Tevez hands in transfer request?????

[13021J]

Tevez told a City fan at Carrington "I stay I stay"

That's good enough for me!

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Yeah I read this and was surprised it wasn't mentioned anywhere else. Could be a load of bullshit, his English doesn't seem that good. FairPlay to the guy who wrote on his Hummer!!

[lets all have a disco]

Tevez told a City fan at Carrington "I stay I stay"

That's good enough for me!

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If he renegades on this im gonna get a tasty crew together throw on my black coat and donnay trackies head off to Prestbury and kick fuck out of the gate to his house.


Almost forgot we'll have baseball bats and Balaclavas on.

[ant london]

Tevez told a City fan at Carrington "I stay I stay"

That's good enough for me!

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If he renegades on this im gonna get a tasty crew together throw on my black coat and donnay trackies head off to Prestbury and kick fuck out of the gate to his house.


Almost forgot we'll have baseball bats and Balaclavas on.

I have to say he doesn't look very fucking unhappy in that photo

this is all a bit bloody odd

[john68]

I fully expect that Tevez will be happy to be picked and to give 100% on the pitch whilst he remains at City. I don't think that once he pulls on a jersey, he knows any other way of playing. I would not be suprised if he was MOM and scored against Everton.

I sort of feel a bit sorry for him. I get the feeling that all he wants is to kick a football and play the game. All this is well over his head, he is out of his depth in this political battle between KJ and the Club.

I think he is just a pawn in the greedy machinations of KJ who sees this as a great opportunity to line his own pockets.

[ant london]

I fully expect that Tevez will be happy to be picked and to give 100% on the pitch whilst he remains at City. I don't think that once he pulls on a jersey, he knows any other way of playing. I would not be suprised if he was MOM and scored against Everton.

I sort of feel a bit sorry for him. I get the feeling that all he wants is to kick a football and play the game. All this is well over his head, he is out of his depth in this political battle between KJ and the Club.

I think he is just a pawn in the greedy machinations of KJ who sees this as a great opportunity to line his own pockets.

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchesterevening ... n_training?

look at this gallery.....i'm honestly bamboozled.....he looks happy as a sandboy

PLUS....Gai Assulin....at Carrington, training

[brite blu sky]

Im going for a John68 style calm down thing here. What do we know?

CT wasn't happy in August, told someone.
Cook made some assurances - allegedly. CT is happy enough.
CT has a bit of a row with Mancini.
CT does interview saying he is happy enough to stay.
City beat WHU without CT - CT issues statement to say he has handed in a Transfer Request, citing disappointment with execs.
Press and everyone goes bannanas - speculation starts.
CT confirms it is not about money and is about some unspecified assurances not met.

Conclusion. Tevez is not happy about something at the club, recieved assurances and hasn't seen them happen, decides to force the issue in time honoured desperate move of asking for a transfer. Minds will now be focussed on sorting it if possible.
The club is having a disagreement that CT has made public.

Life goes on, the best players get picked for Everton and amid the publicity turn it on to smash the fuclers. City move up the table.

[Beefymcfc]

Let's break this statement down:

Kia Joorabchian: Manchester City reneged on promises made to Carlos Tévez

The transfer of Yaya Touré.

“I’m not an agent so I don’t act as an agent,” he said. “You can see evidence that Manchester City invited me to help them so to suggest anything else is wrong.”

And that's why you weren't paid, but if you are not an agent, why would the club ask? And, you state later that you are not really welcome at the club, so once again, why would they ask?

Joorabchian refuted suggestions that Tévez might refuse to play for City. “I want to be clear that Carlos has never said he is not going to play or train or be professional. So those rumours are rubbish,” he said.

Then why leak such information to Neil Ashton unless it was a bluff - that has been called?

“He will play if picked and 100 per cent do his best. He feels that is important every time he puts on the shirt. He always gives 100 per cent. ”

And so he should do, he wouldn't want to let the fan's, or himself down, especially as he's putting himself in the shop window. Oh, and there's the little matter of his wages and breach of contract, isn't there..

Nevertheless Tévez had wanted to leave City at the end of last season. “When Carlos Tévez first signed for Manchester City there was a reason why he signed. He saw the vision of the owner and the way the club wanted to go,”

So what has changed, the project and vision is still in place?

“Carlos is a winner, everywhere he has been in his life he has been a winner. He decided he would sign for the club, play one year outside of the Champions League and hopefully take this club into the next phase.

What about West Ham, was he a winner there? And, why did he not sign a one year contract or at least write in a get-out clause?

“When he joined City he made a commitment that this was what he wanted to do. At the end of last season, after all the turmoil that went on, Carlos was bitterly disappointed because they didn’t qualify for the Champions League.

So, he should try twice as hard for not getting us there in the 1st place, afterall, we allowed him the time to sort himself out in his first season and subsequently since then.

"And he felt the situation at the club was not going in the same direction as he imagined it would be going. He played out of his skin, did everything he possibly could.

So, second in the league when this came out is not the same direction, afterall, he does want Championsm League doesn't he?

“In the summer he wanted to leave. I then spent most of my summer travelling all around the world talking to the chairman of Manchester City [Khaldoon Al Mubarak] and to Carlos in order to try and convince him that we should try to find an agreement that would allow us and help us to go to the next phase.

Why would you travel around for him, you're not his agent, are you? And, what was the agreement - money perhaps?

"He would then not feel like he wanted to leave. I think I managed to successfully convince Carlos to speak to the chairman and let the two of them find a harmonious way to get this back on track.

So, a satisfactory outcome was found and he played on. And if you'd already sorted it with Khaldoon, why the problem with Cook - who's the boss?

“I’m surprised at the club’s reaction because they were fully aware of the situation and how I was helping. The two of them spoke and they spoke with the rest of the management.

Still not an agent then?

"The chairman asked Carlos to stay and the management agreed that he had certain issues that he wanted dealt with. They wanted to wait until Sept 1 to address the issues he had because they wanted to concentrate on the transfer window.”

Issue's, what issue's? We got the player's, we've got the staff, we are next to the top of the league - what issue's? And why wait until he wouldn't be able to leave knowing he would be stuck here?

However, Joorabchian said, it was the failure to address these ‘issues’ that changed everything. “Through September Carlos again began to get disillusioned because his viewpoint was it was not happening. His view was that they had agreed and spoke and promises were made to him and now the window was closed these issues were not being resolved.

Issue's again, eh? We've been in or around the top of the league all season, so it couldn't be that, could it? Couldn't be a player thing either, because he was willing to wait for them to come in in the first place and knew no more could be brought in. Or, was it the style of play with him needing help up-front? Well, it may have been an issue but that has now clearly been adressed so should no longer be a concern.

"Carlos wanted to leave, I went to speak to them and they said there would be a new contract, new clauses in the contract etc. They sent the proposal, we countered one time and then we said ‘you know what Carlos doesn’t want it, thank you very much, no’.”

Is that because it wasn't effective immediately and you'd have to wait until the summer? If it was about clauses regarding him able to leave, why didn't he sign it and then just leave, afterall, he would've got the get-out clause he wanted? But obviously, clearly not about the money!

“I’m absolutely confident that the emails will show we acted in a correct manner at all times,” Joorabchian said. “I feel absolutely confident that if everyone is happy to make that public we have not done anything unprofessional or behaved in anything other than a correct manner.

So, if you are negotiating with the club on behalf of Carlos, does that not make you an agent?

“If we have to show a dossier that is chronological and shows the whole picture from start to finish, so that people can see what has gone on, then I’m confident that I have nothing to hide and nothing to worry about.”

Please show it, it would make for interesting reading. Also, do we now do deal's by way of E-Mail, especially multi-million pound ones?

He added: “Carlos has been very clear that this was his decision and he has not been influenced by anyone else.

I would hope not, but what advice have you been giving him? Oh, and isn't that his agents duty?

“The people who work for the club should be ‘thinking there is a problem here, how do we find a solution to this problem’ rather than fuelling the fire.”

I thought he just wanted out, how do you find a solution to an irreversible situation?

Joorabchian’s relationship with City chief executive Garry Cook has also come under scrutiny. “For anyone to think that either me or Garry Cook are bigger than the story of the club is ridiculous. I don’t think I am important enough or he is important enough,” he said of the former Nike executive who Joorabchian says he helped get his job at City.

“I introduced them and in fact I acted as his agent and increased his salary more than four times what he was being earned in the States. He even offered me a commission, which I turned down,” he said.

“Garry was not involved in the Carlos Tévez transfer at all and I think maybe through that and other issues the whole concept of the job took him by surprise. He just thought ‘oh my God, this is brilliant I’m in charge of this club’.

"I definitely don’t see this as about me and Garry Cook. Carlos is his own man and has his own strong opinions and to suggest that this is about me and Garry Cook is a joke. Carlos’ issues with the club have nothing to do with my relationship with Garry. My relationship with him has been like it is for two years, it didn’t start on yesterday.”

Is this why you had to chase Khaldoon around the world, knowing that Cook would not deal with you? 2 years in the wilderness is a bit of a slap in the face, isn't it?

“Right now Carlos has made his point very clearly that he has issues,” he said. “At a certain time the club and Carlos will have to sit down and try and find an amicable solution here It’s much more constructive for people like Garry and myself to work to find solutions rather than any ideas that we are trying to influence.

What is this amicable solution - money, early release or something more? And why would it be easier for you and Garry to work to find solution's when the reality is that you are not an agent and therefore have no bearing on the club whatsoever? Or do you want back into the fold for some reason and real crux of the matter is your issue's with Garry rather than Carlos' issue's with the club?

"Everybody is being hurt by this right now.”

Especially you!

[brite blu sky]

I smell something different, ok taking KJ at his word and Tevez for that matter. If this whole thing is about ambition and player aquisitions to back up that ambition.
Hughes went because they decided he couldn't bring the players needed?
They promise a manager who can. and make assurances on new players.
They fail to bring in the players.. namely strikers.

They have used KJ to try and help bring in players throughout, but the Club decided that they could do without him or do better or are not impressed.

Sum total it is about bringing players in to match the ambition and the failure so far to do that. Feasible?

[lets all have a disco]

I smell something different, ok taking KJ at his word and Tevez for that matter. If this whole thing is about ambition and player aquisitions to back up that ambition.
Hughes went because they decided he couldn't bring the players needed?
They promise a manager who can. and make assurances on new players.
They fail to bring in the players.. namely strikers.

They have used KJ to try and help bring in players throughout, but the Club decided that they could do without him or do better or are not impressed.

Sum total it is about bringing players in to match the ambition and the failure so far to do that. Feasible?

[Ted Hughes]

I smell something different, ok taking KJ at his word and Tevez for that matter. If this whole thing is about ambition and player aquisitions to back up that ambition.
Hughes went because they decided he couldn't bring the players needed?
They promise a manager who can. and make assurances on new players.
They fail to bring in the players.. namely strikers.

They have used KJ to try and help bring in players throughout, but the Club decided that they could do without him or do better or are not impressed.

Sum total it is about bringing players in to match the ambition and the failure so far to do that. Feasible?

It's feasible but is it really likely?

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

[BobKowalski]

I smell something different, ok taking KJ at his word and Tevez for that matter. If this whole thing is about ambition and player aquisitions to back up that ambition.
Hughes went because they decided he couldn't bring the players needed?
They promise a manager who can. and make assurances on new players.
They fail to bring in the players.. namely strikers.

They have used KJ to try and help bring in players throughout, but the Club decided that they could do without him or do better or are not impressed.

Sum total it is about bringing players in to match the ambition and the failure so far to do that. Feasible?

I think the one major flaw is your premise 'ok taking KJ at his word'

Besides whilst you can go for players you cannot guarantee they will arrive and as far as I am aware we went for and got most of our target players, Toure, Silva, Milner etc. If KJ was unhappy on behalf of Tevez at the players we went after and got then a) you would think he would have noticed and said something at the time and b) City's transfer policy has got fuck all to do with him anyway which I guess is really the point.

Its all about money and KJ settling the score with Cook. The rest is just window dressing and fairly transparent window dressing at that.

[Beefymcfc]

I smell something different, ok taking KJ at his word and Tevez for that matter. If this whole thing is about ambition and player aquisitions to back up that ambition.
Hughes went because they decided he couldn't bring the players needed?
They promise a manager who can. and make assurances on new players.
They fail to bring in the players.. namely strikers.

They have used KJ to try and help bring in players throughout, but the Club decided that they could do without him or do better or are not impressed.

Sum total it is about bringing players in to match the ambition and the failure so far to do that. Feasible?

This has been my perception of things for a while, confirmed by the little bust-up when Carlos was brought off. In the clubs defence, it wasn't as if they didn't try for some big name's and if they knew about this Dzeko message in August, I'm sure they would have passed that info to Carlos to keep him appeased. Then when you look at the quality of the other player's brought in, you'd have to say that you'd be more than impressed with our intent.

I think there are actually 2 issue's, the one you mention and the other being Mancio's early season tactic's, putting Carlos under massive pressure to win game's for us with very little help. That's why after the bust-up in the dressing room, we seen an all-round better attacking display from the team and a tactical point of view. And that's why Joor-a-cuntoid chose this time to manipulate Carlos into the request, knowing that it was now or never as we were beginning to look the real deal.

[brite blu sky]

I smell something different, ok taking KJ at his word and Tevez for that matter. If this whole thing is about ambition and player aquisitions to back up that ambition.
Hughes went because they decided he couldn't bring the players needed?
They promise a manager who can. and make assurances on new players.
They fail to bring in the players.. namely strikers.

They have used KJ to try and help bring in players throughout, but the Club decided that they could do without him or do better or are not impressed.

Sum total it is about bringing players in to match the ambition and the failure so far to do that. Feasible?

Is that Doomie with a wig on? are you suggesting this all started over a pint in NY?

[svengali]

Well said Beefy.

Nicely dissected.

Should be pasted everywhere on websites running these quotes.

Kia obviously gutted he hasn't seen his name in the papers for a year or so.

[brite blu sky]

I smell something different, ok taking KJ at his word and Tevez for that matter. If this whole thing is about ambition and player aquisitions to back up that ambition.
Hughes went because they decided he couldn't bring the players needed?
They promise a manager who can. and make assurances on new players.
They fail to bring in the players.. namely strikers.

They have used KJ to try and help bring in players throughout, but the Club decided that they could do without him or do better or are not impressed.

Sum total it is about bringing players in to match the ambition and the failure so far to do that. Feasible?

This has been my perception of things for a while, confirmed by the little bust-up when Carlos was brought off. In the clubs defence, it wasn't as if they didn't try for some big name's and if they knew about this Dzeko message in August, I'm sure they would have passed that info to Carlos to keep him appeased. Then when you look at the quality of the other player's brought in, you'd have to say that you'd be more than impressed with our intent.

I think there are actually 2 issue's, the one you mention and the other being Mancio's early season tactic's, putting Carlos under massive pressure to win game's for us with very little help. That's why after the bust-up in the dressing room, we seen an all-round better attacking display from the team and a tactical point of view. And that's why Joor-a-cuntoid chose this time to manipulate Carlos into the request, knowing that it was now or never as we were beginning to look the real deal.

Well as i am banging on about there is a possibility this is what it is about. As for the players we brought yes great, but no dependable out and out strikers! We tried and failed. KJ could have a beef about that if he was sidelined around the same time. Tevez would be aware of that due to relation with KJ.
But Carlos is not working for KJ, and so the transfer request has to be about forcing City. Tevez has a point as it is he that has taken and has to take the burden on the pitch.

[Fesan]

One ought to think that bringing in maybe the hottest striker talent in europe (Balotelli) over the summer would count as making the squad stronger? Nomatter his injury trouble that is a statement of intent.

[svengali]

I smell something different, ok taking KJ at his word and Tevez for that matter. If this whole thing is about ambition and player aquisitions to back up that ambition.
Hughes went because they decided he couldn't bring the players needed?
They promise a manager who can. and make assurances on new players.
They fail to bring in the players.. namely strikers.

They have used KJ to try and help bring in players throughout, but the Club decided that they could do without him or do better or are not impressed.

Sum total it is about bringing players in to match the ambition and the failure so far to do that. Feasible?

This has been my perception of things for a while, confirmed by the little bust-up when Carlos was brought off. In the clubs defence, it wasn't as if they didn't try for some big name's and if they knew about this Dzeko message in August, I'm sure they would have passed that info to Carlos to keep him appeased. Then when you look at the quality of the other player's brought in, you'd have to say that you'd be more than impressed with our intent.

I think there are actually 2 issue's, the one you mention and the other being Mancio's early season tactic's, putting Carlos under massive pressure to win game's for us with very little help. That's why after the bust-up in the dressing room, we seen an all-round better attacking display from the team and a tactical point of view. And that's why Joor-a-cuntoid chose this time to manipulate Carlos into the request, knowing that it was now or never as we were beginning to look the real deal.

Well as i am banging on about there is a possibility this is what it is about. As for the players we brought yes great, but no dependable out and out strikers! We tried and failed. KJ could have a beef about that if he was sidelined around the same time. Tevez would be aware of that due to relation with KJ.
But Carlos is not working for KJ, and so the transfer request has to be about forcing City. Tevez has a point as it is he that has taken and has to take the burden on the pitch.

Are you actually serious. A striker has to take the burden of... Hang on... Let me get this straight... Playing up front on his own? Its the system we play! The rags play it, as do Chelsea. God it must be horrid doing what your paid to do, what a burden of being top scorer.

As mentioned above, we have Balotelli and Adebayor as well! Also Santa cruz and Jo if needed.

[Beefymcfc]

Well said Beefy.

Nicely dissected.

Should be pasted everywhere on websites running these quotes.

Kia obviously gutted he hasn't seen his name in the papers for a year or so.

Cheers mate, it's all about him being frozen-out in my eye's, aided by Carlos' unhappiness at feeling he needs to do it all on his own (which shouldn't be an issue now).

'It's just a bit of a palaver'!

[BobKowalski]

I smell something different, ok taking KJ at his word and Tevez for that matter. If this whole thing is about ambition and player aquisitions to back up that ambition.
Hughes went because they decided he couldn't bring the players needed?
They promise a manager who can. and make assurances on new players.
They fail to bring in the players.. namely strikers.

They have used KJ to try and help bring in players throughout, but the Club decided that they could do without him or do better or are not impressed.

Sum total it is about bringing players in to match the ambition and the failure so far to do that. Feasible?

This has been my perception of things for a while, confirmed by the little bust-up when Carlos was brought off. In the clubs defence, it wasn't as if they didn't try for some big name's and if they knew about this Dzeko message in August, I'm sure they would have passed that info to Carlos to keep him appeased. Then when you look at the quality of the other player's brought in, you'd have to say that you'd be more than impressed with our intent.

I think there are actually 2 issue's, the one you mention and the other being Mancio's early season tactic's, putting Carlos under massive pressure to win game's for us with very little help. That's why after the bust-up in the dressing room, we seen an all-round better attacking display from the team and a tactical point of view. And that's why Joor-a-cuntoid chose this time to manipulate Carlos into the request, knowing that it was now or never as we were beginning to look the real deal.

So you think they keep Carlos in the loop re transfer activity? Personally I don't as I just don't see anyone at the club sitting down with Carlos to chat transfer strategy over tea and crumpets and see whether he is happy or not. I don't see anyone doing it with KJ either because KJ City had already shown him the door.

Its the same with tactics with a more flowing pattern emerging along with attacking intent. Its only more evident now because the players are now more up to speed and have had time to adjust to what Mancini wants and the pace etc of the PL. Time was always going to be the key factor and not dressing room arguments during the Newcastle game which was followed some weeks later by the 0-0 Birmingham bore fest so its not as if the timeline fits anyway.

[Beefymcfc]

I smell something different, ok taking KJ at his word and Tevez for that matter. If this whole thing is about ambition and player aquisitions to back up that ambition.
Hughes went because they decided he couldn't bring the players needed?
They promise a manager who can. and make assurances on new players.
They fail to bring in the players.. namely strikers.

They have used KJ to try and help bring in players throughout, but the Club decided that they could do without him or do better or are not impressed.

Sum total it is about bringing players in to match the ambition and the failure so far to do that. Feasible?

This has been my perception of things for a while, confirmed by the little bust-up when Carlos was brought off. In the clubs defence, it wasn't as if they didn't try for some big name's and if they knew about this Dzeko message in August, I'm sure they would have passed that info to Carlos to keep him appeased. Then when you look at the quality of the other player's brought in, you'd have to say that you'd be more than impressed with our intent.

I think there are actually 2 issue's, the one you mention and the other being Mancio's early season tactic's, putting Carlos under massive pressure to win game's for us with very little help. That's why after the bust-up in the dressing room, we seen an all-round better attacking display from the team and a tactical point of view. And that's why Joor-a-cuntoid chose this time to manipulate Carlos into the request, knowing that it was now or never as we were beginning to look the real deal.

So you think they keep Carlos in the loop re transfer activity? Personally I don't as I just don't see anyone at the club sitting down with Carlos to chat transfer strategy over tea and crumpets and see whether he is happy or not. I don't see anyone doing it with KJ either because KJ City had already shown him the door.

Who said anything about sitting him down and talking transfers, more a quiet word in his shell like.

Its the same with tactics with a more flowing pattern emerging along with attacking intent. Its only more evident now because the players are now more up to speed and have had time to adjust to what Mancini wants and the pace etc of the PL. Time was always going to be the key factor and not dressing room arguments during the Newcastle game which was followed some weeks later by the 0-0 Birmingham bore fest so its not as if the timeline fits anyway.

The dressing room incident was just the pent-up fustration which continued onwards, then manifested itself again when subbed against Bolton, with Carlos slyly gesturing that Balotelli should've been off and Mancio having to state why he kept Mario on. These incidents are when I believe Joor-a-twaty-bollox used his slimey manipulative way's to wrangle even deeper into Carlos' mind.