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Re: Players who can change us this summer

Postby Balotelli » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:18 am

I'd like to see us play with 1 winger like Valencia did last night for United. But if we play with 1 winger, they'd have to be an excellent wide man like:

Bale, Hazard, Di Maria, Lavezzi.

I believe that with a proper wideman (no disrespect to AJ) we'd be pissing the league with our quality and Silva would have more room to operate in because wingers help stretch the opposition line. They're also effective especially against teams that park the bus.

Take a look at Neville's anaylsis on why we fail to break compact teams down:
[youtube]YBaDDC6ca08[/youtube]

Pizarro's passing ability is alarming. Not because it's excellent, but he shows that we have no true brilliant midfield passers besides Yaya and Silva.

I would love for a player like Javier Martinez to combine intelligent defensive play , box to box tenacity, and an eye for a pass. Lad has great technique as well and can slot in central defence with absolute ease.
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Re: Players who can change us this summer

Postby Mike J » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:28 am

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Re: Players who can change us this summer

Postby Im_Spartacus » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:33 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
That's worse starting eleven than we have now. And you have way too many players on the bench.

People just casually say "replace Dzeko with Neymar". Now Dzeko has had some dodgy moments but he has still contributed with 17 goals this season. Neymar is small and soft bag of shite who has only ever done it in currently weak Brazilian league. And while I can't claim to have followed Brazilian league through any more than highlights in recent years, it seems he is having down year even there.

It's crap like that that makes me think some of our supporters are seriously spoiled. I mean, I'm sure there are better strikers than Dzeko but it's not video game either.

Then is that Cheick Tiote in the middle? I like the feller but we already have likes of Barry, De Jong and Milner. I'm not sure he'd be upgrade on any of them.

Eden Hazard = Samir Nasri.

Spending for the sake of player turnover isn't going to improve us at this stage.


Neymar has signed for barca hasnt he?
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Re: Players who can change us this summer

Postby Mike J » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:35 am

Balotelli wrote:I'd like to see us play with 1 winger like Valencia did last night for United. But if we play with 1 winger, they'd have to be an excellent wide man like:

Bale, Hazard, Di Maria, Lavezzi.

I believe that with a proper wideman (no disrespect to AJ) we'd be pissing the league with our quality and Silva would have more room to operate in because wingers help stretch the opposition line. They're also effective especially against teams that park the bus.

Take a look at Neville's anaylsis on why we fail to break compact teams down:
[youtube]YBaDDC6ca08[/youtube]

Pizarro's passing ability is alarming. Not because it's excellent, but he shows that we have no true brilliant midfield passers besides Yaya and Silva.

I would love for a player like Javier Martinez to combine intelligent defensive play , box to box tenacity, and an eye for a pass. Lad has great technique as well and can slot in central defence with absolute ease.


pretty much spot on bythe rat. its been that way for a long time now. we have no plan B.
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Re: Players who can change us this summer

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:37 am

Im_Spartacus wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
That's worse starting eleven than we have now. And you have way too many players on the bench.

People just casually say "replace Dzeko with Neymar". Now Dzeko has had some dodgy moments but he has still contributed with 17 goals this season. Neymar is small and soft bag of shite who has only ever done it in currently weak Brazilian league. And while I can't claim to have followed Brazilian league through any more than highlights in recent years, it seems he is having down year even there.

It's crap like that that makes me think some of our supporters are seriously spoiled. I mean, I'm sure there are better strikers than Dzeko but it's not video game either.

Then is that Cheick Tiote in the middle? I like the feller but we already have likes of Barry, De Jong and Milner. I'm not sure he'd be upgrade on any of them.

Eden Hazard = Samir Nasri.

Spending for the sake of player turnover isn't going to improve us at this stage.


Neymar has signed for barca hasnt he?


He has? Well the point stands though. I don't see him being any sort of success in Premier League elsewhere but in paper.
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Re: Players who can change us this summer

Postby Im_Spartacus » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:44 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
He has? Well the point stands though. I don't see him being any sort of success in Premier League elsewhere but in paper.


I agree anyway. No more brazilians. Ever
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Re: Players who can change us this summer

Postby Tru_Blu » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:54 am

we only need to replace Pizarro with a permanent creative midfielder (a Nedved type) replace Tevez and that boygeorge Kolarov score or not your still a wanker in my book. Oh and get Chamberlain from our feeder club
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Re: Players who can change us this summer

Postby lets all have a disco » Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:07 am

Im not saying sign Darren Bent far from it but he consistently scores more goals than Edin.

I just dont rate him he needs a Rocky esq training camp to teach him how to control the ball properly.
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Re: Players who can change us this summer

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:22 am

lets all have a disco wrote:Im not saying sign Darren Bent far from it but he consistently scores more goals than Edin.
I just dont rate him he needs a Rocky esq training camp to teach him how to control the ball properly.


That's just not true mate. I understand critism directed towards Dzeko at some areas of his game but you can't question his strike rate really.
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Re: Players who can change us this summer

Postby Goaters 103 » Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:24 am

Makes sense to flog Edin for £20m plus, then bring back Guidetti from loan who can likely do the same job and would cost us zilch. Im not Guidetti's biggest fan, but post-August I am sure he could produce the same amount of goals Dzeko has done in the 4th striker role.

That £20m plus can then go into the pot, along with another £20m plus for Tevez, maybe £10 - £12m for Kolarov, 65p for Savic and a packet of Monster Munch for Kolo. We can also get Adebaoyor, Pizarro and De Jong likely off the wage books too, which gives us a nice transfer pot towards the winger, striker, c-half and cent midf we need.
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Re: Players who can change us this summer

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:41 am

DoomMerchant wrote:
Dazzacity wrote:Id keep Kolarov !! the guy has a brilliant left boot. Ins would be Van Persie and Bale. Two proven players in the Prem. Along with another centre back and a Barry replacement.


i don't get the Barry slagging lately. Barry starting last Saturday == 3 pts i think. Am i crazy?

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I think you are correct. The pass for Sunderland's 1st goal would have been a pass straight to Gareth Barry & Kolarov had no cover.

I don't agree with NQDP that Hazard is the same as Nasri. I recon I was the 1st to mention him on here, when he ran rings round Liverpool at Anfield several years ago & he is 'potentially' a top bracket, special Barca standard player imo. 'Potentially' is still the word though.

As regards Dzeko, I would prefer to keep him BUT if we do that & he has a half arsed season we have another Adebayor situation, wheras if we were to sell him now, there are still teams who remember his exploits in Germany & will look at his good rather than bad games for City when judging him.

I don't think our striking options compliment each other though, so it's not just a question of quality but of blend. Imo, if we'd never signed Dzeko or Balotelli & signed two others who fit in better instead, we would have found it easier to break down bus parking teams.

A simple example was when someone fired a long ball which Balotelli controlled expertly on his chest & then totally ignored Dzeko running past him, just as Dzeko ignores most players running past him. In the old days, Ian Wright or Mark Bright would just chest the ball into the path of his fellow striker & it's 1-0.

If we're to keep all these blokes, they need to learn to play together. We should have a specialist striking coach imo.
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Re: Players who can change us this summer

Postby Rag_hater » Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:06 am

Does anybody know anything about this Thiago Silva,I've only seen him on youtube but a lot of people say he's very good.
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Re: Players who can change us this summer

Postby Renato_CTID » Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:05 pm

http://www.tuttocagliari.net/?action=re ... izia=15041

I watch regularly in our Serie A Radja Nainngolan and also for me this guy would be really a top midfielder for our beloved City!
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Re: Players who can change us this summer

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:21 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:
Dazzacity wrote:Id keep Kolarov !! the guy has a brilliant left boot. Ins would be Van Persie and Bale. Two proven players in the Prem. Along with another centre back and a Barry replacement.


i don't get the Barry slagging lately. Barry starting last Saturday == 3 pts i think. Am i crazy?

cheers


I think you are correct. The pass for Sunderland's 1st goal would have been a pass straight to Gareth Barry & Kolarov had no cover.

I don't agree with NQDP that Hazard is the same as Nasri. I recon I was the 1st to mention him on here, when he ran rings round Liverpool at Anfield several years ago & he is 'potentially' a top bracket, special Barca standard player imo. 'Potentially' is still the word though.

As regards Dzeko, I would prefer to keep him BUT if we do that & he has a half arsed season we have another Adebayor situation, wheras if we were to sell him now, there are still teams who remember his exploits in Germany & will look at his good rather than bad games for City when judging him.

I don't think our striking options compliment each other though, so it's not just a question of quality but of blend. Imo, if we'd never signed Dzeko or Balotelli & signed two others who fit in better instead, we would have found it easier to break down bus parking teams.

A simple example was when someone fired a long ball which Balotelli controlled expertly on his chest & then totally ignored Dzeko running past him, just as Dzeko ignores most players running past him. In the old days, Ian Wright or Mark Bright would just chest the ball into the path of his fellow striker & it's 1-0.

If we're to keep all these blokes, they need to learn to play together. We should have a specialist striking coach imo.


Ian Wright never passed to Mark Bright! It was Bright who did all the work and Wright just scored the goals. I remember my dad pointing at telly when Palace was on and saying "son, you want to be like that Bright feller, he is the one they have most respect on the dressing room".

I agree that our strikers don't compliment each other well. Balotelli and Dzeko should never be on the pitch same time. Dzeko works best playing alongside speedster like he did in Germany with Grafite. I think he could do that with Aguero but clearly Aguero hasn't settled that well to team and league YET.
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Re: Players who can change us this summer

Postby DoomMerchant » Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:22 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Ian Wright never passed to Mark Bright! It was Bright who did all the work and Wright just scored the goals. I remember my dad pointing at telly when Palace was on and saying "son, you want to be like that Bright feller, he is the one they have most respect on the dressing room".

I agree that our strikers don't compliment each other well. Balotelli and Dzeko should never be on the pitch same time. Dzeko works best playing alongside speedster like he did in Germany with Grafite. I think he could do that with Aguero but clearly Aguero hasn't settled that well to team and league YET.


So yr saying that yr old man told you that in English?

Yr so full of shit. I love you.

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Re: Players who can change us this summer

Postby dazby » Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:14 am

The side is bedded in now. It would all depend on who wants out of course but in terms of incomings, Hazard would be nice. I would also scour the Olympics with a fine tooth comb looking for gems. A replacement for Savic and that's it.
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Re: Players who can change us this summer

Postby Stannaz1988 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:44 am

Savic- out
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We need to keep a big part of squad as we will be swapping and changing every year, maybe lose dzeko for young up n coming hungry striker, stop buying these so called goal scorers and buy a youngster, bring in world class CB and a winger who can cross a ball, hazard for example, if not this year we will win PL next year, good run in CL, BLUE MOON FOREVER
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Re: Players who can change us this summer

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:17 am

DoomMerchant wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Ian Wright never passed to Mark Bright! It was Bright who did all the work and Wright just scored the goals. I remember my dad pointing at telly when Palace was on and saying "son, you want to be like that Bright feller, he is the one they have most respect on the dressing room".

I agree that our strikers don't compliment each other well. Balotelli and Dzeko should never be on the pitch same time. Dzeko works best playing alongside speedster like he did in Germany with Grafite. I think he could do that with Aguero but clearly Aguero hasn't settled that well to team and league YET.


So yr saying that yr old man told you that in English?

Yr so full of shit. I love you.

Cheers


Well I hade to translate that didn't I? I mean "katso tota Brightia, sitä noi muut jätkät arvostaa, eikä tuota Wrightia vaikka se tekeekin enemmän maaleja" wouldn't have made much sense.
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Re: Players who can change us this summer

Postby Nigels Tackle » Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:21 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Ian Wright never passed to Mark Bright! It was Bright who did all the work and Wright just scored the goals. I remember my dad pointing at telly when Palace was on and saying "son, you want to be like that Bright feller, he is the one they have most respect on the dressing room".

I agree that our strikers don't compliment each other well. Balotelli and Dzeko should never be on the pitch same time. Dzeko works best playing alongside speedster like he did in Germany with Grafite. I think he could do that with Aguero but clearly Aguero hasn't settled that well to team and league YET.


So yr saying that yr old man told you that in English?

Yr so full of shit. I love you.

Cheers



Well I hade to translate that didn't I? I mean "katso tota Brightia, sitä noi muut jätkät arvostaa, eikä tuota Wrightia vaikka se tekeekin enemmän maaleja" wouldn't have made much sense.


that makes more sense than palus....
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