a gonna and a failure at Madrid, now he has had games got his breath they have Silva MK11 Isramendi is in the same boat, RM got him in front of a lot of clubs now hardly makes the bench, they just do not buy bad players, some just dont fit, Still sought after as his pedigree is undoubted, same with Barklay, Everybody knew he was special.

[Ted Hughes]

If we judge him on Monday night yep gamble. He is more than that, we saw a flash with his goal against us. I bet we go for him, Isco looked lost last season, to get him would be double what RM paid, Barkley has been doing according to Everton fans since he was 15 magic boots its this season in a side clueless he looks below his reputation. Young players dip. Long term I see a diamond.

Check out the Everton fans forum GOT, Barkley went through a very poor run of form last season for a few months and their fans were very concerned. Barkley definitely blows hot and cold. Moments of good play but large periods of nothing.

I listened to a few recently, and yes bang on, For me Agent Vieira has to get to Pogba sell him the club and we have 2 Barklay's if not then sell Everton Micah and take Ross and give him his role. As I said with younger players and we have seen it with Isco for a full 12 months looked like a gonna and a failure at Madrid, now he has had games got his breath they have Silva MK11 Isramendi is in the same boat, RM got him in front of a lot of clubs now hardly makes the bench, they just do not buy bad players, some just dont fit, Still sought after as his pedigree is undoubted, same with Barklay, Everybody knew he was special.

You are talking as if that is the general rule for young players. It's actually the opposite.

Most young players who look the dog's bollocks & hit a bad patch, weren't actually the dog's bollocks at all, they were closer to what they produced during the bad patch. They sign for Arsenal or Utd, play like shit for a few years, get loaned out, then disappear.

For every Ross Barkley that has a drop in form then comes back to form, there are 300 who don't. The best kids usually produce a large volume of high quality moments before dropping off. That's what you base it on.

Barkley hasn't produced one single season of high quality football & he's 21 years old. If he'd been at City, we would have loaned him out.

Isco was a star. That's the difference.

[blues2win]

If the Club can get Pogba they'll take him like a flash ahead of Barkley. There's simply no contest. My own pure guess is that Real will get him but I expect us to get Reus, especially now Chelsea are looking elsewhere. That would still leave us looking for Yaya's successor over the next year or two though.

[Ted Hughes]

Neither Barkley nor Pogba are Yaya or likely to be imo, even if they both live upto their fantastic potential; they will be different kinds of players.

So even if we signed both, we would have to see whether we look for someone to do the Yaya job, or evolve into something else.

Interesting.

[blues2win]

I don't think we'll get a one for one replacement for Yaya . More likely we'll look to reshape our midfield with the emphasis on a more athletic approach with an emphasis on moving the ball up the field much more quickly than we sometimes do at the moment. I always think you want a range of skills in central midfield; tacklers, passers and dribblers. Of course the gold standard are players who can do all three.

[Ted Hughes]

I don't think we'll get a one for one replacement for Yaya . More likely we'll look to reshape our midfield with the emphasis on a more athletic approach with an emphasis on moving the ball up the field much more quickly than we sometimes do at the moment. I always think you want a range of skills in central midfield; tacklers, passers and dribblers. Of course the gold standard are players who can do all three.

This is what I think will happen, & I think the way the kid's sides try to play, but with a tighter defence, is potentially the next level in the future.

[Hazy2]

If we judge him on Monday night yep gamble. He is more than that, we saw a flash with his goal against us. I bet we go for him, Isco looked lost last season, to get him would be double what RM paid, Barkley has been doing according to Everton fans since he was 15 magic boots its this season in a side clueless he looks below his reputation. Young players dip. Long term I see a diamond.

Check out the Everton fans forum GOT, Barkley went through a very poor run of form last season for a few months and their fans were very concerned. Barkley definitely blows hot and cold. Moments of good play but large periods of nothing.

I listened to a few recently, and yes bang on, For me Agent Vieira has to get to Pogba sell him the club and we have 2 Barklay's if not then sell Everton Micah and take Ross and give him his role. As I said with younger players and we have seen it with Isco for a full 12 months looked like a gonna and a failure at Madrid, now he has had games got his breath they have Silva MK11 Isramendi is in the same boat, RM got him in front of a lot of clubs now hardly makes the bench, they just do not buy bad players, some just dont fit, Still sought after as his pedigree is undoubted, same with Barklay, Everybody knew he was special.

You are talking as if that is the general rule for young players. It's actually the opposite.

Most young players who look the dog's bollocks & hit a bad patch, weren't actually the dog's bollocks at all, they were closer to what they produced during the bad patch. They sign for Arsenal or Utd, play like shit for a few years, get loaned out, then disappear.

For every Ross Barkley that has a drop in form then comes back to form, there are 300 who don't. The best kids usually produce a large volume of high quality moments before dropping off. That's what you base it on.

Barkley hasn't produced one single season of high quality football & he's 21 years old. If he'd been at City, we would have loaned him out.

Isco was a star. That's the difference.

Pogba could not dislodge 35yr olds for whatever reason Rednose had, If I had a choice Pogba all day, Isco was playing in 2 malag teams one with well paid quality and the other free transfers, At RM he looked lost and we all thought dodged one there, now we see he has settled down due to Modric getting injured. Barkley had a great season Ted, what are you on about. He also had most clubs on alert

[Sideshow Bob]

Pogba could not dislodge 35yr olds for whatever reason Rednose had, If I had a choice Pogba all day, Isco was playing in 2 malag teams one with well paid quality and the other free transfers, At RM he looked lost and we all thought dodged one there, now we see he has settled down due to Modric getting injured. Barkley had a great season Ted, what are you on about. He also had most clubs on alert

disagree about isco looking lost. he hit the ground running there but got bounced to make way for their big money monkey boy. then he flitted in and out of the team due to modric and later kroos and rodriguez. never really got a fair shake until injuries forced ancelotti's hand.

edit: oh and fuck barkley. he is not good enough and would be a huge waste of money.