Opinions On Mancini From A Few Months Ago

[saulman]

Well I for one hope this thread makes people think twice before forming a lynch mob next time we get a defeat and a couple of draws.

Talk of 'I'd rather have Alardyce' and 'Yaya Toure is shite', etc, etc, all make the board a more enjoyable place for a heated debate and it's great that people voice their opinions. But we don't want to fuel a fire that shouldn't be lit in the first place. Talk of Mancini Out when we're sitting in the top 4 is just plain daft, whether it's a month ago or in a months time.

I think everyone, haters and lickers alike, should just exercise a little bit more patience and see how things pan out.

This" lynch mob" thing has gone way overboard.

If we ever play the dross continually like we were, I'll complain again.

Simple.

These cunts boasting that they were right and everyone else hasn't a fucking clue is truely sad. Everyone who raised concerns with how we were playing had every right to.

Football changes again and again.

Ask Liverpool fans.

And particularly the guy who said it would all go pear shaped, because he obviously knows more about football than any of us gobshites.

Mate, 'lynch mod' was a tongue-in-cheek term. Like the way I used 'lickers' and 'haters', both terms left over from the Les debates.
[highlight]I agree that gloating gets you nowhere and just pisses those off that got it wrong, but that 'Mancini Out' thread was so premature it was laughable. It should never have been started and most certainly never have been taken seriously. I was convinced it was simply a WUM until I read the content of it.[/highlight]

Yeah everyone was pissed off at watching 0-0 draws. Yeah we couldn't understand what he was trying to achieve up front. I think everyone was pretty much thinking the same and most were posting the same.

The big difference between both sides in that thread is that some haven't learned the lessons of the past and others have. [highlight]All I'm saying is that the next time we get a poor run of results, and we most certainly will, we should all just show a little patience[/highlight].

1) ........ gloating does indeed piss me off.

2) ......... I was, initially, under the impression that Lee was just gently mocking us in this thread - not gloating.

3).......... I don't think my thread was laughable or amounted to a wind up - that's very much a matter of your opinion. It was a genuinely felt post and one designed to say publicly what a lot of people were feeling at the time - as witnessed by many of the replies to it.

4) It had, and still has, nothing at all to do with results. It was, and is, about intent, performance / execution.

5) If Roberto's team was still today giving performances with the lack of style witnessed pre Fulham I would be getting well and truly stuck into him even if we had won every game.[highlight]You don't buy a Rolls Royce and drive it like a fucking Reliant Robin[/highlight].

But it would be sensible not to drive it like a dick until you've got the hang of it, no?

[Kladze]

But it would be sensible not to drive it like a dick until you've got the hang of it, no?

Maybe.

No need to put it into reverse though ............

[saulman]

But it would be sensible not to drive it like a dick until you've got the hang of it, no?

Maybe.

No need to put it into reverse though ............

Nah mate. It was in neutral. He was just reading the manual properly before slipping it into gear. :-)

[Kladze]

But it would be sensible not to drive it like a dick until you've got the hang of it, no?

Maybe.

No need to put it into reverse though ............

Nah mate. It was in neutral. He was just reading the manual properly before slipping it into gear. :-)

You're all torque :-p

[Ted Hughes]

Well I for one hope this thread makes people think twice before forming a lynch mob next time we get a defeat and a couple of draws.

Talk of 'I'd rather have Alardyce' and 'Yaya Toure is shite', etc, etc, all make the board a more enjoyable place for a heated debate and it's great that people voice their opinions. But we don't want to fuel a fire that shouldn't be lit in the first place. Talk of Mancini Out when we're sitting in the top 4 is just plain daft, whether it's a month ago or in a months time.

I think everyone, haters and lickers alike, should just exercise a little bit more patience and see how things pan out.

This" lynch mob" thing has gone way overboard.

If we ever play the dross continually like we were, I'll complain again.

Simple.

These cunts boasting that they were right and everyone else hasn't a fucking clue is truely sad. Everyone who raised concerns with how we were playing had every right to.

Football changes again and again.

Ask Liverpool fans.

And particularly the guy who said it would all go pear shaped, because he obviously knows more about football than any of us gobshites.

Mate, 'lynch mod' was a tongue-in-cheek term. Like the way I used 'lickers' and 'haters', both terms left over from the Les debates.
I agree that gloating gets you nowhere and just pisses those off that got it wrong, but that 'Mancini Out' thread was so premature it was laughable. It should never have been started and most certainly never have been taken seriously. I was convinced it was simply a WUM until I read the content of it.

Yeah everyone was pissed off at watching 0-0 draws. Yeah we couldn't understand what he was trying to achieve up front. I think everyone was pretty much thinking the same and most were posting the same.

The big difference between both sides in that thread is that some haven't learned the lessons of the past and others have. All I'm saying is that the next time we get a poor run of results, and we most certainly will, we should all just show a little patience.

If Bob sticks Boateng & Boyata together in the defence v Arsenal & we get beat, I will fucking slaughter him exactly as I did last time because he'll be guilty of weakening the team by gambling on a hunch & being close to incompetent on the day. If you read my posts after the Everton game however, you'll be hard pressed to find one single word of criticism for Mancini because I don't see that he did much wrong, it was the player's fault. If imo he fucks up, I'll be saying so.

But not calling for him to be sacked though, eh? We all make mistakes.

I've actually said I'd keep Mancini even if he missed top 4 so I can't plead guilty to that one. Being, unimpressed & bored shitless by aspects of a manager's reign & wanting him sacked are two entirely different things.

[Swales4ever]

Ted! I am starting to know the way it runs here. It is more about making our point against the odd and the more the friendship are close, the most borderline the hit/ banter (pick Your guess) go. I still remember and enjoy when I firstly noticed how smart John68 can be, on that thread where he was pretending to be the Huguest Hugues to keep his point in the rift with Rag Hater..... lol
Fine. Fair. Funny. That's what a forum is also for, besides and below of spreading culture.
Though, at least the way I am, I do consider that when someone is GIFTED, like You are, in terms of understanding and ability to lead, must not come overboard just for the sake of having some fun at a Mate. I mean, You got a name!

I am sure You don't think and beleive the embarrassing opinions You are pissing out this thread, neither when You'll come and write: "yes I do".
Overall - now that the issue has done and dusted by far - I honestly feel righteously entitled to say I am getting annoyed about this continous attempt to renew this fucking, useless, childish comparison between two pieces of the same Proud History.
I, along with several others have my opinion on the left - You, along with several others have your opinion on the right. Fair enough.
I don't wanna even talk about evidence, maths, backgrounds, future acheivements and appointments. This is definitely a matter of feelings and sentiments rather than football facts and figures.
I simply do consider that we all should stop acting like childish cunts, do pack our fucking egos for once, stop slagging two respectable pros which served/serves the Club at their respective best...... and fucking MOVE ON.
I am not Mother Therese and don't wanna become, let's do piss at each others toward the future and please DO PUT THIS FUCKING "HUGUES HAS BEEN STOLEN HIS CHANCE" TO BED.
At least do try to do so those excellent like You were born.
I really do think I am not the only one who dislike to be driven in this useless debate and would like to pay respect to all the Officials at the Club: past, present, future.

Rant over.

Edit: in order to be more balanced I must add: Saul!

[Mase]

Must be really embarrassing for whoever said they'd rather have Sam Allardyce. I'd feel really really stupid right now if I were them.

[saulman]

Edit: in order to be more balanced I must add: Saul!

Did I just get 'told off'? I'm not sure.


Just to clarify though, all I'm saying is that I hope everyone has learned a little patience. Mancini has proved everyone wrong several times and I'm sure he'll continue to do so. Slag off his tactics. Slag off his hair. But leave the lynching till the end of the season at least, when we can actually see what it is he's achieved.

The end.

[Ted Hughes]

Ted! I am starting to know the way it runs here. It is more about making our point against the odd and the more the friendship are close, the most borderline the hit/ banter (pick Your guess) go. I still remember and enjoy when I firstly noticed how smart John68 can be, on that thread where he was pretending to be the Huguest Hugues to keep his point in the rift with Rag Hater..... lol
Fine. Fair. Funny. That's what a forum is also for, besides and below of spreading culture.
Though, at least the way I am, I do consider that when someone is GIFTED, like You are, in terms of understanding and ability to lead, must not come overboard just for the sake of having some fun at a Mate. I mean, You got a name!

I am sure You don't think and beleive the embarrassing opinions You are pissing out this thread, neither when You'll come and write: "yes I do".
Overall - now that the issue has done and dusted by far - I honestly feel righteously entitled to say I am getting annoyed about this continous attempt to renew this fucking, useless, childish comparison between two pieces of the same Proud History.
I, along with several others have my opinion on the left - You, along with several others have your opinion on the right. Fair enough.
I don't wanna even talk about evidence, maths, backgrounds, future acheivements and appointments. This is definitely a matter of feelings and sentiments rather than football facts and figures.
I simply do consider that we all should stop acting like childish cunts, do pack our fucking egos for once, stop slagging two respectable pros which served/serves the Club at their respective best...... and fucking MOVE ON.
I am not Mother Therese and don't wanna become, let's do piss at each others toward the future and please DO PUT THIS FUCKING "HUGUES HAS BEEN STOLEN HIS CHANCE" TO BED.
At least do try to do so those excellent like You were born.
I really do think I am not the only one who dislike to be driven in this useless debate and would like to pay respect to all the Officials at the Club: past, present, future.

Rant over.

Edit: in order to be more balanced I must add: Saul!

Mancio, the thread is about opinions on Mancini, not Hughes.

I think Mancini may be the best manager we've had since Joe Mercer & may end up being better than him. BUT I also think some of the teams he put out earlier in his City career were close to useless & some of his decisions were absoluteky fucking terrible. I never, ever wanted him sacked however, because I believed he was building a strong team, whiuch is now proving to be the case. On the pitch though, until the last few months, I've really not enjoyed watching his team very often & in fact it used to depress me. I can't now pretend that's not true when I found most of his past games about as enjoyable as a visit to the dentist, I would be lying if I said anything different.

Now I'm absolutely delighted with the way we are playing & I'm very excited about where we go next. I think he's doing a great job.

[saulman]

Now I'm absolutely delighted with the way we are playing & I'm very excited about where we go next. I think he's doing a great job.

Told you so.


;-)

[Ted Hughes]

Now I'm absolutely delighted with the way we are playing & I'm very excited about where we go next. I think he's doing a great job.

Told you so.


;-)

There's a thread or two, (started by the Georgian Felcher ) for that sort of thing. ;-)

[BlueMoonAwoken]

Mancio, the thread is about opinions on Mancini, not Hughes.

If that is the case why was i dragged into it? :P

[Kladze]

Must be really embarrassing for whoever said they'd rather have Sam Allardyce. I'd feel really really stupid right now if I were them.

Twas I .

And I'm not in the least embarrassed because that's how bad it seemed at the time - inasmuch as 'at least Allardyce would have a plan'.
Of course, I didn't truly mean it - I would never want that fat tool at City, but it was a useful example to make my point.

As it goes, I'd feel really really stupid if I were you ........ at any time :-)

[Mase]

Must be really embarrassing for whoever said they'd rather have Sam Allardyce. I'd feel really really stupid right now if I were them.

Twas I .

And I'm not in the least embarrassed because that's how bad it seemed at the time - inasmuch as 'at least Allardyce would have a plan'.
Of course, I didn't truly mean it - I would never want that fat tool at City, but it was a useful example to make my point.

As it goes, I'd feel really really stupid if I were you ........ at any time :-)

Brilliant come back. 2/10.

[Blue in North London]

I have always been a supporter ('licker' to some) of any manager that is in charge of the Blues. I have to admit that my support of Mancio was beginning to waiver a bit a couple of months into the season, mainly because I found most of the games to be dull. Then all of a sudden we played Fulham (away), and produced a performance that can be best described as fluid but structured and dynamnic but solid. That game proved to be a watershed. Since then our performances have, in general, been very good. I accept there have been one or two hiccups since (even barca lose!) but it is obvious we now have a team in which the players all know what they are supposed to be doing. It is clear Mancini is getting his message across in training because when we rest players teh replacements come into the team without disrupting the system and we still manage to prodce good performances (e.g. Villa at home).

I also believe that Mancini is far more tactically savvy than most fans credit him with. I cannot remember a game this season when we have been outdone tactically. Forget about Everton - that was siomply a bad day at the office in which we were wasteful and the defenders lost concentration.


I genuinely see us being a team who will consistently challenge for trophies if Mancini stays at the club.

[Kladze]

Must be really embarrassing for whoever said they'd rather have Sam Allardyce. I'd feel really really stupid right now if I were them.

Twas I .

And I'm not in the least embarrassed because that's how bad it seemed at the time - inasmuch as 'at least Allardyce would have a plan'.
Of course, I didn't truly mean it - I would never want that fat tool at City, but it was a useful example to make my point.

As it goes, I'd feel really really stupid if I were you ........ at any time :-)

Brilliant come back. 2/10.

Yes it was a poor effort, I'll give you that sunshine ;-)

[Mase]

Must be really embarrassing for whoever said they'd rather have Sam Allardyce. I'd feel really really stupid right now if I were them.

Twas I .

And I'm not in the least embarrassed because that's how bad it seemed at the time - inasmuch as 'at least Allardyce would have a plan'.
Of course, I didn't truly mean it - I would never want that fat tool at City, but it was a useful example to make my point.

As it goes, I'd feel really really stupid if I were you ........ at any time :-)

Brilliant come back. 2/10.

Yes it was a poor effort, I'll give you that sunshine ;-)

Cheers sweetheart ;)

[andyblue]

Saulman: Even if we do beat them at OT, it won't change my feelings about the game. We were scared of them and i was ashamed to see us play so negatively at home. If we are aspiring to win the title we ned to take the game to teams, especially at home and not play so negatively.

Honestly, if we had lost but played with real passion and fight and put everything into winnign the game, I would have been happier than seeing us play anti football and scrape a 0-0 draw. It was the worst derby game I've seen in years and that was down to us.

We could of and should of beat them and there are zero excuses for playign so negatively.


I'm very happy with Mancini recently though but I will always be annoyed with the way he approached that game.

I see where you are coming from but do you have a short memory? On Saturday 17th April 2010 I had one of the most horrendous and heartbreaking moments of being blue when a certain ginger twat popped up in the last minute of the game and scored the winner. I then had to sit and listen to 3000 mongs singing this is "how it feels to be City" and then watch Gary Neville getting off with said ginger twat. Im sure this day was also still fresh in Bobby’s mind before the game in November.

I much preferred the tinge of disappoint in November when we drew 0-0 with the horrible bastards than the heartbreak of April. At the time in November we were still very much work in progress and i would have taken a draw prior to KO. Yeah it wasn’t great but it doesn’t bother me now like it seems to with other fans. We are now seeing a City team with the shackles slowing coming off and I expect a very different approach come OT time in February.

I think that this is what I have been trying (not very eloquently) to say. The particular derby match I was thinking of was when we lost 5-0 at OT back in the dark ages. A negative performance in a 0-0 draw is OK by me. If Mancini is still trying to do that next year, everyone should feel free to start complaining about it; I'll still not pay the slightest attention, but I might be able to begin to understand what you feel is so terrible about it.

[failsworthblue]

Worst Post of the Year!

[Swales4ever]

Ted! I am starting to know the way it runs here. It is more about making our point against the odd and the more the friendship are close, the most borderline the hit/ banter (pick Your guess) go. I still remember and enjoy when I firstly noticed how smart John68 can be, on that thread where he was pretending to be the Huguest Hugues to keep his point in the rift with Rag Hater..... lol
Fine. Fair. Funny. That's what a forum is also for, besides and below of spreading culture.
Though, at least the way I am, I do consider that when someone is GIFTED, like You are, in terms of understanding and ability to lead, must not come overboard just for the sake of having some fun at a Mate. I mean, You got a name!

I am sure You don't think and beleive the embarrassing opinions You are pissing out this thread, neither when You'll come and write: "yes I do".
Overall - now that the issue has done and dusted by far - I honestly feel righteously entitled to say I am getting annoyed about this continous attempt to renew this fucking, useless, childish comparison between two pieces of the same Proud History.
I, along with several others have my opinion on the left - You, along with several others have your opinion on the right. Fair enough.
I don't wanna even talk about evidence, maths, backgrounds, future acheivements and appointments. This is definitely a matter of feelings and sentiments rather than football facts and figures.
I simply do consider that we all should stop acting like childish cunts, do pack our fucking egos for once, stop slagging two respectable pros which served/serves the Club at their respective best...... and fucking MOVE ON.
I am not Mother Therese and don't wanna become, let's do piss at each others toward the future and please DO PUT THIS FUCKING "HUGUES HAS BEEN STOLEN HIS CHANCE" TO BED.
At least do try to do so those excellent like You were born.
I really do think I am not the only one who dislike to be driven in this useless debate and would like to pay respect to all the Officials at the Club: past, present, future.

Rant over.

Edit: in order to be more balanced I must add: Saul!

Mancio, the thread is about opinions on Mancini, not Hughes.

I think Mancini may be the best manager we've had since Joe Mercer & may end up being better than him. BUT I also think some of the teams he put out earlier in his City career were close to useless & some of his decisions were absoluteky fucking terrible. I never, ever wanted him sacked however, because I believed he was building a strong team, whiuch is now proving to be the case. On the pitch though, until the last few months, I've really not enjoyed watching his team very often & in fact it used to depress me. I can't now pretend that's not true when I found most of his past games about as enjoyable as a visit to the dentist, I would be lying if I said anything different.

Now I'm absolutely delighted with the way we are playing & I'm very excited about where we go next. I think he's doing a great job.

Once underlined that the matching of Mancini with Mercer / Allison shall become possible not before he has won EPL and at a CL final, considering the different level of backing they lived, I just wanna thank you because through that words You mean You catched my point.
We like a slighly diffent idea of football, nonetheless I always read Your match feedbacks greedily, because last time I did enjoyed the same depth in analizing and reporting the football action I was reading Gianni Brera, the best italian football writer ever. indeed you hold the same ease to twist and turn the football reality.
one thing is the balanced opinion You are expressing above and a completely different other is to state the a senior manager is a clueless coward because he didn't offered the counter-attack to the ol' clever fox with the red nose. Now Bob perceive that the dressing room understand and follow the path to glory he is gonna drawing and naturally he has loosened the rein. Formerly he was probably reading less confidence and more confusion into the dressing because of all the rambling around City (skillfully orchestrated by the gutter press) thus the more cautious approach. It may be boring but it's the only way to build a war machine, not assaulting restlessly with no brain nor awareness.
By the way I have no shadow of doubt that deep in brain you do rate properly the odd everton defeat: it happened with a rare combination of very adverse factors, from the very frozen pitch (serpentines or not it was minus 10+) that undoubtedly has prejudiced the more skilled side aiming to play a passing game, to the very rare lack of focus that happened to Vinnie, till the unprofessional performance of the medical staff which kept zabba off for 8 minute! After that bizarre 20 first minutes we saw the City we are gonna used to and, would Balotelli have not slipped when controlling the ball into the box or would his later volley have been some inchees inner, we all have went wet as happened at St. James.