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Re: Mourinho

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:11 pm
by Ted Hughes
gillie wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:I don't like stuff like that incident with Mancini & Gollum, it lacks class (although Mancini showed real class in apologising). If we get Mourinho we get that every fucking week & City become secondary to him.

No arguing that Mourinho gets results but I'd much rather Mancini started playing more attacking football & stayed in the job. Unfortunately I recon Hughes was sacked to clear the way for Mourinho, if he'll agree to come.

Ted i am beginning to wonder if Mancini can actually play the attack minded game unless he is forced to by a given situation.I think he is ultra defensive which is strange as he was one helluva forward when he played.


Tbh, I don't buy into the idea that Mancini is working to some clever master plan of any kind, in fact, as far as City are concerned, I don't think he has even the slightest clue what his best team or formation is. I think he's at home with certain formations so he falls back on them in big games but he doesn't know all the strengths & weaknesses of the City players or what jobs they can do or the reality of playing against various PL opposition, so he puts players in, hoping they'll do the same job as the guy at Inter would have done & finds they don't so has to change it. It takes a lot of time & mistakes to really learn about the players & find out who can do what job with whom & we sacked the last bloke while he was still in the middle of doing it.

Mancini's team at Fulham was effectively chucking tactics out of the window & going for it. It worked but I imagine he feels he's not quite in control tactically when we play like that. Over time perhaps he'll get used to the PL & his players, sign one or two & develop systems that suit it (if he's allowed to).

Re: Mourinho

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:01 pm
by btajim
Mr Miyagi wrote:This is all academic... Mourinho has been sucking up to ManU for years. Buying Taggart bottles of wine etc. He has his eye firmly on succeeding Taggart. The sunday papers are talking about this again today.


Imagine the bragging rights if we begin snatching their chosen ones. i.e. Tevez and then Mourinho. If only for that!

Re: Mourinho

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:43 pm
by Blue Toy
"I am very happy here (at Inter) but the situation is that I don't like Italian football and the Italians don't like me".


Clip on Sky just now from an interview he's done today.

Re: Mourinho

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:47 pm
by Beefymcfc
Blue Toy wrote:"I am very happy here (at Inter) but the situation is that I don't like Italian football and the Italians don't like me".


Clip on Sky just now from an interview he's done today.

Just seen it mate, and that statement doesn't reflect exactly what he said, it was the manner in how he said it. Strange how he's been touting himself around yet no-one's come in for him. Maybe he's getting desperate as he is not in the spotlight over there?

Apparently there's more to come.

Re: Mourinho

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:49 pm
by Blue Toy
Beefymcfc wrote:
Blue Toy wrote:"I am very happy here (at Inter) but the situation is that I don't like Italian football and the Italians don't like me".


Clip on Sky just now from an interview he's done today.

Just seen it mate, and that statement doesn't reflect exactly what he said, it was the manner in how he said it. Strange how he's been touting himself around yet no-one's come in for him. Maybe he's getting desperate as he is not in the spotlight over there?

Apparently there's more to come.


Did you see he walked off after he'd said it, without the interview being closed? There was serious frustration/annoyance/pissed offness there.

Re: Mourinho

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:52 pm
by Beefymcfc
Blue Toy wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
Blue Toy wrote:"I am very happy here (at Inter) but the situation is that I don't like Italian football and the Italians don't like me".


Clip on Sky just now from an interview he's done today.

Just seen it mate, and that statement doesn't reflect exactly what he said, it was the manner in how he said it. Strange how he's been touting himself around yet no-one's come in for him. Maybe he's getting desperate as he is not in the spotlight over there?

Apparently there's more to come.


Did you see he walked off after he'd said it, without the interview being closed? There was serious frustration/annoyance/pissed offness there.

I know, like he had more to say, especially in front of the British cameras. Can't wait for the rest, he is like Eastenders, Corrie, Emmerdale and Shameless roled into one.

Re: Mourinho

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:57 pm
by Dameerto
the_georgian_genius wrote:No doubting he is a good manager, he isn't this god you are making him out to be.


He gets the job done - there's not many managers that can prepare a team for a specific game like he can. It's a God given talent. Just look at the recent Chelsea game, I don't mean the result, I mean the alleged preparation he is supposed to have done before hand, playing the sentimental melancholic 'good old times' card with key players in the week leading up to the game, and on the day itsself. The guy doesn't miss a trick, he had half their team practically hypnotised.

Re: Mourinho

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:05 pm
by Beefymcfc
Dameerto wrote:
the_georgian_genius wrote:No doubting he is a good manager, he isn't this god you are making him out to be.


He gets the job done - there's not many managers that can prepare a team for a specific game like he can. It's a God given talent. Just look at the recent Chelsea game, I don't mean the result, I mean the alleged preparation he is supposed to have done before hand, playing the sentimental melancholic 'good old times' card with key players in the week leading up to the game, and on the day itsself. The guy doesn't miss a trick, he had half their team practically hypnotised.

Sorry to pick out one comment, but I don't think it's God given. Even though I seriously dislike his ways you've got to give him massive credit for finishing his apprenticeship and then pushing on to achieve good/great things. The bloke has worked his bollox off, grasped the opportunities that came his way and forced his way through the back door to make it to where he is. Fare play to the bloke, he deserves to be there by achievement.

NB. Personally, I think he plays the part really well.

Re: Mourinho

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:08 pm
by Dameerto
He's streetwise, like the old fart who can't be named. I think it's genetic. Nature rather than nurture. He manufactures his own luck.

Re: Mourinho

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:27 pm
by Beefymcfc
Dameerto wrote:He's streetwise, like the old fart who can't be named. I think it's genetic. Nature rather than nurture. He manufactures his own luck.

Don't we all do that mate, one way or the other?

Re: Mourinho

PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:15 am
by CityFanFromRome
Dameerto wrote:He gets the job done - there's not many managers that can prepare a team for a specific game like he can. It's a God given talent. Just look at the recent Chelsea game, I don't mean the result, I mean the alleged preparation he is supposed to have done before hand, playing the sentimental melancholic 'good old times' card with key players in the week leading up to the game, and on the day itsself. The guy doesn't miss a trick, he had half their team practically hypnotised.

Too bad for him he couldn't do the same on the weekend then ;) Really, i know he's a very good motivator of his own players, and he can shield them from criticism with his own antics when the results are not good, or the performances aren't, but he's been suspect in tactics at times, and his usual way to remedy to that, "let's put all the attackers I have on the pitch together", doesn't always work in his favor (although some times this season it has).

Re: Mourinho

PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:56 am
by Dazzacity
Im not sure about Jose. We all say we want stability,yet Jose is the sort of guy that goes to a club, wins a cup or two then moves on elsewhere-or so it seems..

Id rather give Mancini a proper season, unless we really fook things up from now till the end of the season.

Re: Mourinho

PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:03 am
by Niall Quinns Discopants
The more I think about this, the less it makes any sense. Granted Mourinho is among the best three managers in the world but results haven't been that bad under Mancini, so in that sense I don't see much sense at all replacing him with Mourinho as Mancini is guaranteed to stay longer (given chance and if he is succesfull) than Mourinho. And I'm sure we all want stability in that department.

Regarding quality of football this makes even less sense. While Mancini's football hasn't been exactly attackfest (nor has it been even nearly as bad as some people make it out to be), Mourinho's brand of football is miles more boring. As a results first and foremost man myself I could deal with it provided he could work his magic on our results but since the biggest reason for "Mancini's not the man" voters is the quality of football, I can't see this making any sense for them either.

Re: Mourinho

PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:43 pm
by btajim
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:The more I think about this, the less it makes any sense. Granted Mourinho is among the best three managers in the world but results haven't been that bad under Mancini, so in that sense I don't see much sense at all replacing him with Mourinho as Mancini is guaranteed to stay longer (given chance and if he is succesfull) than Mourinho. And I'm sure we all want stability in that department.

Regarding quality of football this makes even less sense. While Mancini's football hasn't been exactly attackfest (nor has it been even nearly as bad as some people make it out to be), Mourinho's brand of football is miles more boring. As a results first and foremost man myself I could deal with it provided he could work his magic on our results but since the biggest reason for "Mancini's not the man" voters is the quality of football, I can't see this making any sense for them either.


Who plays the most attractive Football that also wins Trophies regularly? I'm not asking you a question that I know the answer to. I'd just like to know who you think are the model we should aspire to.

Chelsea were brilliant under Mourinho but I never found their Football truly entertaining. Just efficient. Arsenal's 49 Match unbeaten are the best Premiership side I've ever seen.

Re: Mourinho

PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:45 pm
by Niall Quinns Discopants
btajim wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:The more I think about this, the less it makes any sense. Granted Mourinho is among the best three managers in the world but results haven't been that bad under Mancini, so in that sense I don't see much sense at all replacing him with Mourinho as Mancini is guaranteed to stay longer (given chance and if he is succesfull) than Mourinho. And I'm sure we all want stability in that department.

Regarding quality of football this makes even less sense. While Mancini's football hasn't been exactly attackfest (nor has it been even nearly as bad as some people make it out to be), Mourinho's brand of football is miles more boring. As a results first and foremost man myself I could deal with it provided he could work his magic on our results but since the biggest reason for "Mancini's not the man" voters is the quality of football, I can't see this making any sense for them either.


Who plays the most attractive Football that also wins Trophies regularly? I'm not asking you a question that I know the answer to. I'd just like to know who you think are the model we should aspire to.

Chelsea were brilliant under Mourinho but I never found their Football truly entertaining. Just efficient. Arsenal's 49 Match unbeaten are the best Premiership side I've ever seen.


Wenger minus his stubborness not to spend on finished article would be something I'd hope our managers would aim for. Success and quality of football. And I agree that Arsenal's "Invincibles" were the most enjoyable English team to watch ever.

Re: Mourinho

PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:52 pm
by btajim
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Wenger minus his stubborness not to spend on finished article would be something I'd hope our managers would aim for. Success and quality of football. And I agree that Arsenal's "Invincibles" were the most enjoyable English team to watch ever.


Arsene Wenger appears to control absolutely everything Football at Arsenal. From the Kids Teams through to the First Team. He's got his touch everywhere. Arsenal should be applauded for sticking with him for so long and letting him do his thing. He'll be an incredible act to follow.

I want that wanker nowhere near City, though.

Re: Mourinho

PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:11 pm
by Niall Quinns Discopants
http://www.teamtalk.com/poll/results/117

25% of people seem to think he'll be in charge of us next season. Personally I think he is guaranteed to take over in Real Madrid but we'll see.

One place I'm fairly sure he will NOT be is in Scouseland, despite roughly three million Scousers voting so.

Re: Mourinho

PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:20 pm
by btajim
Real Madrid appear more likely because they have the pulling power that we don't. It'll take a long time to be on the same level as them historically - but if we can offer the money that no other Premiership Club can then i'm confident he'd come here.

Jose loves English Football and City would be the ultimate challenge to him.

Re: Mourinho

PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:44 pm
by johnny crossan
Goaters 103 wrote:Some [highlight]strange[/highlight] opinions on here. Would have Mourinho at any time and at any price.

Mancio et al MAY get us there, Mourinho guarntees success and winning trophies (anyone remember them?), which is the object of the exercise. If we have an opportunity to get Mourinho Why are we wasting time when the best man for the job can be had?


I'm not medically qualified but I think Jose looked a little strange in his interview with Sky.

Re: Mourinho

PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:49 am
by Goaters 103
http://timesonline.typepad.com/thegame/ ... t-fit.html

Agree with this on the perfect fit angle, right manager at the right time for City. We have a limitless budget, our supporters would desperately love winning a trophy and some tangible success, our owners crave a higher profile and box-office, and some of our players need a kick up the arse or the exit door - Mr Mourinho would address all of those in one swoop.

It also seems the press are now open house on Garry Cook, so maybve his role is to stick around at the club so the flak is concentrated on him rather than others!