Why Is Pellegrini Still In A Job.

[Sparklehorse]

I think it should be compulsory for an EDS player to be on the bench and brought on for 20-30 mins when we are comfortable to see how they cope.
Pozo unfortunately had to run the line when given his chance and was totally out of his depth in that position and the thing is he didn't do anything wrong, he just couldn't get into the game. When he was played in an attacking midfield role, I can't remember against who, he looked a proper prospect. Imagine what a boost it must be to the youth when opportunities may come your way.............at the moment nobody is even making the bench either in the league or cups and that is just plain wrong however you look at it and I believe that the first team are far, far too comfortable.....they need a huge kick up the arse and the only way to do it is to have some whippersnapper from the youth set up to challenge your place.

[Ted Hughes]

Angelino as a wide mid is an option imo with Milner injured. I would absolutely not pair Bryan with Yaya, but with Fernandinho & then Yaya further forward I would trust him.

If the old cunt is worried about trusting Barker, due to him being a flair player, Angelino is a talented attacking player who would give a very solid, hard working option when we lost the ball.

[nottsblue]

I wouldn't bother with any of the defenders this year. Too much to ask from them in that horror story we call our defence - could destroy their confidence.

Midfielders and forwards are another story though. It's a shame that Ambrose and Boadu are injured as they would be two i think could do alright and maybe offer something going forward. Barker and Bryan are the two current obvious ones for me. Angelino and Maffeo can wait until next year, though if i had to choose one to blood defensively i'd go for Maffeo as I really doubt he can be as poor as Sagna and Zaba have this year.

Wingers and forwards yes, but imagine putting Bryan in the middle with Yaya for example. Talk about potential confidence destroying moment..

Barker deserves to get his debut before the season is over but Im not sure that will happen. Hope I'm wrong

I think the point of playing a young 'un is that Yaya gets nowhere near the field. Or Nasri. Or Kolarov. Or anyone else who may be the 'bad apple'. I don't think anyone us suggesting putting four or five in starting berths. Just one or two at most with one or two coming off the bench to get a taster. If Sterling was at our academy would he have even started a game by now? If and when third place is certain then give a few more a run out

[Blue Since 76]

The problem isn't now, it's that we didn't even try a few kids against Wednesday or Boro in the cups. You get 7 subs now, would it hurt to have a kid on the bench to throw on if a few up?

It's pointless throwing a load in now with CL at risk, although they couldn't do much worse

[twosips]

Angelino as a wide mid is an option imo with Milner injured. I would absolutely not pair Bryan with Yaya, but with Fernandinho & then Yaya further forward I would trust him.

If the old cunt is worried about trusting Barker, due to him being a flair player, Angelino is a talented attacking player who would give a very solid, hard working option when we lost the ball.

I actually think Angelino would do a better job than Milner on the left. Honestly believe that.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Angelino as a wide mid is an option imo with Milner injured. I would absolutely not pair Bryan with Yaya, but with Fernandinho & then Yaya further forward I would trust him.

If the old cunt is worried about trusting Barker, due to him being a flair player, Angelino is a talented attacking player who would give a very solid, hard working option when we lost the ball.

No matter what they do in the EDS , fuckign stubborn features wont play them.....I cannot wait for him to be sacked.

[ruralblue]

The problem isn't now, it's that we didn't even try a few kids against Wednesday or Boro in the cups. You get 7 subs now, would it hurt to have a kid on the bench to throw on if a few up?

It's pointless throwing a load in now with CL at risk, although they couldn't do much worse

To right. These kids should have had plenty chances thoughout this season to get the odd ten minutes here and there when we have been a couple of goals ahead. Wasted opportunity.

[Beefymcfc]

The problem isn't now, it's that we didn't even try a few kids against Wednesday or Boro in the cups. You get 7 subs now, would it hurt to have a kid on the bench to throw on if a few up?

It's pointless throwing a load in now with CL at risk, although they couldn't do much worse

To right. These kids should have had plenty chances thoughout this season to get the odd ten minutes here and there when we have been a couple of goals ahead. Wasted opportunity.

I think the majority are the same, wondering wtf is going on behind the scenes that we can't get one or two of them, even on the bench.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

The biggest head scratcher was last season when we put 7 past Spurs ans I can't remember who it was but we had a kid on the bench and didn't bring them on. That's when I ask what the point is.

[PeterParker]

Again the constant EDS bollox and i ask again: When was the last time a youngster got a regular place?

It will not happen, forget about it. None of those kids will get any chance under any manager and i mean any manager. It is a lot in stake and the board will not decide to risk it with youngsters and no manager will give them any chances, again, normal, imho, because any manager that comes here is interested in a short term result, he doesn't care about building a team for the next 10 years.

Regarding Pellers, there are two problems here. The players, 80 % of the current situation. They are the caused we are so shit at this moment and here we are talking about attitude and, let's face it, tiredness because of the World Cup last summer.

Now, why is Pellers fault in my opinion: I think he knows the board will not offer him a new contract, he knew it from a while now. If you are at you jobs and there are rumours you are going, even if you lead at what you do, how he did on Boxing day, and those rumours come from inside, you don't work that much anymore. Your attitude it's now: fuck it, so be it.

The managers will have to start using them as the owner & Chairman will demand it. Changing managers will slow it down but it won't stop it. That has been the core plan since the takeover. Most ignore it so haven't followed it. I have always been interested in it, so have done. Khaldoon spent most of his time at the academy, when the club was first taken over. Some were obsessed with Hughes & Robinho, I was reading & listening to Khaldoon. Always have.

There will be no point in not using some of these players anyway, as some of them will be better than the players we could sign. That isn't the case yet but it will be.

They will not ask that Ted, and you know it.

If you want a quality manager, no one will tell him what to do. If you want to use those players, then you will have to give a chance to Paddy or other non proven manager.

We are not at the same level as we were in the past, to experiment things. We are a financial power and we need to finish in top 4 year in and year out, for us to grow and have the big income that everyone wants.

Yes, i would love to see them, but there is no chance in hell that can happen. City will not throw in battle raw kids. City will throw Yaya and Nasri, because they bring at the moment sponsorships from Nike, etc, not Denayer, Baker, etc.

And why Pellers has a job? Because Khaldoon and the sheik are actually professionals and they know how to do their job. Let's not forget that Sparkly had 1 and half years here as a manager under a club management that did not brought him in.


In Khaldoon we trust.

[getdressedmctavish]

Well at least all of us have calmed down a bit(except Nick,lol) and are starting to think rationally about cause and remedy. I too thought Pellers would be gone today but the lads who say it would still leave the central problem unsolved are right.The loss of cohesion amongst players who looked a decent team in December is the problem. There will be many causes of that but I am sure the ya ya problem is the main one. I don't believe there is any must play clause. What would he do, sue the club for being wrongfully dropped or breach of contract? don't be daft.No, we ate shit to keep him in the summer and he has well and truly rubbed our faces in it since. And the manager hasn't had the balls to deal with it. Its not that easy because the whole of our play is built round the idle cunt.and for all every one goes on about how great he is, fernandinho is far too willing to pass it five feet to Ya Ya rather than creating himself( which he's capable of if he wasn't such a fuckin weak personality) So the remedy has to be to dispense with Ya Ya now and the board meeting has to be about that remedy, or a better one, but if we don't take positive action the team will fall apart and 4th will be gone for the simple reason that Liverpool are a team, albeit limited, and that is what counts. Pellegrini needs to do something else with his cock apart from pull it. can he? I don't think so on the evidence of his pathetic cosying up to Ya Ya on Sunday. Could Kidd? I doubt it. Which is why I suggest the cleaner's supervisor. But we need to get the two Ferns together and demand they do the job they were bought to fucking do, get the team scrapping and running, and get behind them. If that doesn't happen, this lot are for an almighty bollocking from thousands of loyal fans.See some running and tackling and we can get back behind them and make the run in a good fight.

[Im_Spartacus]

Again the constant EDS bollox and i ask again: When was the last time a youngster got a regular place?

It will not happen, forget about it. None of those kids will get any chance under any manager and i mean any manager. It is a lot in stake and the board will not decide to risk it with youngsters and no manager will give them any chances, again, normal, imho, because any manager that comes here is interested in a short term result, he doesn't care about building a team for the next 10 years.

Regarding Pellers, there are two problems here. The players, 80 % of the current situation. They are the caused we are so shit at this moment and here we are talking about attitude and, let's face it, tiredness because of the World Cup last summer.

Now, why is Pellers fault in my opinion: I think he knows the board will not offer him a new contract, he knew it from a while now. If you are at you jobs and there are rumours you are going, even if you lead at what you do, how he did on Boxing day, and those rumours come from inside, you don't work that much anymore. Your attitude it's now: fuck it, so be it.

The managers will have to start using them as the owner & Chairman will demand it. Changing managers will slow it down but it won't stop it. That has been the core plan since the takeover. Most ignore it so haven't followed it. I have always been interested in it, so have done. Khaldoon spent most of his time at the academy, when the club was first taken over. Some were obsessed with Hughes & Robinho, I was reading & listening to Khaldoon. Always have.

There will be no point in not using some of these players anyway, as some of them will be better than the players we could sign. That isn't the case yet but it will be.

They will not ask that Ted, and you know it.

If you want a quality manager, no one will tell him what to do. If you want to use those players, then you will have to give a chance to Paddy or other non proven manager.

We are not at the same level as we were in the past, to experiment things. We are a financial power and we need to finish in top 4 year in and year out, for us to grow and have the big income that everyone wants.

Yes, i would love to see them, but there is no chance in hell that can happen. City will not throw in battle raw kids. City will throw Yaya and Nasri, because they bring at the moment sponsorships from Nike, etc, not Denayer, Baker, etc.

And why Pellers has a job? Because Khaldoon and the sheik are actually professionals and they know how to do their job. Let's not forget that Sparkly had 1 and half years here as a manager under a club management that did not brought him in.


In Khaldoon we trust.

They will ask it, as Khaldoon has already publicly said that the use of youngsters in the team will be an element in the ongoing assessment of a manager's performance.

For Pellegrini to get away with not picking any of them bar Lopes all season, I can only assume that Vieira and Marwood are saying that none are ready to step up yet.

If on the other hand the opinion is that some of them should have got a chance, that puts Pellegrini directly into conflict with the stated aims of the club, in which case when added to the post Xmas performance, he could be a dead man walking

[Tokyo Blue]

I can only assume that Vieira and Marwood are saying that none are ready to step up yet.

I have been wondering whether this is the case. Pellegrini has got to trust Vieira's opinion, whichever way it goes.

There have been cases in City's history, Paul Simpson and Michael Johnson being the obvious ones, of young lads who have come in at the arse end of the season and made a real difference.

[Ted Hughes]

I can only assume that Vieira and Marwood are saying that none are ready to step up yet.

I have been wondering whether this is the case. Pellegrini has got to trust Vieira's opinion, whichever way it goes.

There have been cases in City's history, Paul Simpson and Michael Johnson being the obvious ones, of young lads who have come in at the arse end of the season and made a real difference.

They aren't ready to step up yet. Certainly they weren't at the start of the season. The best of these kids are like 18 years old. The best ones coming back from loans are only 19. Barker, Angelino etc were scratching around to find their feet at EDS level at the start ot this season. But now they are amongst the best in the country, & Europe in those positions at that level.

So obviously, they learn. They would have learned from being used occasionally by the first team, & will do next season. Imo they would also probably lift the atmosphere a bit. But even next season, they will still be kids who are learning.

No way would Vieira, Marwood, Txiki or anyone be ordering the manager to play these. I wouldn't myself. But they should get 'some' chances next season here & there. Questions will be asked if that doesn't happen I think.

If they continue to progress the same & can't get a sniff at 21, that's when you fire the manager.

[Mikhail Chigorin]

If, as now sadly seems more than likely, we fail to qualify for next season's Champions League, I wouldn't mind playing quite a few of the youngsters in the Europa, even though it might mean that we virtually write off our longer-term chances in that competition.

[Cocacolajojo1]

If, as now sadly seems more than likely, we fail to qualify for next season's Champions League, I wouldn't mind playing quite a few of the youngsters in the Europa, even though it might mean that we virtually write off our longer-term chances in that competition.

If there's no huge financial hit from not playing in the CL that will endanger FFP and we can begin to restructure our squad with the sale of a few and the addition of a few, I see no problem in not playing in the CL next year. Europa's more fun, less prestigious though. TBF though, I don't care about any of them. More kids regardless, yey!

[sheblue]

If, as now sadly seems more than likely, we fail to qualify for next season's Champions League, I wouldn't mind playing quite a few of the youngsters in the Europa, even though it might mean that we virtually write off our longer-term chances in that competition.

If there's no huge financial hit from not playing in the CL that will endanger FFP and we can begin to restructure our squad with the sale of a few and the addition of a few, I see no problem in not playing in the CL next year. Europa's more fun, less prestigious though. TBF though, I don't care about any of them. More kids regardless, yey!

If we end up in Europa the correct thing would be to blood plenty of young players in that competition, of course we would get stuffed sooner or later but we need to give a few of them a shot, if good enough. Sinclair sat on the bench for yonks, what was the point of that surely a young player should have there and given a few minutes here and there. But that didn't happen. And no sign it will either.

[AntMcfc]

Angelino as a wide mid is an option imo with Milner injured. I would absolutely not pair Bryan with Yaya, but with Fernandinho & then Yaya further forward I would trust him.

If the old cunt is worried about trusting Barker, due to him being a flair player, Angelino is a talented attacking player who would give a very solid, hard working option when we lost the ball.

I actually think Angelino would do a better job than Milner on the left. Honestly believe that.

Then you are 100% fucking stupid.

[Wonderwall]

Angelino as a wide mid is an option imo with Milner injured. I would absolutely not pair Bryan with Yaya, but with Fernandinho & then Yaya further forward I would trust him.

If the old cunt is worried about trusting Barker, due to him being a flair player, Angelino is a talented attacking player who would give a very solid, hard working option when we lost the ball.

I actually think Angelino would do a better job than Milner on the left. Honestly believe that.

Then you are 100% fucking stupid.

Then that makes most of us 100% fucking stupid!

[twosips]

Angelino as a wide mid is an option imo with Milner injured. I would absolutely not pair Bryan with Yaya, but with Fernandinho & then Yaya further forward I would trust him.

If the old cunt is worried about trusting Barker, due to him being a flair player, Angelino is a talented attacking player who would give a very solid, hard working option when we lost the ball.

I actually think Angelino would do a better job than Milner on the left. Honestly believe that.

Then you are 100% fucking stupid.

And you're 100% a cunt.

Milner has offered nothing of late. Angelino I think would do a great job on the left. Bit cautious at first, yes, but he'd grow into it very well.