is yaya past it

[gillie]

Yaya is and always will be in my opinion one of the best players to wear the shirt but this season in quite a few games he has been a waste of a shirt.Like I said my opinion and if anyone disagrees that's their right but I reserve the right for mine without having to argue about it.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Yaya is and always will be in my opinion one of the best players to wear the shirt but this season in quite a few games he has been a waste of a shirt.Like I said my opinion and if anyone disagrees that's their right but I reserve the right for mine without having to argue about it.

Where's the fun in that?

[Wonderwall]

The problem with Yaya is his unpredictability. He can be shit for 80mins and amazing 10 mins. He can't be trusted to protect the back 4 as he gets caught upfield too often. He is a man mountain but only seems to be able to head the ball when defending a corner.

He seems to be able to do a lung busting run in the 89th minute like a young gazelle, but looks like he was running in treacle for the previous 88 minutes. His style makes him look like a lazy lump who can't be arsed when he sits on his arse after getting tackled, throwing his arms in the air like a toddler having a tantrum.

I would go.for a high energy midfield of Fern1 and Delph in front of the back 4. Navas and sterling to start with Dave behind Aguero.

Yaya and Kev on the bench for me.

[zuricity]

The problem with Yaya is his unpredictability. He can be shit for 80mins and amazing 10 mins. He can't be trusted to protect the back 4 as he gets caught upfield too often. He is a man mountain but only seems to be able to head the ball when defending a corner.

He seems to be able to do a lung busting run in the 89th minute like a young gazelle, but looks like he was running in treacle for the previous 88 minutes. His style makes him look like a lazy lump who can't be arsed when he sits on his arse after getting tackled, throwing his arms in the air like a toddler having a tantrum.

I would go.for a high energy midfield of Fern1 and Delph in front of the back 4. Navas and sterling to start with Dave behind Aguero.

Yaya and Kev on the bench for me.

So Yaya and Kev start then ! I take it you have a Tenner on Yaya to score the first goal and Kev to get on the scoresheet too with that analysis :-)

[Wonderwall]

The problem with Yaya is his unpredictability. He can be shit for 80mins and amazing 10 mins. He can't be trusted to protect the back 4 as he gets caught upfield too often. He is a man mountain but only seems to be able to head the ball when defending a corner.

He seems to be able to do a lung busting run in the 89th minute like a young gazelle, but looks like he was running in treacle for the previous 88 minutes. His style makes him look like a lazy lump who can't be arsed when he sits on his arse after getting tackled, throwing his arms in the air like a toddler having a tantrum.

I would go.for a high energy midfield of Fern1 and Delph in front of the back 4. Navas and sterling to start with Dave behind Aguero.

Yaya and Kev on the bench for me.

So Yaya and Kev start then ! I take it you have a Tenner on Yaya to score the first goal and Kev to get on the scoresheet too with that analysis :-)

Absolutely :-) Pellers leaves me gobsmacked with his team selections at times. I just don't get it and would love to sit down with him and for him to explain the reasoning behind his starting 11 against Liverpool. I am still baffled to tis day.

[iwasthere2012]

The problem with Yaya is his unpredictability. He can be shit for 80mins and amazing 10 mins. He can't be trusted to protect the back 4 as he gets caught upfield too often. He is a man mountain but only seems to be able to head the ball when defending a corner.

He seems to be able to do a lung busting run in the 89th minute like a young gazelle, but looks like he was running in treacle for the previous 88 minutes. His style makes him look like a lazy lump who can't be arsed when he sits on his arse after getting tackled, throwing his arms in the air like a toddler having a tantrum.

I would go.for a high energy midfield of Fern1 and Delph in front of the back 4. Navas and sterling to start with Dave behind Aguero.

Yaya and Kev on the bench for me.

Regarding the lung busting runs, unfortunately the occasions where he actually gets away from his pursuers are becoming more and more infrequent.
For me that's the saddest part. He can still have a big influence, but even when he is really trying to do what he used to be able to, his body just doesn't cash the cheques.
It's the end of an era and we should try get the best out of him that we can and move on in terms of building a new model for next year.
He's still a huge part of the team, but the rest of the squad should be integrated into playing a style for the post-Yaya era to come.

[carl_feedthegoat]

The problem with Yaya is his unpredictability. He can be shit for 80mins and amazing 10 mins. He can't be trusted to protect the back 4 as he gets caught upfield too often. He is a man mountain but only seems to be able to head the ball when defending a corner.

He seems to be able to do a lung busting run in the 89th minute like a young gazelle, but looks like he was running in treacle for the previous 88 minutes. His style makes him look like a lazy lump who can't be arsed when he sits on his arse after getting tackled, throwing his arms in the air like a toddler having a tantrum.

I would go.for a high energy midfield of Fern1 and Delph in front of the back 4. Navas and sterling to start with Dave behind Aguero.

Yaya and Kev on the bench for me.

Regarding the lung busting runs, unfortunately the occasions where he actually gets away from his pursuers are becoming more and more infrequent.
For me that's the saddest part. He can still have a big influence, but even when he is really trying to do what he used to be able to, his body just doesn't cash the cheques.
It's the end of an era and we should try get the best out of him that we can and move on in terms of building a new model for next year.
He's still a huge part of the team, but the rest of the squad should be integrated into playing a style for the post-Yaya era to come.

His runs are now like his free kicks..........YAYA should never ever be in the starting 11 again but used as an impact sub which would put him into a sulk which in turn makes this point mute.....isn't going to happen is it.

I've said before , we have to put up with it till PEP gets here.

[stevefromdonny]

the thing is with yaya, that for large chunks of a game he is nowhere, he lets other players run past him even thou hes just a few feet away, he gets a ball plays it to another player after hes touched it a few times and slows it down then he goes running after the ball hes just got rid of. he needs to pass a lot faster and then find some space for himself to get the ball back, granted he might score a goal but that's getting more then not. he needs to play for 20-25 mins so he can use some of his pace when the other side is getting a bit slower

[Hazy2]

All about team set up for me, I watched Malaga V Barca last Saturday, in the stadium you see the class of Iniesta, until he has energetic Malaga players closing him down, then the legs go and he becomes a luxury passenger, class do not get me wrong but an over aged player looking his years, set up the team for Yaya to perform or find a plan without him. Pellers has to grow a pair if it the latter.

[Cocacolajojo1]

My problem with taking away Yaya from the starting line up has been, so far, that he offers something which noone else does in our current squad. However, over the last few games I've grown more and more confident that although we can't replace him like for like with anyone in the current squad (or with anyone in the world for that matter, he's unique at his best), we could tweak the side and put the duty of dictating play from deep in the hands of Fernandinho, supplemented by Otamendi. It would mean we started playing the ball upwards faster, with all the pros and cons of doing that, but Ferna's got in his locker to be that type of player. I don't doubt it one second. With proper instructions, I think he would adapt and weigh his options more before playing as well.

It would also put a bigger burden on Silva and KDB to come further down the pitch to collect the ball but I don't see why they should be exhonerated from that duty anyway. Silva used to do that, should start it again. We can't have the big gap between centre mid and and our attacking mids that we do now anyway, IMO.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

My problem with taking away Yaya from the starting line up has been, so far, that he offers something which noone else does in our current squad. However, over the last few games I've grown more and more confident that although we can't replace him like for like with anyone in the current squad (or with anyone in the world for that matter, he's unique at his best), we could tweak the side and put the duty of dictating play from deep in the hands of Fernandinho, supplemented by Otamendi. It would mean we started playing the ball upwards faster, with all the pros and cons of doing that, but Ferna's got in his locker to be that type of player. I don't doubt it one second. With proper instructions, I think he would adapt and weigh his options more before playing as well.

It would also put a bigger burden on Silva and KDB to come further down the pitch to collect the ball but I don't see why they should be exhonerated from that duty anyway. Silva used to do that, should start it again. We can't have the big gap between centre mid and and our attacking mids that we do now anyway, IMO.

Sorry mate I don't agree that Fernandinho has it in his locker to dictate play, he's a fantastic box to box player ( love seeing him getting forward ) but he doesn't possess the vision or the passing ability to control a game from deep.

Pellegrini got it spot on last night dropping Silva back to dictate next to Ferna.

[CTID Hants]

Well now we know Pep is coming in the summer, the media move to the next phase which rather predictably is who is going and who is coming to our club.

Fast out of his blocks was Yaya's agent Dimitri Seluk trying grab the limelight....

Earlier this morning he was quoted as saying "I think Yaya will leave city this summer" then sky now running with "I don't know what Guardiolas plans are,but, after what happened at Barcelona, of course it is a worry that when (pep) cones Yaya will be out. I hope not and Yaya hopes not"

So, what did happen Barcelona and if Yaya wants to stay why does Seluk draw attention to it?

Of course Seluk is a self publicising cnut of the highest order but do we now find out if it has been The Counts insistence to play Yaya every game or the clubs?

If Pellers knew a month ago he was going, in that time Yaya has not started 3 games iirc?

[Wonderwall]

Well now we know Pep is coming in the summer, the media move to the next phase which rather predictably is who is going and who is coming to our club.

Fast out of his blocks was Yaya's agent Dimitri Seluk trying grab the limelight....

Earlier this morning he was quoted as saying "I think Yaya will leave city this summer" then sky now running with "I don't know what Guardiolas plans are,but, after what happened at Barcelona, of course it is a worry that when (pep) cones Yaya will be out. I hope not and Yaya hopes not"

So, what did happen Barcelona and if Yaya wants to stay why does Seluk draw attention to it?

Of course Seluk is a self publicising cnut of the highest order but do we now find out if it has been The Counts insistence to play Yaya every game or the clubs?

If Pellers knew a month ago he was going, in that time Yaya has not started 3 games iirc?

Another signing on fee payday at PSG!?

Yaya's powers are diminishing, Unless Pep uses him for specific areas ir games, I cant see a 33 yr old Yaya fitting into the Guardiola Model.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Well now we know Pep is coming in the summer, the media move to the next phase which rather predictably is who is going and who is coming to our club.

Fast out of his blocks was Yaya's agent Dimitri Seluk trying grab the limelight....

Earlier this morning he was quoted as saying "I think Yaya will leave city this summer" then sky now running with "I don't know what Guardiolas plans are,but, after what happened at Barcelona, of course it is a worry that when (pep) cones Yaya will be out. I hope not and Yaya hopes not"

So, what did happen Barcelona and if Yaya wants to stay why does Seluk draw attention to it?

Of course Seluk is a self publicising cnut of the highest order but do we now find out if it has been The Counts insistence to play Yaya every game or the clubs?

If Pellers knew a month ago he was going, in that time Yaya has not started 3 games iirc?

Them quotes are about a month old, aren't they?

He's only been left out of the starting lineup in the league on one occasion in the last month. He sat out two before that.

Fwiw, I think it's complete and utter bollox this idea that he is forced to play Yaya.

[JamieMCFC]

Yaya Toure could leave Manchester City in the summer after it was confirmed that Pep Guardiola will take over as manager, his agent has told The Sun.

On Monday, City announced that Guardiola, who sold Toure to City when boss of Barcelona in 2010, would take over at the Etihad in the summer.

And agent Dimitry Seluk revealed he expected that to mean his client would depart.

"I think Yaya will leave the club. But before leaving, I hope he will again win the league and all the cups," he said.

"It's not a question of whether Pep likes him or not. It's life, you know."

Bayern Munich Guardiola, who has signed a three-year deal, will succeed Manuel Pellegrini, who said he would leave the club at the end of June.

Seluk appeared to question his success and added: "Barcelona win because it's like a big family, and their structure is an example for everybody.

"It's not a question of personnel. Luis Enrique has done the same as Guardiola. It's not possible to say forever that it's the team of Guardiola.

"Yaya won every trophy in England without Guardiola. Will Guardiola win without Yaya?"

Ivory Coast international Toure, 32, will have one year left on his contract at the end of the season, meaning he could be available for a cut-price transfer fee.

Chinese Super League side Shanghai SIPG and Italian giants Inter Milan have been reported as possible destinations.

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[Foreverinbluedreams]

Thing is he was likely gone regardless of whether Pellegrini had stayed or who we got in to replace him.

If you recall last Summer the quotes from Mancini in the press blatantly tapping him up, I reckon the club could care less because they were willing to let him go if we'd secured Pogba's signature.

When it was evident we weren't going to be able to lure Pogba that's when Khaldoon stepped in to convince Yaya to stay.

[Wonderwall]

Thing is he was likely gone regardless of whether Pellegrini had stayed or who we got in to replace him.

If you recall last Summer the quotes from Mancini in the press blatantly tapping him up, I reckon the club could care less because they were willing to let him go if we'd secured Pogba's signature.

When it was evident we weren't going to be able to lure Pogba that's when Khaldoon stepped in to convince Yaya to stay.

You know what, that's a very good point, I bet Pep will be blamed though! Shame Juve dont want him, I think it could be a good swap deal with a few quid chucked in.

[PeterParker]

​The ​Daily Telegraph report that Yaya Toure could be the next big name to make a big money move to China, after reportedly being offered a £30m-a-year contract.

The news breaks within a matter of hours after Jackson Martinez completed his transfer to Chinese side Guangzhou Evergrande, in a whopping £32m deal on Tuesday.

At least three Chinese clubs are thought to be highly interested in the Ivorian, Jiangsu Suning being one of those and expected to be the club that offered Toure the £30m-a-year deal.

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If the four-time African footballer accepted the offer it would make him the third highest player in the world, aged 32. Only third to Lionel Messi, £47.8m-a-year, and Cristiano Ronaldo, £39.7m-a-year.

It would see his current wage at Manchester City more than double from £240,000 a-week to just over £575,000 a-year.

The Manchester City captain signed for the club in 2010 from Barcelona, under then boss Pep Guardiola. Since going on to make over a 200 appearances for the club, winning multiple Premier League titles.

Coincidentally that same boss, Pep Guardiola, is set to take over charge of Manchester City in the summer and is set for a summer clear-out.

It is highly anticipated he is planning an expensive squad overhaul and Yaya Toure is expected to be part of that as he plans to bring in a new midfielder, among other positions.

Yaya Toure's agent has even gone to say that he 'will leave City when Pep arrives' and it is sure that should that be the case that Manchester City could expect a good fee for the central midfielder.

Although Toure would not be short of suitors from all over the world and it could take some convincing to make a move to Asia because it isn't a very high regarded level of football.

Part of that convincing would be the high amounts of money, with Chinese clubs throwing money at European players in an attempt to create a new giant league to compete with the likes of the Premier League, La Liga and the Bundesliga.
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Some of the most recent players making the trip to China include the £25m paid for Ramires and the £32m paid for Jackson Martinez proving China are willing to pay well for top players.

However that does not combat how low in prestige the Chinese league is regarded as within the footballing world and that it is generally a low level football, but in the past it has been shown that money can do a lot of convincing.

I offer to pack his bags.