Germany vs. Italia

[Ted Hughes]

Agree with NQDP on Lahm, massively overated. Why did he go forwardwhen Bathstuber, a feckin donkey if ever there was one, was playing Ballo on side.Have to say thats the first time I've seen evidence that Ballo can be a world beater. If the daft fecker hadn't got booked he could have stayed on and would have got five. I noticed his torso is very similar to Rooney's.

Legs like a hyena's grandad.

How could anyone connected with our club, ever have considered allowing that to wear our kit ?

Back to the subject: I wouldn't want any of that German back 4 anywhere near our club.

[phips]

Shocked and gutted.
Picked and wanted Germany to win it all...wanted Gomez to get the Boot.

Although, I am Italian so I guess thats cool that they made it.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Shocked and gutted.
Picked and wanted Germany to win it all...wanted Gomez to get the Boot.

Although, I am Italian so I guess thats cool that they made it.

Are you Italian or American who has Italian roots? No piss take but genuine question.

[Original Dub]

Are you Italian or American who has Italian roots? No piss take but genuine question.

I had an american sittimg across from me on holidays last week telling me he was "full italian" and his wife was "half italian".

Both were definitely yanks.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Are you Italian or American who has Italian roots? No piss take but genuine question.

I had an american sittimg across from me on holidays last week telling me he was "full italian" and his wife was "half italian".

Both were definitely yanks.

It's American phenomena I've never quite understood. I mean I myself have German and Swedish ancestors and my grandfather is from area that currently part of Russia (although it was still part of Finland when he was born). But people would think I'm strange if I said I'm Swedish.

I have absolutely no objections for American people keeping in touch with their roots but I just can't quite understand it. I've met Americans who have claimed to be Greek, Irish and Chinese but every single one of them were born and bred in United States of America.

[Avalon]

I've always found that Americans always boast about being American, until you mention you're from Europe and then suddenly they're part this, part that, and a little bit of something else... as if that has some sort of connection to you haha.

[Alex Sapphire]

Are you Italian or American who has Italian roots? No piss take but genuine question.

I had an american sittimg across from me on holidays last week telling me he was "full italian" and his wife was "half italian".

Both were definitely yanks.

didn't they used to say there were 70 million Irish in the world, but only 4 million in Ireland?

[Blue Blood]

Back to the subject: I wouldn't want any of that German back 4 anywhere near our club.

Funny thing is I heard City had a big interest in Hummels earlier the year but quickly concluded he was too slow.

Never quite saw it myself but after lasts nights performance from Germany, perhaps they were right.

[Wonderwall]

Vialli can come up with cleverer analogies in a foreign language than any of those usual MoTD stooges in their native tongue.

That tomato ketchup bottle analogy was rather confusing.

[Blue Blood]

Vialli can come up with cleverer analogies in a foreign language than any of those usual MoTD stooges in their native tongue.

That tomato ketchup bottle analogy was rather confusing.

I rather liked it.

Nice to see a pundit actually trying to be interesting for once!

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Back to the subject: I wouldn't want any of that German back 4 anywhere near our club.

Funny thing is I heard City had a big interest in Hummels earlier the year but quickly concluded he was too slow.

Never quite saw it myself but after lasts nights performance from Germany, perhaps they were right.

Hummels isn't bad defender by any means but it's really Subotic who makes him look so good.

[freshie]

That tomato ketchup bottle analogy was rather confusing.

What was it? I missed it

[Wonderwall]

What was it? I missed it

It was along the lines of being a striker can sometimes be like trying to get ketchup out of a bottle. You keep banging away and nothing happens for ages and then all of a sudden bang you get loads.... No idea why he thought of that?

[Original Dub]

didn't they used to say there were 70 million Irish in the world, but only 4 million in Ireland?

They sure did/do.

There's 30m "Irish" in Boston alone apparently.

[mr_nool]

What was it? I missed it

It was along the lines of being a striker can sometimes be like trying to get ketchup out of a bottle. You keep banging away and nothing happens for ages and then all of a sudden bang you get loads.... No idea why he thought of that?

That analogy is used commonly in Sweden as well. We even call it "the Ketchup Effect". It refers to the Heinz glass bottles.
Wouldn't surprise me that it originally is an American analogy.

[DoomMerchant]

What was it? I missed it

It was along the lines of being a striker can sometimes be like trying to get ketchup out of a bottle. You keep banging away and nothing happens for ages and then all of a sudden bang you get loads.... No idea why he thought of that?

That analogy is used commonly in Sweden as well. We even call it "the Ketchup Effect". It refers to the Heinz glass bottles.
Wouldn't surprise me that it originally is an American analogy.

It's an Italian-American analogy. It must be since my mother used it, and she was Italian.

Look, the point about Americans pining to be Eurotrash is very true. We know we're a country founded by immigrants, or rather, colonized by immigrants, as all colonies are i suppose. Ahem, anyway....

Do i consider myself Italian or Dutch? of course not...but i know that my family has those roots and it's fun to learn about. Only the Italian traditions were kept alive and only through my mothers generation...with all of us kids it's dissipated. We did however grow up in a household with an extended Italian family, most of whom were born in Italy or were first-generation Americans. Italians, like most Europeans and unlike the current immigrants of today i find, assimilated as job numero uno, and that of course leads to both a bastardization of the culture, and a longing in some parts to keep even the smallest of traditions alive. I grew up with a lot of really influential famlial Italian things that i know my grandmother and grandfather learned in Italy or from their Italian, truly Italian, parents after they arrived in America in the early 1920s...sadly i don't continue any of those traditions...many centered around the Church as well, and i'm not exactly the organized religious type.

The Dutch, and likely German, side of my father were in American for a lot longer...and they were prim, proper farmers...if i consider jam-making and farming culture, which i suppose i do, then there is a lot of that still left, but it is in no way nationalistic.

Americans that say "my wife is half-Italian and i'm full Italian" is just telling you where their families originated many decades or even centuries ago. I can assure you that we are all...Americans. We're just trying to have a conversation...don't hate us. Some of us are dumb, some of us are brilliant. Just like you. ;)

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[Tokyo Blue]

Americans that say "my wife is half-Italian and i'm full Italian" is just telling you where their families originated many decades or even centuries ago. I can assure you that we are all...Americans. We're just trying to have a conversation...

No-one gives a shit where a random person they've just met's grandparents came from.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

What was it? I missed it

It was along the lines of being a striker can sometimes be like trying to get ketchup out of a bottle. You keep banging away and nothing happens for ages and then all of a sudden bang you get loads.... No idea why he thought of that?

That analogy is used commonly in Sweden as well. We even call it "the Ketchup Effect". It refers to the Heinz glass bottles.
Wouldn't surprise me that it originally is an American analogy.

In Finland as well. And especially regarding sports. Like you get one goal and then score loads in following games. Monkey off the back if you will.

Doomy, I wasn't trying to take the piss or anything. It's just phenomena that's very alien to most people in Europe. Like if I was having casual conversation with someone I didn't know too well and said "by the way I have German and Swedish Ancestors" they'd be like if "ok, what the hell do I care". In fact, now that I think of it, I don't have slightest of ideas where the ancestors of my best friends are from (if anywhere interesting). It's just not topic of discussion.

[DoomMerchant]

Americans that say "my wife is half-Italian and i'm full Italian" is just telling you where their families originated many decades or even centuries ago. I can assure you that we are all...Americans. We're just trying to have a conversation...

No-one gives a shit where a random person they've just met's grandparents came from.

that's right...if anyone in the future gives you such info, which i'm doubting has ever happened in your life, then tell them that.

[mr_nool]

What was it? I missed it

It was along the lines of being a striker can sometimes be like trying to get ketchup out of a bottle. You keep banging away and nothing happens for ages and then all of a sudden bang you get loads.... No idea why he thought of that?

That analogy is used commonly in Sweden as well. We even call it "the Ketchup Effect". It refers to the Heinz glass bottles.
Wouldn't surprise me that it originally is an American analogy.

In Finland as well. And especially regarding sports. Like you get one goal and then score loads in following games. Monkey off the back if you will.

Doomy, I wasn't trying to take the piss or anything. It's just phenomena that's very alien to most people in Europe. Like if I was having casual conversation with someone I didn't know too well and said "by the way I have German and Swedish Ancestors" they'd be like if "ok, what the hell do I care". In fact, now that I think of it, I don't have slightest of ideas where the ancestors of my best friends are from (if anywhere interesting). It's just not topic of discussion.

My theory is that we've taken it from the NHL. You mostly hear it in regards to ice hockey in Sweden.