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Re: Isco

Postby Blue Since 76 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:17 pm

zabbadabbado wrote:The deal is done mate it is on twitter as well, just confirmed tonight more to come,it will be all over our papers by the morning.That is just one link,all the Spanish press are reporting it.


Oh well if it's on Twitter that's it, done deal.

The key thing is the last thing you said - one link, in Marca, which every other source picks up and repeats until it looks like the truth. It'll be official when he's holding a kit on the Madrid or City web page. Until then, it's all guesswork.
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Re: Isco

Postby Saul Goodman » Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:33 pm

Isco, four years ago: "Madrid is a team I never liked [when I was little]. I get the impression it's an arrogant club."

made me laugh.


As weird as it sounds, I truly feel the ball is in our court. If we give the cash to Malaga I think we will get him. If we become unnecessarily frugal, then we won't. I understand not wanting to pay Cavani's ridiculous fee but 30M for Isco seems like a bargain. Missing out on our transfer targets hurt us last season and I believe they dont want that to happen again so we should loosen the purse strings--strings to a HUGE purse.


this Guardian article appears to be the best article out there right now:
Pellegrini could be dealt his first setback as the Manchester City manager with Málaga's Isco contemplating snubbing his former coach by turning down a move to the Etihad Stadium and signing instead for Real Madrid.

The playmaker has said that following Spain's triumph at the European Under-21 Championship team against Italy in Jerusalem he would take a holiday and then decide whether to sign for Madrid or City, having revealed he faced a straight choice between the two clubs. Isco's decision could come as early as within the next 24 hours.

Yet terms have been agreed between Málaga and Madrid for him, according to reports in Spain, and if Isco does decide to sign for Madrid it would also represent a severe blow to City's new chief executive Ferran Soriano and director of football Txiki Begiristain.

AS, a newspaper that is particularly close to Madrid, reported that Isco would sign for Madrid in a €30m (£25.5m) five-year deal following talks between the Madrid president Florentino Pérez, the Madrid director executive José Angel Sánchez and Málaga executive Vicente Casado on Friday.

During last season's doomed title defence Roberto Mancini, Pellegrini's predecessor, consistently complained of how the failure in the preceding summer to land any of the club's five main transfer targets significantly impacted on the subsequent campaign. As well as finishing second to Manchester United in the Premier League City were unable to progress to the knockout stages of the Champions League, having finished bottom of their group without recording a single victory.

Soriano and Begiristain can point to the signing of Pellegrini, as Mancini's successor, and the arrival of Fernandinho and Jesús Navas for a combined £47m as examples of the quick, efficient work that forms part of their brief. Yet with the memory of last season's championship failure a motivating factor at the club and an experience City's Abu Dhabi-based owners do not wish repeated, the prospect of losing Isco would present a sizeable blow.

There was confidence at City that having pursued Isco for so long and given Pellegrini's relationship with him, the 21-year-old he would agree to a move to Manchester. Last week Isco said of the Chilean: "He is a great coachwho has done some impressive work at Málaga, as he did at other clubs, and I am sure things will go well for him [in England]. It's true that I know Pellegrini already, I know how he works and he has been fundamental in my career during the two years I have been at Málaga with him. It's a point in favour that we worked together and that I know how he works but it's not definitive. I am going to take a holiday [after the Euro Under-21 championships], which I need, and then decide my future." The Madrid players Alvaro Morata, Dani Carvajal and Nacho, who are all colleagues of Isco in the Spain Under-21 squad, have also urged him join them at the club. Morata said: "I have been pressuring him and I've told him that Madrid is the best club in the world."
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Re: Isco

Postby Avalon » Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:36 pm

All the articles I've read are all exactly the same and don't say he has actually signed yet, but that an agreement has been reached between clubs.
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Re: Isco

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:41 pm

zabbadabbado wrote:
Blue Since 76 wrote:
zabbadabbado wrote:[url="http://www.marca.com/en/football/real_madrid.html"]http://www.marca.com/en/football/real_madrid.html[/url]


So it was tabloid bullshit then. There's a bollox thread for that
The deal is done mate it is on twitter as well, just confirmed tonight more to come,it will be all over our papers by the morning.That is just one link,all the Spanish press are reporting it.

Glass half empty type, I take it?
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Re: Isco

Postby Benjay » Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:14 pm

Avalon wrote:All the articles I've read are all exactly the same and don't say he has actually signed yet, but that an agreement has been reached between clubs.


My wife has negotiated with the local restaurant a table booking for the 2 of us next week. An agreement is in place. The decision now lies with me as to whether I accept this and go ahead with the contract (well probably not but you see the point that is being made). I am not sure the deal is dead yet...Isco has been quite vocal about things and he has not said anything..yet.

People are taking this all very personally - as if Isco snubbing us is a personal indictment on City and City fans. If he was snubbing us for Tottenham then I might see your point but he's not - he is snubbing us for Real Madrid. Its no big deal...plenty more fish etc. I am sure there is another option being looked at and so long as its not someone in the mould of Ged Brannan or Nigel Clough then thats fine by me.
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Re: Isco

Postby Avalon » Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:22 pm

Benjay wrote:
Avalon wrote:All the articles I've read are all exactly the same and don't say he has actually signed yet, but that an agreement has been reached between clubs.


[highlight]My wife has negotiated with the local restaurant a table booking for the 2 of us next week. An agreement is in place. The decision now lies with me as to whether I accept this and go ahead with the contract[/highlight] (well probably not but you see the point that is being made). I am not sure the deal is dead yet...Isco has been quite vocal about things and he has not said anything..yet


My point exactly.
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Re: Isco

Postby Benjay » Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:41 pm

I hate to quote anything in the press but the Daily Mail...."Madrid's agreement with Malaga means nothing without agreement with the player (Isco) who is torn joining his close pal David Silva and his former coach in Manchester, and joining Spain's biggest club".
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Re: Isco

Postby Saul Goodman » Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:40 am

good shit. i woke up and was upset at the RM agreement articles but now I have a good feeling about this. Sounds like the chap wants to come here...City need to grow a pair and splash the cash on him.

I think tomorrow we will have a club announcement on this matter, whether it is us or RM announcing his signing I dont know.
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Re: Isco

Postby AG7 » Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:41 am

I'm going to throw another angle here ... Pepe and De Maria have been reported wanted by Pellegrini at City, more than once before and around his appointment as our manager ... and then we have had this so called friendship pact of sorts with Real Madrid ...

Could it be that we are backing off Isco and getting something else from RM on the other end? I just don't see both Soriano and Tixki being that aloof from the whole football world and especially Spanish football that they let this slip for €5m ... and considering they authorised that kind of amount for Fernandinho just recently.

I have a feeling it's either some back door deal with Real Madrid or its not over yet and Isco still is undecided ...

Personal opinion and gut feeling ... I still think that he'll sign for us!
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Re: Isco

Postby Sideshow Bob » Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:44 am

easy to say "oh well fuck him" but lets be honest, we are desperate for a player with isco's creativity. silva has looked out of ideas since about 2011 when defenders began to suss that little reverse ball to zabba/richards. Imo there is no "plan b" for what isco could have offered us.
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Re: Isco

Postby Dameerto » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:53 am

Benjay wrote:
Thats because they have chucked stupid money at him, rather like we did at Tevez and YaYa a few years ago. Our wage bill is the highest team wage bill in the sporting world and its not sustainable even with the loopholes that there are with FFP. At some point UEFA will get FFP in order and we will need to be ready. Hence Cavani is a no go. We are not not going to win the league because we dont get Isco. There will be a Plan B. I would rather have players for the long term. Falcao wont be at monaco in 3 years. If Isco wants to sign for City then its for the right reasons, not because we have chucked the most money at him. Silva signed cos he felt how much the club wanted him. Compare that to Bridge, Adebayor etc who signed for the money. Its endemic in football and I dont want to see it at City. You sign for City because you want to.


This just isn't true, when that survey came out recently it was from collated from just 14 leagues in seven sports in ten countries, it didn't include the French first tier of football so there's no PSG or Monaco in the figures either. It didn't include every league from the same sport as us and it didn't include every sport in the world so there is no way the author of the piece of journalism I'm assuming both you and I have read should be making those claims about us, at best it is lazy journalism at worst it is malicious misrepresentation.
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Re: Isco

Postby Tesl » Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:11 am

Hazy2 wrote:Ted FFS Is nobody allowed to sound off over this,.


That is to say, you haven't put any actual thought into this at all but just want to rant and complain and blame people anyway due to your magically high expectations?

I always wonder if people like you live your entire lives without bothering to logically think through anything at all. Boggles the mind.
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Re: Isco

Postby john@staustell » Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:26 am

As someone said all the Spanish press are now saying it's a done deal. Time to move on.

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Re: Isco

Postby Slim » Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:07 am

john@staustell wrote:As someone said all the Spanish press are now saying it's a done deal. Time to move on.

Txiki out!


It's not looking good, but as someone said, the Marca is a mouthpiece for Real and the story is being cloned by the rest of the Spanish press. Let's just see it play out and I guess we can cross our fingers and pray to the Lord our saviour that he comes here.
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Re: Isco

Postby maxxi » Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:19 am

Hazard saga spring to mind (-_-#)
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Re: Isco

Postby blues2win » Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:26 am

Pay the fucking reserve fee and we'll get him.
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Re: Isco

Postby avoidconfusion » Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:48 am

Ah well at least we splashed 30m on Fernandinho....
so now as every enemy circles our city
sour and sore, we swear war
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Re: Isco

Postby Hazy2 » Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:11 am

Tesl wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:Ted FFS Is nobody allowed to sound off over this,.


That is to say, you haven't put any actual thought into this at all but just want to rant and complain and blame people anyway due to your magically high expectations?

I always wonder if people like you live your entire lives without bothering to logically think through anything at all. Boggles the mind.


If I was logical I would have sued Manchester Cityu for 35 lost yrs you clown, I was 6 months ahead of most on here with get Isco, so yes high expectations, we have to aim high, or are you missing somthing when you watch the best teams play. BM and now Monaco are landing the best without much trouble. PSG have had no trouble landing one of the best squads in world football, a project started after us. You can wonder what you want mate we in dogfight every time we look to buy a player. I am sure we have done a decent job in getting close to him, Just you dangle that type of player, I want him, and I am sure Pelli is thinking the same.
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Re: Isco

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:14 am

Hazy2 wrote:
Tesl wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:Ted FFS Is nobody allowed to sound off over this,.


That is to say, you haven't put any actual thought into this at all but just want to rant and complain and blame people anyway due to your magically high expectations?

I always wonder if people like you live your entire lives without bothering to logically think through anything at all. Boggles the mind.


If I was logical I would have sued Manchester Cityu for 35 lost yrs you clown, I was 6 months ahead of most on here with get Isco, so yes high expectations, we have to aim high, or are you missing somthing when you watch the best teams play. BM and now Monaco are landing the best without much trouble. PSG have had no trouble landing one of the best squads in world football, a project started after us. You can wonder what you want mate we in dogfight every time we look to buy a player. I am sure we have done a decent job in getting close to him, Just you dangle that type of player, I want him, and I am sure Pelli is thinking the same.


I posted on here probably a year ago or more that the Sky Spain commentator had said City were trying to sign Isco.

Trouble is, he is right under the noses of Real Madrid etc & what we see, they see. Barca had a go & didn't get him.
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Re: Isco

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:16 am

blues2win wrote:Pay the fucking reserve fee and we'll get him.


So you know he doesn't want to sign for Real then ?

Happy days, he's ours then. If he's willing to sign, we will pay. Nice one.
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