vk injured

[dazby]

Momentary hate? Or just when I take the piss out of you hate? Or perma -hate?

[DoomMerchant]

I'm getting like Mancini with injuries.

If you're injured a lot you're dead to the team and the club.

For all Vinnie's contributions over the years he's really been an injury letdown that's threatening to mute the legend he could be at the club.

I believe he's going to be one of those "what more he could have been" rather than "what he was."

I wonder if the stats around missing games backs that up of if I'm on a Carlesque emotional rant.

Cheers

[phips]

Sadly we know the well trodden path by now. Injured plays a few games, gets injured again, plays a few more, the cycle continues, etc etc etc.
Back for Arsenal it seems which is very good news, but after that its anyone's guess.

We should cash in after this season as it's just fuckign pointless havign players who spend half their lives injured.......If it wasn't for the fact Aguero scores shitloads of goals, regardless of being out injured, I would of also considered him being sold as well.....but we can't as hes fuckign ace either side of being injured.

I think I'm more pissed off with VK and all the club V country rows if I'm honest.,.....it still grates me.

My sentiments, exactly.

but who would buy him for decent money after seeing his injury history?

[Slim]

Sadly we know the well trodden path by now. Injured plays a few games, gets injured again, plays a few more, the cycle continues, etc etc etc.
Back for Arsenal it seems which is very good news, but after that its anyone's guess.

We should cash in after this season as it's just fuckign pointless havign players who spend half their lives injured.......If it wasn't for the fact Aguero scores shitloads of goals, regardless of being out injured, I would of also considered him being sold as well.....but we can't as hes fuckign ace either side of being injured.

I think I'm more pissed off with VK and all the club V country rows if I'm honest.,.....it still grates me.

My sentiments, exactly.

but who would buy him for decent money after seeing his injury history?

Sunderland.

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

Sadly we know the well trodden path by now. Injured plays a few games, gets injured again, plays a few more, the cycle continues, etc etc etc.
Back for Arsenal it seems which is very good news, but after that its anyone's guess.

We should cash in after this season as it's just fuckign pointless havign players who spend half their lives injured.......If it wasn't for the fact Aguero scores shitloads of goals, regardless of being out injured, I would of also considered him being sold as well.....but we can't as hes fuckign ace either side of being injured.

I think I'm more pissed off with VK and all the club V country rows if I'm honest.,.....it still grates me.

My sentiments, exactly.

but who would buy him for decent money after seeing his injury history?

Sunderland.

Hull.

[Chopper]

One of the commentators said that Vinnie has had 11 Calf injuries in three and a half years.

Shocking if true.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

He's injured far too often, but what really pisses me off is how it always magically heals in time for international breaks. He can miss 6 games for us yet play two in a week for Belgium then come home and sit again!

[iwasthere2012]

He's injured far too often, but what really pisses me off is how it always magically heals in time for international breaks. He can miss 6 games for us yet play two in a week for Belgium then come home and sit again!

The guy is a City legend, but this kind of stuff, is what is driving people mad.
He has so much in the bank with City supporters but I think he owes us big time this season.
You can't help feel that a lot of the time he has missed was so avoidable.
You also wonder if we'd had him in a settled back four, or at least a consistent CB partnership, how far in front of the pack could we be.

Yes. I blame Vinny......for not being available.

Get back soon... Ye bastard.

[plf blue]

come back soon vinny we need you , but i hate internationals

[dazby]

He's injured far too often, but what really pisses me off is how it always magically heals in time for international breaks. He can miss 6 games for us yet play two in a week for Belgium then come home and sit again!

The guy is a City legend, but this kind of stuff, is what is driving people mad.
He has so much in the bank with City supporters but I think he owes us big time this season.
You can't help feel that a lot of the time he has missed was so avoidable.
You also wonder if we'd had him in a settled back four, or at least a consistent CB partnership, how far in front of the pack could we be.

Yes. I blame Vinny......for not being available.

Get back soon... Ye bastard.

Doesn't owe us a thing mate. We owe him a debt of gratitude for leading us to where we are today.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

He's injured far too often, but what really pisses me off is how it always magically heals in time for international breaks. He can miss 6 games for us yet play two in a week for Belgium then come home and sit again!

The guy is a City legend, but this kind of stuff, is what is driving people mad.
He has so much in the bank with City supporters but I think he owes us big time this season.
You can't help feel that a lot of the time he has missed was so avoidable.
You also wonder if we'd had him in a settled back four, or at least a consistent CB partnership, how far in front of the pack could we be.

Yes. I blame Vinny......for not being available.

Get back soon... Ye bastard.

Doesn't owe us a thing mate. We owe him a debt of gratitude for leading us to where we are today.

Can't agree with that Mate. Yes he's lead us to where we are, but in financial terms when we pay him millions to heal and he plays internationals and is out again I think there's a bit of give and take involved. We're too soft on some of these players.

[Moonchesteri]

He's injured far too often, but what really pisses me off is how it always magically heals in time for international breaks. He can miss 6 games for us yet play two in a week for Belgium then come home and sit again!

The guy is a City legend, but this kind of stuff, is what is driving people mad.
He has so much in the bank with City supporters but I think he owes us big time this season.
You can't help feel that a lot of the time he has missed was so avoidable.
You also wonder if we'd had him in a settled back four, or at least a consistent CB partnership, how far in front of the pack could we be.

Yes. I blame Vinny......for not being available.

Get back soon... Ye bastard.

Doesn't owe us a thing mate. We owe him a debt of gratitude for leading us to where we are today.

Can't agree with that Mate. Yes he's lead us to where we are, but in financial terms when we pay him millions to heal and he plays internationals and is out again I think there's a bit of give and take involved. We're too soft on some of these players.

Spot on PBL.

[phips]

a bit unfortunate that we've had 7 clean sheets in the 8 matches he's played and none in the matches he's missed. he should know how important he is to the club and keep that in mind when the international breaks come around

[Pretty Boy Lee]

a bit unfortunate that we've had 7 clean sheets in the 8 matches he's played and none in the matches he's missed. he should know how important he is to the club and keep that in mind when the international breaks come around

He should be managed well in agreement between club and country. If he had to play for Belgium to qualify for a major tourney I'd be bummed but understand. To come out from injury for friendlies or meaningless games fucks me off big time.

[Hazy2]

70 odd mill and I cannot see how Denayer would not have pushed for a place, both Mangala and Otter are in need of a partner. It does not help anyone that we look like we are waiting for Vinny, to get fit, which is the problem, he is never fit. Mangala either improves or will be gone. otter needs a a partner with pace and reads the game , Mangala is an athlete, but does not see danger, and has a mistake in him, we also need a De Jong type of player to glue the middle of the pitch, we are wide open there and out wide, when we lose the ball.

[sheblue]

We badly need him fit for next Monday.

[Slim]

70 odd mill and I cannot see how Denayer would not have pushed for a place, both Mangala and Otter are in need of a partner. It does not help anyone that we look like we are waiting for Vinny, to get fit, which is the problem, he is never fit. Mangala either improves or will be gone. otter needs a a partner with pace and reads the game , Mangala is an athlete, but does not see danger, and has a mistake in him, we also need a De Jong type of player to glue the middle of the pitch, we are wide open there and out wide, when we lose the ball.

I don't think anyone saw MDM's rapid decline coming considering how well he's done for us in the past. Mangala's early season form kept him here(he was supposed to be a part exchange loan for Otamendi) and now he's stuttering we really are suffering at the back. Long term I think Otter and Mangala are the way forward. But neither is VK and we really need him to hold their hand through their settling period into this league. It's really all about leadership and whilst Joe and Yaya are able deputies, neither is a patch on Vinnie. If he comes back and stays fit, the lineup will settle with Otter as 1st choice, Mangala as 2nd and next season, Denayer as a rotational choice.

As people have stated in other threads, a two man midfield containing Yaya will offer next to no cover at the back. It's unreasonable to assume Fernando, Delph or Fernandinho can cover that much of the pitch by themselves and there is literally no formation where we can protect the back four when Pellegrini has decided that our fullbacks are wingers who come back to defend when they've got time.

[carl_feedthegoat]

70 odd mill and I cannot see how Denayer would not have pushed for a place, both Mangala and Otter are in need of a partner. It does not help anyone that we look like we are waiting for Vinny, to get fit, which is the problem, he is never fit. Mangala either improves or will be gone. otter needs a a partner with pace and reads the game , Mangala is an athlete, but does not see danger, and has a mistake in him, we also need a De Jong type of player to glue the middle of the pitch, we are wide open there and out wide, when we lose the ball.

I don't think anyone saw MDM's rapid decline coming considering how well he's done for us in the past. Mangala's early season form kept him here(he was supposed to be a part exchange loan for Otamendi) and now he's stuttering we really are suffering at the back. Long term I think Otter and Mangala are the way forward. But neither is VK and we really need him to hold their hand through their settling period into this league. It's really all about leadership and whilst Joe and Yaya are able deputies, neither is a patch on Vinnie. If he comes back and stays fit, the lineup will settle with Otter as 1st choice, Mangala as 2nd and next season, Denayer as a rotational choice.

As people have stated in other threads, a two man midfield containing Yaya will offer next to no cover at the back. It's unreasonable to assume Fernando, Delph or Fernandinho can cover that much of the pitch by themselves and there is literally no formation where we can protect the back four when Pellegrini has decided that our fullbacks are wingers who come back to defend when they've got time.

Mangala needs selling as he commits the same mistakes time after time.How many times have you seen this player hoof the ball into row Z or for a corner when he has had time to smack the ball upfield? It's alright saying play safe but this cunt plays safe when he has time to do something else, it's a part of his game that stinks ...and his positioning ? I'm not even going to go there as I can tear it to pieces.

We need another replacement and seeing as the club tried to flog him to Valencia (Or loan him) Id say the odds on selling him are even money.

[Im_Spartacus]

Is it time to admit that the desire for a footballing centre half is a failed experiment and that Vince was a one off?

If we are having full backs steaming forwards, we need at least two players in the team who can fucking defend without making it look like the Benny Hill show!

We've been through half a dozen replacements for Lescott now, and none have been a match for steady, reliable defending that a DEFENDER brings to the party. It seems the guys we've signed since Joleen left are all kinda failed/not-quite midfielders, and lack the basic composure and positioning sense to do the basic job at hand, stopping cunts scoring.

Our record of conceding 2 at home in the last 5 champions league home games is nothing short of a disgrace

I really feel we would be better sticking with Kompany, Otamendi and Mangala, but bringing in at least one reliable centre back in the mould of a Gary Cahill in place of Demichelis when he finishes, nothing spectacular but does a steady job week in week out.

[zuricity]

70 odd mill and I cannot see how Denayer would not have pushed for a place, both Mangala and Otter are in need of a partner. It does not help anyone that we look like we are waiting for Vinny, to get fit, which is the problem, he is never fit. Mangala either improves or will be gone. otter needs a a partner with pace and reads the game , Mangala is an athlete, but does not see danger, and has a mistake in him, we also need a De Jong type of player to glue the middle of the pitch, we are wide open there and out wide, when we lose the ball.

I don't think anyone saw MDM's rapid decline coming considering how well he's done for us in the past. Mangala's early season form kept him here(he was supposed to be a part exchange loan for Otamendi) and now he's stuttering we really are suffering at the back. Long term I think Otter and Mangala are the way forward. But neither is VK and we really need him to hold their hand through their settling period into this league. It's really all about leadership and whilst Joe and Yaya are able deputies, neither is a patch on Vinnie. If he comes back and stays fit, the lineup will settle with Otter as 1st choice, Mangala as 2nd and next season, Denayer as a rotational choice.

As people have stated in other threads, a two man midfield containing Yaya will offer next to no cover at the back. It's unreasonable to assume Fernando, Delph or Fernandinho can cover that much of the pitch by themselves and there is literally no formation where we can protect the back four when Pellegrini has decided that our fullbacks are wingers who come back to defend when they've got time.

I saw his rapid decline coming which is why Bayern got rid of him.

Getting MDM was a waste of time, everyone knows
that over the age of 30 your reactions are slower , you lose speed.

Vince was injury plagued at Hamburg which is why we got him so cheaply. As a midfielder he has adapted very well to the role of centre back.

He's an intelligent guy and a good captain, but an average defender who is always injured.

Vince needs replacing. We should have a back four and keep them in as long as possible. We don't have Stability anymore.