Good call Jon, I think Mancio4ever is trying to do his best getting his point across with limited English. A little patience and it is not difficult to work out what he is trying to say. I think mancio4ever also has had major difficulty understanding the City and Manc sense of humour. That has led to a few misunderstandings, taking some glib remarks far too seriously and picking fights with other top posters such as Carl and BBS.
Maybe time to take a step back, call a truce and start again.
The difference with Antti is that he is part of the furniture here and understands the score. Plus, Antti deserved the grief...:-)
This need whacking with a good sized 3x2.
There is one issue only and it is about how someone who has seriously limited understanding of a language in use, but doesn't have the humility or self awareness to understand that.
I learnt a new language by going to the country and learning it from the people, clients and friends, going to bars, pool halls, weekend raves, after parties and you name it, school as well. In addition to that i had to get my business going as fast as possible. I didnt speak to any english speakers for two years to force myself to 'embed'. That said when i was learning and i go somewhere i dont know anyone, say a pool bar full of locals, i keep my trap shut and listen, learn the way people communicate, the humour and the way people really talk. If i chatted i kept is simple and the key thing here is if i wasn't sure of exactly what someone is meaning i dont go off on one trying to look like i fuclin know what im talking about when i clearly dont.
Out of interest and to back up how that pays off, locals anywhere have little patience when struggling to understand someone talking pidgeon babelfish... i still see ex-pats who got to school who cant hold a conversation with locals without boring the fuclin pants off them in 5 mins, by contrast i can go out with a group of locals all night and have them rolling around splitting their sides. Why? because i had the fuclin humility to come and learn how people actually talk and behave, from scratch.
Que coñazo coño!