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[Beefymcfc]

Beefy as i mentioned in the game thread. On ORF they have a pro ref (retired) to discuss such situations and of the three shouts for a pen last night he was adamant that the last two were clear penalties. Not the UK media mind !

That's what happens though, doesn't it mate. The British media drive the agenda and the PL play fiddle to ensure they're giving them what they want.

Overseas there's no real need to, which is sometimes a breath of thresh air.

[dazby]

Thresh air?

Doesn't read nice.

[Beefymcfc]

Thresh air?

Doesn't read nice.

Oops.

[gillie]

Just found this on football365 interesting as it comes from a rag.



Is United’s debt starting to bite?
Given the way things are going, I’ve been wondering: is the debt at United finally having an effect on the football side of things? One would think that, with the record TV revenue and Adidas sponsorship deal, we’d be able to afford almost any player we wanted. In reality it doesn’t seem that is really the case; we’re bringing in piles of cash (projected to make £0.5bn this calendar year), so where is the money going – servicing the debt, probably.

Moyes kept talking about the type of players he wanted to bring in; Fabregas, Bale, Vidal and Ronaldo were all mentioned – none happened, yet three of those four moved to other clubs. We eventually did sign Mata and Fellaini but the former was widely known to be available (as he didn’t feature in Mourinho’s plans), while Fellaini had a release clause, so both were doable transfers.

Van Gaal eventually trimmed the fat of the squad, moving on Fletcher, Nani, Hernandez, van Persie, Rafael and a few others. His signings have all been similarly themed too; highly rated youngsters with great sell-on potential (Martial, Depay, Shaw), mid-range players on “reasonable” wages and with decent sell-on value (Herrera, Schneiderlin, Blind, Rojo, Darmian), as well as two freebies (Valdes and Romero). Schweinsteiger is the obvious exception but van Gaal himself admitted he had to persuade the board to sign him.

He also admitted to deliberately creating a small squad, apparently so that he could blood the youngsters, but when has this really been the United philosophy, other than the Class of ’92? Yes, it’s been important to get youngsters in the team previously, but usually as supplementary players – not to be relied upon as heavily as we are doing now.

It’s not beyond the realms of possibility that both he and Moyes were told that there isn’t as much money to spend now the debts have matured. Moyes couldn’t sign his top-level targets, while the board relented for van Gaal but only after he’d reduced the size of the squad.

It would also explain why the Martial deal was so heavily weighted toward add-ons, rather than all up front. We could afford to negotiate that kind of potentially huge deal, knowing that PSG or Real Madrid will likely step in and buy him if he turns out to be any good, rendering those clauses moot. If not, we probably wouldn’t have to pay out; win/win. A cynic could even suggest that this was the reason for both Ferguson and Gill leaving at the same time; neither wanted to have their reputations tarnished by this kind of disappointment, particularly if Gill has designs on the FA Chairman position or a role at UEFA.

Furthermore, why else would Giggs be such a firm favourite to get the job next if money wasn’t an issue? He has no business being a genuine candidate, having never managed permanently before, therefore would probably be quite cheap (no compensation to pay and “modest” wages probably) and he is the ultimate “yes man” at United – his long-standing association with the club and Sir Alex assures that. In Van Gaal they went for a manager who had previous with working under strict constraints (i.e. the World Cup) and also had form for blooding youngsters. It also explains why they apparently unsuccessfully approached Jurgen Klopp while he was still at Dortmund. They could also have made a play for Koeman, though it’s only hindsight that shows what a good manager he is with reasonably limited resources.

I would be very surprised if Jose does indeed rock up at Old Trafford any time in the near future. If Louis does get sacked before/at the end of the season then it’ll be Giggs next – in fact even if van Gaal sees out his contract it’ll be Giggs, they’ll just get to say that it was always the plan.

I admit that it’s a bit of an “Area 51” conspiracy theory, but there are some valid points to it. Either way, we won’t have to wait very long to find out – our season could be over in the next 17 days if we’re knocked out of the Europa League and FA Cup; both of which look quite likely right now, so it could be sooner rather than later.
Ted, Manchester

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Didn't read that whole thing but since bacon left they've spent over £200million net on players and their wage bill is over £200million a year so I don't know what the fuck he's going on about.

[iwasthere2012]

Far too sensible to be written by a United fan.
I think we have found out where Ted has gone. He's working undercover.

[zuricity]

Thresh air?

Doesn't read nice.

Oops.

Slim, reach out and give him a slap .

[Beefymcfc]

Thresh air?

Doesn't read nice.

Oops.

Slim, reach out and give him a slap .

Fucking leave it out pal, I'll have the grammar police booting down the door ;-)

[city72]

BBC football focus interviewed klopp then kolo toure still waiting to see someone from the city camp for tomorrow's final to be interviewed.

[CuteMancs]

BBC football focus interviewed klopp then kolo toure still waiting to see someone from the city camp for tomorrow's final to be interviewed.

Funny that, Sky are also advertising an interview with Klopp

What media agenda ?

[zuricity]

Thresh air?

Doesn't read nice.

Oops.

Slim, reach out and give him a slap .

Fucking leave it out pal, I'll have the grammar police booting down the door ;-)

Not you ! the other one !

[Beefymcfc]

Any of the media outlets bothered to pop over to City Campus? I hear the Beeb, who are based just 3 miles away, chose to drive to Melwood and somehow totally missed the club just around the corner.

[Beefymcfc]

Thresh air?

Doesn't read nice.

Oops.

Slim, reach out and give him a slap .

Fucking leave it out pal, I'll have the grammar police booting down the door ;-)

Not you ! the other one !

Ah, that's fine then. Dazby loves a good going over.

[john@staustell]

BBC football focus interviewed klopp then kolo toure still waiting to see someone from the city camp for tomorrow's final to be interviewed.

Funny that, Sky are also advertising an interview with Klopp

What media agenda ?

I certainly won't be watching the pre-match Dippers love in. I'll watch Scum then switch channels until kick off

[Beefymcfc]

BBC football focus interviewed klopp then kolo toure still waiting to see someone from the city camp for tomorrow's final to be interviewed.

Funny that, Sky are also advertising an interview with Klopp

What media agenda ?

I certainly won't be watching the pre-match Dippers love in. I'll watch Scum then switch channels until kick off

I'll be driving back to Germany first thing tomorrow and I'm hoping I make it back just in time for kick off. Will definitely miss the Rag v Arse match and the majority of our build-up (or should I say, Dipper build-up).

[City64]

Well its all kicked off on twitter tonight before the final tomorrow !!! Mike scouse cunt Parry has tweeted we (City) "were fucking shit for 40 years with shit fans" and " its good v evil at Wembley tomorrow "


Stuart Brennan from M.E.N has waded into him plus loads of blues .......... what a cunt !

[Blue In Bolton]

Well its all kicked off on twitter tonight before the final tomorrow !!! Mike scouse cunt Parry has tweeted we (City) "were fucking shit for 40 years with shit fans" and " its good v evil at Wembley tomorrow "


Stuart Brennan from M.E.N has waded into him plus loads of blues .......... what a cunt !

Couldn't agree more with the last part of your quote mate. And all this from somebody who didn't have a fucking clue who Yaya Toure was prior to City signing him which for me speaks volumes about this know-nothing twat.

[Wonderwall]

Well its all kicked off on twitter tonight before the final tomorrow !!! Mike scouse cunt Parry has tweeted we (City) "were fucking shit for 40 years with shit fans" and " its good v evil at Wembley tomorrow "


Stuart Brennan from M.E.N has waded into him plus loads of blues .......... what a cunt !

Couldn't agree more with the last part of your quote mate. And all this from somebody who didn't have a fucking clue who Yaya Toure was prior to City signing him which for me speaks volumes about this know-nothing twat.

He is one of the biggest cunts on this planet. I rarely use the "C word" but it was created with this vermin in mind.

[john@staustell]

To be fair he is one of the stupidest people on radio - if not THE stupidest. Special needs.

[The Maine Man]

SSNs impartial preview of the game. Let's fuck their day up!
http://www.skysports.com/share/10179598