Tevez hands in transfer request?????

[Ted Hughes]

I think its a number of things starting with sacking mark hughes, tevez liked him and wanted stabillity and i think the club sacking hughes in the way they did pissed him off and he thought thats the reason we didnt get champions league. Then having bust ups with mancini about training etc,,,

When ballotelli came and got a starting spot and plays for himself rather than the team pissed tevez off and how mancini seemed to favour him. I think tevez is hurt by the fact mancini dont put his arm round him enough and makes him feel wanted, i think he has done this to shock the club so they tell mancini to start showing tevez a lot more respect.

Wouldn't it be easier to have said so, instead of having a go at Gary Cook?

i dont know but wasnt cook the one who didnt give hughes the respect he deserved with how he was sacked etc..?

He wouldnt as a "man" want to come out and say again that he dosent feel wanted as maybe he would feel like a big girl? I just think its about how mancini is with him and how he feels ballotelli gets special treatment when he has worked his ass off for the club since he has been here more than probably any other player ive seen at city in my time.

I'm sure most of the players are a bit unhappy with Balotelli's attitude but that's not what Tevez, or more accurately his controller, seem to be giving amongst their reasons for wanting to leave.

[BlueMoonAwoken]

I think its a number of things starting with sacking mark hughes, tevez liked him and wanted stabillity and i think the club sacking hughes in the way they did pissed him off and he thought thats the reason we didnt get champions league. Then having bust ups with mancini about training etc,,,

When ballotelli came and got a starting spot and plays for himself rather than the team pissed tevez off and how mancini seemed to favour him. I think tevez is hurt by the fact mancini dont put his arm round him enough and makes him feel wanted, i think he has done this to shock the club so they tell mancini to start showing tevez a lot more respect.

Wouldn't it be easier to have said so, instead of having a go at Gary Cook?

i dont know but wasnt cook the one who didnt give hughes the respect he deserved with how he was sacked etc..?

He wouldnt as a "man" want to come out and say again that he dosent feel wanted as maybe he would feel like a big girl? I just think its about how mancini is with him and how he feels ballotelli gets special treatment when he has worked his ass off for the club since he has been here more than probably any other player ive seen at city in my time.

I'm sure most of the players are a bit unhappy with Balotelli's attitude but that's not what Tevez, or more accurately his controller, seem to be giving amongst their reasons for wanting to leave.

From what i read i ssn and the quotes its not about money its about assurances made by the club.

They say its not about money but what could it be, the only thing i think is that he has been unhappy with mancini for ages and that argument when he came was about why ballotelli wasnt taken off, as he felt the manager should of took him off as he hadnt worked as hard as tevez. Whether or not it was the right decision i think tevez blew his top and thought right ill fuck off.

It probably is just about more money and maybe wants more so he can move his ex and kids to spain sn they get a very nice lifestyle, but not sure why he didnt just ask privately or maybe he did and it was refused. Maybe the assurances he got was they would support him over family affairs and feels they havent. I dunno.

[CityFanFromRome]

Sum total it is about bringing players in to match the ambition and the failure so far to do that. Feasible?

Balotelli, Yaya Tourè, Milner, David Silva are not enough? And that's only for the midfield/attack.

[saulman]

If this really is about strike partners, which I very much doubt.....who the fuck is Tevez to dictate transfer policy and team selection? He's a fucking striker ffs.

[DoomMerchant]

If this really is about strike partners, which I very much doubt.....who the fuck is Tevez to dictate transfer policy and team selection? He's a fucking striker ffs.

don't be daft. this is about money ffs. come on. think about it. However, if we don't have the "team" Carlo thinks will make CL then maybe it has contractual implications for him. Check the Kia thread for what i mean...it's not hard stuff to figure out in my mind based on what Kia has said so far.

cheers

[Beefymcfc]

I smell something different, ok taking KJ at his word and Tevez for that matter. If this whole thing is about ambition and player aquisitions to back up that ambition.
Hughes went because they decided he couldn't bring the players needed?
They promise a manager who can. and make assurances on new players.
They fail to bring in the players.. namely strikers.

They have used KJ to try and help bring in players throughout, but the Club decided that they could do without him or do better or are not impressed.

Sum total it is about bringing players in to match the ambition and the failure so far to do that. Feasible?

This has been my perception of things for a while, confirmed by the little bust-up when Carlos was brought off. In the clubs defence, it wasn't as if they didn't try for some big name's and if they knew about this Dzeko message in August, I'm sure they would have passed that info to Carlos to keep him appeased. Then when you look at the quality of the other player's brought in, you'd have to say that you'd be more than impressed with our intent.

I think there are actually 2 issue's, the one you mention and the other being Mancio's early season tactic's, putting Carlos under massive pressure to win game's for us with very little help. That's why after the bust-up in the dressing room, we seen an all-round better attacking display from the team and a tactical point of view. And that's why Joor-a-cuntoid chose this time to manipulate Carlos into the request, knowing that it was now or never as we were beginning to look the real deal.

Mate Im not buying for a second that the play/ form we are seeing now is a result of Mancini totally changing his tactics because someone who can barely string a sentence together had a strop. This was Mancios football plan from the start.

I agree that these tactic's have been Mancio's all along, however, the more negative side to them (ie. emphasis on defence rather than attack) were then overtaken with the emphasis on getting people further forward and quicker.

[brite blu sky]

If this really is about strike partners, which I very much doubt.....who the fuck is Tevez to dictate transfer policy and team selection? He's a fucking striker ffs.

don't be daft. this is about money ffs. come on. think about it. However, if we don't have the "team" Carlo thinks will make CL then maybe it has contractual implications for him. Check the Kia thread for what i mean...it's not hard stuff to figure out in my mind based on what Kia has said so far.

cheers

i was one of the first posters on this board to start talking about the need not to rely on Tevez on the pitch, that was before all this. What i'm pointing out there is that i am not saying what i have above out of some love for Tevez. Im saying it because it is something that i read into the statemnts made by Tevez and KJ. Why im saying this is that none of us knows fucl all about it in reality and can only wait and see who says what and what happens. But meanwhile if you beleive it is all about money then you will come to the conclusion that Tevez and KJ are evil money grabbing bastards and wont see anything else in it and will probs be annoyed and upset by Tevez.
If you drop that angle for a minute, and read the statements by Tevez and co, they are clearly making the point theat there has been an ongoing argument between Tevez and the Club about aquisitions.

I am further suggesting that as we failed to land a out and out striker in summer, then this could be what is being refered to by Tevez and KJ.

You can all take what you want from that, but as i have said too many time already i am going with that as the reason behind the transfer request at his moment in time. I think the Club have promised certain types of players to Tevez and have failed to deliver so far.

[Rae4685]

Thought id share this:

Micah Richards (twitter)

seen so many players come and go but carlos would b a big loss if he left id b gutted same sort of feeling as when dunney and superman left.

He's also changed his profile pic to him and dunney maybe a feeling of constant change making him start to reminisce?

[PeterParker]

http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/blog/dir ... sow-296348

Epic !

[Beefymcfc]

Thought id share this:

Micah Richards (twitter)

seen so many players come and go but carlos would b a big loss if he left id b gutted same sort of feeling as when dunney and superman left.

He's also changed his profile pic to him and dunney maybe a feeling of constant change making him start to reminisce?

The fucker's stoned!

[citytilidie]

All becoming a little clearer now...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog ... ester-city

It has become one of those rows when, to put it bluntly, they probably all need their heads banging together. It is a story of male pride, of money (almost inevitably) and of what happens when two men who are used to getting their own way start to rub against each other like sandpaper.

What is becoming increasingly clear amid all the claims and counter-claims, the sniping and the backbiting, is that the only starting place when it comes to resolving the Carlos Tevez situation is going to be rediscovering some common ground between Manchester City's chief executive, Garry Cook, and the player's adviser, Kia Joorabchian.

For now, relations are not rock-bottom but subterranean and, while that remains the case, it is difficult to see how the two factions can sort out the kind of mess that makes you yearn for the days when football was about men in shorts and boots rather than pinstripe suits and polished shoes.

"Garry Cook thinks he's bigger than Carlos Tevez," Joorabchian said in one interview today that amounted to a 1,000-word exercise in bashing Cook around the head with a heavy club. It was the first open admission of how the two major players in this dispute – Tevez can feel almost like an afterthought at times – now communicate only by email and why senior figures at Eastlands have come to regard Joorabchian as persona non grata when once he had the best seat in the house.

The disintegration of their relationship is remarkable for those of us who remember the Football Writers' Association dinner in May 2008 when they sat beside one another on the Daily Mail table and, in between courses, Joorabchian led Cook around the room, introducing him to journalists. A few weeks earlier, Joorabchian had persuaded Thaksin Shinawatra, then in control of City, to headhunt Cook from his role at Nike. Cook and Joorabchian broke bread, clinked glasses and toasted the future.

Two and a half years on, we have reached a position whereby Joorabchian agreed to speak to the Sun (a newspaper City regard as unduly hostile) today and made no effort to conceal his disdain for the man he once called a friend. "He is trying to make this an issue between him and me when it should be nothing of the sort," he said. "He might feel he is a very important person, but he isn't. Me and him aren't important enough, it's about Carlos and his relationship with the club."

Joorabchian had spoken on the basis that he was given copy approval, meaning these were words he had ticked off. "Garry Cook has an inflated opinion of himself," he said. "I brought him in from Nike after he begged me to get him a job in football. I got him a job which paid him more than four times what he was earning at Nike and he didn't complain about me then but it's all gone to his head." As interviews go, it was about as subtle as a punch in the gut.

So how did all this malevolence start? For that, it is necessary to go back to the failed attempt to sign Kaká from Milan in January 2009. Joorabchian was appalled that when the deal collapsed his associate accused the Italians of "bottling it", an outburst he felt could muddy the waters for him in terms of working with the Serie A club again.

By that stage Joorabchian was firmly established as a key figure at Eastlands, prominent in bringing Mark Hughes and Robinho to the club, and a speed-dial number on Cook's phone when it came to top-level business. Yet Cook, over time, concluded Joorabchian's influence should diminish. His suspicion is that Joorabchian has an axe to grind and had his fingerprints all over the statement in which Tevez said his relationship "with certain executives and individuals" had "broken down and is now beyond repair".

Joorabchian says this is untrue and that he helped the club appease Tevez when the Argentinian first told them he wanted to leave in August. He denies it is a plot to extract more money and points to the fact that Tevez has already turned down a seven-figure sweetener. Both sides have kept email and documentary evidence as the row threatens to accelerate and there is no sign of a white flag being fluttered. Joorabchian also represents Hughes and City believe it is no coincidence that Tevez was quoted in the Daily Mail towards the end of last season saying it was wrong to sack him. That was a significant moment in the deteriorating relations.

What we have now is remarkably similar to Wayne Rooney's dispute with Manchester United in October: a star player threatening to leave while the club blame "external influences" and the supporters hurt. The question is what happens next? Both sides seem willing to roll up their sleeves for a scrap. The whole thing is a bloody mess and an indictment about the way modern football works at the top level. For all the simmering tensions Cook's personal assistant was seen escorting Joorabchian to his car after one recent match, holding an umbrella above his head to protect him from the rain.

[Mark (Blue Army)]

Thought id share this:

Micah Richards (twitter)

seen so many players come and go but carlos would b a big loss if he left id b gutted same sort of feeling as when dunney and superman left.

He's also changed his profile pic to him and dunney maybe a feeling of constant change making him start to reminisce?

The fucker's stoned!

PMSL!!! maybe he's trying to soften the blow for when Tevez next plays and he gets booed all game.

[Blue Since 76]

The burden is on Tevez and he is fed up of it, considering there were assurances made by the club, in the context of the overall AMBITION.

'It's horrible, horrible, I tell you. I am the only one who scores goals, so the fans all love me and think they couldn't manage without me, as I'm the glamour boy who scores all the goals. It's terrible. I want them to sign two more strikers, so I can just play in the Carling Cup like I did at the rags'.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but if he's upset that they haven't bought someone better than him, I suggest he sees a shrink. And then fucks off. Let's see who he lines up against with Boca, considering he's only leaving as he misses his kids/hates football/is depressed/has shagged every single bird in a 20 mile radius of Eastlands.

[svengali]

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/20 ... evez-round?

Roberto Mancini believes he can persuade Carlos Tevez to carry on firing City towards success this season and says: "I don't think he really wants to leave."

Skipper Tevez has had a transfer request rejected and, having been omitted from the dead rubber trip to Juventus, is due to meet the Blues manager at Carrington on Friday for talks.

Mancini said: "If Carlos is unhappy, and he's scored ten goals and played very well, then I hope that he's unhappy like that all season! But I don't think he is really unhappy. He can change his mind.

"Do I want him to stay? Absolutely. He has a contract, and he is our player. It's my belief that Carlos will stay with us, I think that he will continue to play for us.

"I will see him Friday morning. I will say 'good morning', and then we will talk. It's important that we speak, because we have a game with Everton on Monday and other very important games this month.

"I think that we can always change our minds. He's an important player here and it's an important season for us. We can change the history of this club.


Patrick Vieira, who faces one of his former clubs in tomorrow's Europa League tie, insisted: "The players don't talk about it. He's been the same Carlos the last few days as he was at the start of the season."

Mancini has drafted several youngsters into the squad to face Juventus, knowing that a defeat to the Serie A side he supported as a boy cannot prevent City from qualifying for February's first knockout stage.

But the Blues boss said: "It's important that we finish first in the group. We don't want to meet a team from the Champions League in the next round, so it is important to the players that we win."

[gillie]

Well imo i think this is all to do with Shrek changing his mind about wanting out at the rags.I think he was the name on the napkin and either Cooky told Tevez or Noel did.

[Beefymcfc]

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/2010/December/Boss-believes-he-can-talk-Tevez-round?

Roberto Mancini believes he can persuade Carlos Tevez to carry on firing City towards success this season and says: "I don't think he really wants to leave."

Skipper Tevez has had a transfer request rejected and, having been omitted from the dead rubber trip to Juventus, is due to meet the Blues manager at Carrington on Friday for talks.

Mancini said: "If Carlos is unhappy, and he's scored ten goals and played very well, then I hope that he's unhappy like that all season! But I don't think he is really unhappy. He can change his mind.

"Do I want him to stay? Absolutely. He has a contract, and he is our player. It's my belief that Carlos will stay with us, I think that he will continue to play for us.

"I will see him Friday morning. I will say 'good morning', and then we will talk. It's important that we speak, because we have a game with Everton on Monday and other very important games this month.

"I think that we can always change our minds. He's an important player here and it's an important season for us. We can change the history of this club.


Patrick Vieira, who faces one of his former clubs in tomorrow's Europa League tie, insisted: "The players don't talk about it. He's been the same Carlos the last few days as he was at the start of the season."

Mancini has drafted several youngsters into the squad to face Juventus, knowing that a defeat to the Serie A side he supported as a boy cannot prevent City from qualifying for February's first knockout stage.

But the Blues boss said: "It's important that we finish first in the group. We don't want to meet a team from the Champions League in the next round, so it is important to the players that we win."

Ha ha ha, I know t'eeeez an important statement, but that is all I was looking for ;-)

[Mase]

I don't really care anymore. As long as we've still got Robinho.

[BadKompany]

Posted on Bluevibe tonight........
make what you will.....

'Apparently Tevez knew nothing of the statement supposedly put out 'by him' on Sunday and is not best pleased with KJ.

Mansour has spoken to Florentino Perez and told him that there is no way they are having Tevez.
Khaldoon told Cook to make no comment whatsoever on anything said by KJ or press, he must give no response.

Tevez will stay til the end of this season and 1 more, then leave.

This is what I learned tonght. Believe it if you want, source is good, but his source is very close and apparently there are a lot of agenda's involved'

[Fesan]

Thanks for the info :-)

But why would he leave after 1 and 1/2 season more? By that time we should be in CL and hopefully close to the premiership title if not having won it?:-)

[gillie]

We need to score as Poznan could nick top spot if we draw 0-0 and they win 3-0.