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Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:53 pm

Patrick wrote:And Mancini hit back by claiming that his words only inspired the current City team to play well.

Last season, Hughes, then manager of Fulham, was critical of Mancini the day before City beat the west London club 4-1.

Mancini said: 'I don't know Mark Hughes and he doesn't know me, but I'm happy when he talks to the newspapers because before every game when he talks we win 6-1, 4-1. If he talks about me before every game I'd be happy.'



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Re: Leslie spouts off

Postby guv111 » Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:15 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:Martin Samuel. Quality journalist, who is a class above most of the sad cunts pretending to be in the same profession.


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Re: Leslie spouts off

Postby guv111 » Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:27 pm

Blueonblue wrote:It amazes me that there are still people who think he was hard done by in the way he was shown the door, even worse that he did some kind of good while poluting the managers office, only now showing himself to be the utter c*nt he always was because he`s bitter at the way he claims he was treated.

From the day he crawled into the club he was an arrogant cluless prick, while some claim that he DID sign some good players, the truth is it was more by luck than judgement, with the flops being the norm rather than the exception, even what could be classed as good players came with problems and certainly never fitted together to even look like the start of a good team.

Compare it with how Roberto went about building a team, with the exception of Boatang all his signings fitted into the system that looked better every time he added to the sqaud, he cleared out most of numpties flops whil improving those he could use.

The other side of the coin is the damage done to the club by the dogs bastard, besides landing us with crap players on silly contracts and little resale value, we lost players like Elano and Dunnie, Danny Sturidge was treated like a c*nt over a contract ( All he was after was exactly the same as other accademy graduates, numpty offered him half ) an then subject to fairy stories leaked to the media by the lying numpty bastard and his "Tafia", A lie that is still accepted by some on this board I am disapointed to see.

On the fairy stories in the media routine Danny was not the only victim, Dunnie, Jo ,Elano, M J, and Micah Richards all came in the frame after a run in with numpty, we lost the club doctor and the players mister fixit, both had been at the club over 15 or more years, and the accademy staff were at war with the cunt from the off, leading to J.C. and his senior staff being moved sideways within the club structure to avoid a mass walk out.

So no, he wasn`t treaded badly by the club, his claims of not knowing he was being flirted while after the final game was proved to be yet another lie when it emerged he had sought adice on the matter saturday morning.

Had it been my shout, I would have called him into the middle of the pitch at half time and fired his usless arse in public, he was, is, and always will be an utter classless c*nt.


I have to admit that, until quite recently (till things started really gelling for Mancini around March), I was missing the attacking nature of Hughes' team. But, really, since the spring Roberto has taken us to a completely different level in every department, and the more Hughes pipes up through his media mates the more I hate the bastard. If Hughes had shut up and just got on with being a failed manager I'm sure there would be some affection for him amongst City fans, but he has now exposed himself as a vindictive, untalented lifelong Rag. A shit manager with a nice suit.
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Re: Leslie spouts off

Postby Slim » Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:23 pm

guv111 wrote: A shit manager with a nice suit.


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Re: Leslie spouts off

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:52 pm

Blueonblue wrote:It amazes me that there are still people who think he was hard done by in the way he was shown the door, even worse that he did some kind of good while poluting the managers office, only now showing himself to be the utter c*nt he always was because he`s bitter at the way he claims he was treated.

From the day he crawled into the club he was an arrogant cluless prick, while some claim that he DID sign some good players, the truth is it was more by luck than judgement, with the flops being the norm rather than the exception, even what could be classed as good players came with problems and certainly never fitted together to even look like the start of a good team.

Compare it with how Roberto went about building a team, with the exception of Boatang all his signings fitted into the system that looked better every time he added to the sqaud, he cleared out most of numpties flops whil improving those he could use.

The other side of the coin is the damage done to the club by the dogs bastard, besides landing us with crap players on silly contracts and little resale value, we lost players like Elano and Dunnie, Danny Sturidge was treated like a c*nt over a contract ( All he was after was exactly the same as other accademy graduates, numpty offered him half ) an then subject to fairy stories leaked to the media by the lying numpty bastard and his "Tafia", A lie that is still accepted by some on this board I am disapointed to see.

On the fairy stories in the media routine Danny was not the only victim, Dunnie, Jo ,Elano, M J, and Micah Richards all came in the frame after a run in with numpty, we lost the club doctor and the players mister fixit, both had been at the club over 15 or more years, and the accademy staff were at war with the cunt from the off, leading to J.C. and his senior staff being moved sideways within the club structure to avoid a mass walk out.

So no, he wasn`t treaded badly by the club, his claims of not knowing he was being flirted while after the final game was proved to be yet another lie when it emerged he had sought adice on the matter saturday morning.

Had it been my shout, I would have called him into the middle of the pitch at half time and fired his usless arse in public, he was, is, and always will be an utter classless c*nt.


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Re: Leslie spouts off

Postby Patrick » Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:36 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Patrick wrote:And Mancini hit back by claiming that his words only inspired the current City team to play well.

Last season, Hughes, then manager of Fulham, was critical of Mancini the day before City beat the west London club 4-1.

Mancini said: 'I don't know Mark Hughes and he doesn't know me, but I'm happy when he talks to the newspapers because before every game when he talks we win 6-1, 4-1. If he talks about me before every game I'd be happy.'



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Re: Leslie spouts off

Postby Ted Hughes » Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:40 pm

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carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Patrick wrote:And Mancini hit back by claiming that his words only inspired the current City team to play well.

Last season, Hughes, then manager of Fulham, was critical of Mancini the day before City beat the west London club 4-1.

Mancini said: 'I don't know Mark Hughes and he doesn't know me, but I'm happy when he talks to the newspapers because before every game when he talks we win 6-1, 4-1. If he talks about me before every game I'd be happy.'



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Re: Leslie spouts off

Postby Ted Hughes » Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:54 pm

Blueonblue wrote:It amazes me that there are still people who think he was hard done by in the way he was shown the door, even worse that he did some kind of good while poluting the managers office, only now showing himself to be the utter c*nt he always was because he`s bitter at the way he claims he was treated.

From the day he crawled into the club he was an arrogant cluless prick, while some claim that he DID sign some good players, the truth is it was more by luck than judgement, with the flops being the norm rather than the exception, even what could be classed as good players came with problems and certainly never fitted together to even look like the start of a good team.

Compare it with how Roberto went about building a team, with the exception of Boatang all his signings fitted into the system that looked better every time he added to the sqaud, he cleared out most of numpties flops whil improving those he could use.

The other side of the coin is the damage done to the club by the dogs bastard, besides landing us with crap players on silly contracts and little resale value, we lost players like Elano and Dunnie, Danny Sturidge was treated like a c*nt over a contract ( All he was after was exactly the same as other accademy graduates, numpty offered him half ) an then subject to fairy stories leaked to the media by the lying numpty bastard and his "Tafia", A lie that is still accepted by some on this board I am disapointed to see.

On the fairy stories in the media routine Danny was not the only victim, Dunnie, Jo ,Elano, M J, and Micah Richards all came in the frame after a run in with numpty, we lost the club doctor and the players mister fixit, both had been at the club over 15 or more years, and the accademy staff were at war with the cunt from the off, leading to J.C. and his senior staff being moved sideways within the club structure to avoid a mass walk out.

So no, he wasn`t treaded badly by the club, his claims of not knowing he was being flirted while after the final game was proved to be yet another lie when it emerged he had sought adice on the matter saturday morning.

Had it been my shout, I would have called him into the middle of the pitch at half time and fired his usless arse in public, he was, is, and always will be an utter classless c*nt.


Personally I wish various revisionist cunts would stop posting this kind of utter fucking shite as it forces people like myself into defending somebody i don't even like, just for the sake of historical correctneess.

If you want 36 pages of fucking argument, we can go into detail. I think his latest intrusion by Hughes is pathetic & obscene, he's made a cunt of himself & can rot in rag hell. If you want a day to day argument about how easy it is to take over from Frank & Sven & build a foundation for success however, you'll fucking get one.

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Re: Leslie spouts off

Postby Blueonblue » Sun Oct 30, 2011 2:18 am

If you want a day to day argument about how easy it is to take over from Frank & Sven & build a foundation for success however, you'll fucking get one.

Where the f*ck you get any kind of foundation for success down to the clueless cu*t I will never know, he built nothing, most of his signings have gone or sat on their arse getting big bucks.

His only act was to spend a fortune to finish a place below what Sven managed, while whinging after every game like the bitch he is, that results were not his fault but the refs, or the players, or his need for more time and money, or anything else but the fact he was a sh*te manager,

The more relavant fact is that after flopping again in his next job he is now on the dole, where he belongs.
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Re: Leslie spouts off

Postby Slim » Sun Oct 30, 2011 3:56 am

Just a thought, he was offered a contract extension at Fulham, was all set to sign it and then didn't at the last minute. He probably isn't without a job on purpose as there were a couple I think he thought he was all set for, but Fulham didn't want rid.
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Re: Leslie spouts off

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:31 am

Blueonblue wrote:If you want a day to day argument about how easy it is to take over from Frank & Sven & build a foundation for success however, you'll fucking get one.

Where the f*ck you get any kind of foundation for success down to the clueless cu*t I will never know, he built nothing, most of his signings have gone or sat on their arse getting big bucks.

His only act was to spend a fortune to finish a place below what Sven managed, while whinging after every game like the bitch he is, that results were not his fault but the refs, or the players, or his need for more time and money, or anything else but the fact he was a sh*te manager,

The more relavant fact is that after flopping again in his next job he is now on the dole, where he belongs.


When you fucking people start this shit, you always do it in a dishonest manner. If people want to criticise Hughes for things he actually did & things he actually got wrong & compare THAT to what Mancini has achieved, it's fair enough. The problem I have is when people pick out random shit & use it as an example.

I would have got rid of Dunne in a flash but according to a recent interview with the player, Hughes wanted to keep him but Gary Cook wanted to balance the books. Either way I'm glad he's gone, he was dogshite for villa.

The fact that you mention Elano, Jo & MJ in that, is fucking ridiculous.

When you say he bulit nothing; the backbone of this team was brought in by him. Why haven't they been replaced ?

Why haven't the academy people been brought back ? Answer; because the people who own the club were not happy with it & are building something else.

Hughes had a job to do, which he did. The question was whether he was the right bloke to take it on which he probably wasn't. That doesn't mean that everything he did was wrong.
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Re: Leslie spouts off

Postby Slim » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:54 am

Ted Hughes wrote:Why haven't the academy people been brought back ? Answer; because the people who own the club were not happy with it & are building something else.



The same could be said for Hughes.
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Re: Leslie spouts off

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:13 am

Slim wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Why haven't the academy people been brought back ? Answer; because the people who own the club were not happy with it & are building something else.



The same could be said for Hughes.


Well that would be fair enough. Somebody had to be in charge inbetween though & imo, the bloke did exactly what he was brought in to do. It wasn't the easy job people pretend it to be. It's a pity he's decided to embarrass himself in public now, rather than just be a part of City's transition but fuck him.
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Re: Leslie spouts off

Postby Blueonblue » Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:42 pm

When you fucking people start this shit, you always do it in a dishonest manner.............I think this hat is your pal, you convieniantly "Forget" things like Joe Hart was heading out the door, as was Micah, we had no left back, Kompany was signed as a defencive midfield player and to claim Lescott as a better player than Dunnie or even near on the evidence of his preformances untill recently is a joke right ?.

Numpty used a shotgun aproach to signings, if the media rated them then he put a silly bid in, that he got some good players is hardly a supprise, that he got so many bad ones is a f*cking discrace, as is the value they are in fact worth in comparison to what was paid.

What went on at the club under that dogs bastard we are still paying for litteraly, his little hate campains against anyone who he perceived crossed him was all over the pages of the MuEN and the daily Mail, look back and you will find negative stories on all the players mentioned, the club Dr and players Mr Fixit both left the club after run ins with "That c*nt" are a matter of record.

Like you, I have better things to do than look back at numpties many failures, but to leave the impression that he was in some way treated badly needed clarification, he was a f*cking disaster for the club from start to finnish.
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Re: Leslie spouts off

Postby Alioune DVToure » Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:58 pm

Blueonblue wrote:When you fucking people start this shit, you always do it in a dishonest manner.............I think this hat is your pal, you convieniantly "Forget" things like Joe Hart was heading out the door, as was Micah, we had no left back, Kompany was signed as a defencive midfield player and [highlight]to claim Lescott as a better player than Dunnie or even near on the evidence of his preformances untill recently is a joke right ?.[/highlight]

Numpty used a shotgun aproach to signings, if the media rated them then he put a silly bid in, that he got some good players is hardly a supprise, that he got so many bad ones is a f*cking discrace, as is the value they are in fact worth in comparison to what was paid.

What went on at the club under that dogs bastard we are still paying for litteraly, his little hate campains against anyone who he perceived crossed him was all over the pages of the MuEN and the daily Mail, look back and you will find negative stories on all the players mentioned, the club Dr and players Mr Fixit both left the club after run ins with "That c*nt" are a matter of record.

Like you, I have better things to do than look back at numpties many failures, but to leave the impression that he was in some way treated badly needed clarification, he was a f*cking disaster for the club from start to finnish.


No, I shouldn't imagine it is.

It's hard to take your argument seriously when you can't be objective. Referring to Hughes by the names 'numpty', 'clueless' and 'dogs (sic) bastard' show that you couldn't make a level-headed assessment about his tenure at the club if you tried.

In my opinion he was a good manager who was replaced by a better one. I don't think he should've been sacked when he was (I think he'd earned the right to take us into the cup semi, for example) or how he was (it having become public knowledge before a home game). That said, I'm a bit bored of talking about him now.
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Re: Leslie spouts off

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Oct 30, 2011 1:10 pm

Blueonblue wrote:When you fucking people start this shit, you always do it in a dishonest manner.............I think this hat is your pal, you convieniantly "Forget" things like Joe Hart was heading out the door, as was Micah, we had no left back, Kompany was signed as a defencive midfield player and to claim Lescott as a better player than Dunnie or even near on the evidence of his preformances untill recently is a joke right ?.

Numpty used a shotgun aproach to signings, if the media rated them then he put a silly bid in, that he got some good players is hardly a supprise, that he got so many bad ones is a f*cking discrace, as is the value they are in fact worth in comparison to what was paid.

What went on at the club under that dogs bastard we are still paying for litteraly, his little hate campains against anyone who he perceived crossed him was all over the pages of the MuEN and the daily Mail, look back and you will find negative stories on all the players mentioned, the club Dr and players Mr Fixit both left the club after run ins with "That c*nt" are a matter of record.

Like you, I have better things to do than look back at numpties many failures, but to leave the impression that he was in some way treated badly needed clarification, he was a f*cking disaster for the club from start to finnish.


Yeah we were in great shape when he arrived (Thasksin's goons trying to sell City players behind the manager's back, Jo signing for 18 million fucking quid, ex manager made to go on tour before being fired, no proper pre season) & terrible when he left, (on course for top 6-7, semi final of the league cup one injury plagued defeat in about 15 fucking games, just beaten Arsenal & Chelsea).

This is exactly the kind of dishonest argument I'm talking about. If he wasn't quite upto the standard we require, fair enough. The 'disaster' bollox is fucking nonsense peddled by morons.
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Re: Leslie spouts off

Postby ronk » Sun Oct 30, 2011 2:20 pm

It's interesting to go back and look at Hughes' record with attacking players. Mancini is his own man and has moved on some good players who didn't fit in his system, but it's still painful reading when you think of the amounts of money involved.

Purchased by Hughes:
Jo £18m
SWP £9m
Robinho £32.5m
Craig Bellamy £14m
RSC £17.5m
Tevez £25m*
Adebayor £25m

In the squad when he arrived:
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Elano
Evans
Caicedo
Bojinov

A loss on all those transfers in only 3 seasons, even where they'd been in good form. £141m + whatever extra we paid Joorabchian. I don't think we did well on any of the players who moved on. Elano was highly sought after and we broke about even. Sturridge was a steal for Chelsea. Caicedo went for a token amount and was immediately flipped for a profit.

None of it counts for FFP (thankfully), but it was a misstep in our development.

Depending on perspective, it's possible to place the blame on Mancini or Hughes, but Mancini hasn't made a bad purchase of an attacking player yet, even though he made some risky ones. Same can't be said about Hughes.
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Re: Leslie spouts off

Postby CityGer » Sun Oct 30, 2011 2:29 pm

ronk wrote:It's interesting to go back and look at Hughes' record with attacking players. Mancini is his own man and has moved on some good players who didn't fit in his system, but it's still painful reading when you think of the amounts of money involved.

Purchased by Hughes:
Jo £18m
SWP £9m
Robinho £32.5m
Craig Bellamy £14m
RSC £17.5m
Tevez £25m*
Adebayor £25m

In the squad when he arrived:
Sturridge
Elano
Evans
Caicedo
Bojinov

A loss on all those transfers in only 3 seasons, even where they'd been in good form. £141m + whatever extra we paid Joorabchian. I don't think we did well on any of the players who moved on. Elano was highly sought after and we broke about even. Sturridge was a steal for Chelsea. Caicedo went for a token amount and was immediately flipped for a profit.

None of it counts for FFP (thankfully), but it was a misstep in our development.

Depending on perspective, it's possible to place the blame on Mancini or Hughes, but Mancini hasn't made a bad purchase of an attacking player yet, even though he made some risky ones. Same can't be said about Hughes.


Hughes had nothing to do with the Jo signing and I don't think he had much say in us buying Robinho either. Your point still stands to an extent but the only blunders I'd say Hughes was responsible for were the two worst: Ade and Santa Cruz-Doubtful. Both poor buys, miles over market value and players who had question marks over them for off the field matters. We'll lose a minimum of £25Mil on these two on transfer value alone, not to mention wages.
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Re: Leslie spouts off

Postby ronk » Sun Oct 30, 2011 3:56 pm

CityGer wrote:Hughes had nothing to do with the Jo signing and I don't think he had much say in us buying Robinho either. Your point still stands to an extent but the only blunders I'd say Hughes was responsible for were the two worst: Ade and Santa Cruz-Doubtful. Both poor buys, miles over market value and players who had question marks over them for off the field matters. We'll lose a minimum of £25Mil on these two on transfer value alone, not to mention wages.


Deal was signed after Hughes took over and he went out of his way to say that he was being given veto rights on the transfer. He doesn't get any points for that.

There was an inevitable element of wastage with such a rushed rebuilding program, but it really does look like Hughes was careless. Hughes went for immediate impact from players at or past their peak. Mancini bought young players who all needed a settling period (Aguero aside). Dzeko is the grand-daddy of our current strikeforce at 25. Even Tevez is 27.

Maybe it's true that Hughes wasn't calling the shots on transfers, but it can't have been anyone else when we were signing RSC and Bellamy and if he wasn't involved elsewhere then he shouldn't have pretended that he was.

From day 1 Hughes was talking about signing Ronaldinho as his main target. That was the type of strategy we were going for when Hughes took the job, he knew what he was getting himself into and he was given support.

I don't deny that there was a lot he got right. But what use was 7 draws in a row against ordinary opposition then beating Chelsea and drawing with Bolton.
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Re: Leslie spouts off

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:04 pm

The cunt deserves all the slagging off he gets and it pees me off no end when City fans try and defend him....he was clueless in so many departments..too many to mention.

Bringing in his Taffia training crew was a disgrace as they were all ex no bodies.

Buying RSC was an even bigger disgrace and a sack-able offence in itself.
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