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Re: AJ leaving

Postby Slim » Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:28 am

Rag_hater wrote:Good luck kid.
Can anybody who is good at maths figure out where this leaves us in regard to us breaking even,along with the fee we are getting for Ade or how much more we need.


Signed for £6M, rose to £7M with that interntional appearance. Agents fees? Who knows.
He was being paid £3M/year. He was with us for 2½ years, making his total cost roughly £14.5M.

We got £12M for him. I heard there were £5M in possible addons, but unless they all come in, we end up making a loss...this isn't uncommon though, and the idea is to put a value on what he earned for the club while he was here, now there is a trick.


Adebayor we paid £25M for at £160,000/week, 3 years ago. Now I believe neither Real nor Tottenham paid a loan fee, but Real at least covered his wages, whereas Tottenham only covered half. Leaving us with a staggering £12.8M in wages for one season and 15 goals. Then sold for £5M flat.A loss in total of £32.8M.

No doubt these figured will appear in Ladyboy's next article.
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Re: AJ leaving

Postby The Sheikh » Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:46 am

You can't surely count wages he earned whilst at City as a loss?
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Re: AJ leaving

Postby Rag_hater » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:38 am

Slim wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:Good luck kid.
Can anybody who is good at maths figure out where this leaves us in regard to us breaking even,along with the fee we are getting for Ade or how much more we need.


Signed for £6M, rose to £7M with that interntional appearance. Agents fees? Who knows.
He was being paid £3M/year. He was with us for 2½ years, making his total cost roughly £14.5M.

We got £12M for him. I heard there were £5M in possible addons, but unless they all come in, we end up making a loss...this isn't uncommon though, and the idea is to put a value on what he earned for the club while he was here, now there is a trick.


Adebayor we paid £25M for at £160,000/week, 3 years ago. Now I believe neither Real nor Tottenham paid a loan fee, but Real at least covered his wages, whereas Tottenham only covered half. Leaving us with a staggering £12.8M in wages for one season and 15 goals. Then sold for £5M flat.A loss in total of £32.8M.

No doubt these figured will appear in Ladyboy's next article.



Thanks for that but it is not what I am trying to understand.
What's confusing me is City reported a turnover of £153.2m for the 2010/11 season, a sum that placed 12th in Deloitte's annual ranking of football club incomes. That figure, although a 22 per cent increase on the preceding year, left City behind United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Tottenham on the list of Premier League earners. It also came in tandem with a loss of £194.9m.
So is our shortfall 194.9 - 153.2 or is it just 194.9.
Sorry if seems silly but I cannot figure it out.
Cos to me if with the sale of now AJ and Ade ,we add those figures to lets say we make the same as last year we come into the figure we are allowed.
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Re: AJ leaving

Postby Grandad Rosler » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:21 pm

DoomMerchant wrote:
eggsackly...it's taking the piss really. Clearly we needed to move folks out and no one would pull their finger out for him.

we better damn well have leatherface on the phone right fucking now signing up some sons of bitches.

please.


I retract my statement (well apart from him being piss poor defensively)

I laughed my tits off when I saw how much fletcher had gone for.

AJ has therefore gone for at least 5 million less than he should have
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Re: AJ leaving

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:41 am

This is not intended to slate James Milner who is IMHO lost in roles he is given by Bob, AJ'S best bits over the last 18 months do again make James look like a lucky boy to get a shirt with us. Hard working, tackles tracks back etc but once again yesterday for me looks no more than average athlete. I like James honest hard worker but nothing else sorry if it offends.
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Re: AJ leaving

Postby Blue Since 76 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:39 pm

Hazy2 wrote:This is not intended to slate James Milner who is IMHO lost in roles he is given by Bob, AJ'S best bits over the last 18 months do again make James look like a lucky boy to get a shirt with us. Hard working, tackles tracks back etc but once again yesterday for me looks no more than average athlete. I like James honest hard worker but nothing else sorry if it offends.


Milner strikes me as a midfielder who, if he gets out wide, can beat a man and put in a brilliant cross. However, stick him on the wing and he hasn't got the pace or tricks to beat a fullback who is set up to defend against him. For England in summer, they basically used him to tire the fullback out for an hour before putting on Walcott or Ox-Chamberlain.

We need to find a position for him that gets the most out of his attributes and doesn't show up his weaknesses.
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Re: AJ leaving

Postby DoomMerchant » Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:42 pm

Blue Since 76 wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:This is not intended to slate James Milner who is IMHO lost in roles he is given by Bob, AJ'S best bits over the last 18 months do again make James look like a lucky boy to get a shirt with us. Hard working, tackles tracks back etc but once again yesterday for me looks no more than average athlete. I like James honest hard worker but nothing else sorry if it offends.


Milner strikes me as a midfielder who, if he gets out wide, can beat a man and put in a brilliant cross. However, stick him on the wing and he hasn't got the pace or tricks to beat a fullback who is set up to defend against him. For England in summer, they basically used him to tire the fullback out for an hour before putting on Walcott or Ox-Chamberlain.

We need to find a position for him that gets the most out of his attributes and doesn't show up his weaknesses.


find a position for him? Martin Fucking O'Neil did that about 4 years ago and he excelled so much that we paid like 25M for him, did we not?

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Re: AJ leaving

Postby Slim » Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:57 pm

Rag_hater wrote:
Slim wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:Good luck kid.
Can anybody who is good at maths figure out where this leaves us in regard to us breaking even,along with the fee we are getting for Ade or how much more we need.


Signed for £6M, rose to £7M with that interntional appearance. Agents fees? Who knows.
He was being paid £3M/year. He was with us for 2½ years, making his total cost roughly £14.5M.

We got £12M for him. I heard there were £5M in possible addons, but unless they all come in, we end up making a loss...this isn't uncommon though, and the idea is to put a value on what he earned for the club while he was here, now there is a trick.


Adebayor we paid £25M for at £160,000/week, 3 years ago. Now I believe neither Real nor Tottenham paid a loan fee, but Real at least covered his wages, whereas Tottenham only covered half. Leaving us with a staggering £12.8M in wages for one season and 15 goals. Then sold for £5M flat.A loss in total of £32.8M.

No doubt these figured will appear in Ladyboy's next article.



Thanks for that but it is not what I am trying to understand.
What's confusing me is City reported a turnover of £153.2m for the 2010/11 season, a sum that placed 12th in Deloitte's annual ranking of football club incomes. That figure, although a 22 per cent increase on the preceding year, left City behind United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Tottenham on the list of Premier League earners. It also came in tandem with a loss of £194.9m.
So is our shortfall 194.9 - 153.2 or is it just 194.9.
Sorry if seems silly but I cannot figure it out.
Cos to me if with the sale of now AJ and Ade ,we add those figures to lets say we make the same as last year we come into the figure we are allowed.


Well turnover isn't profit or loss, so I'd imagine our turnover of £153.2M was destroyed by expenditure of £348.1M. This probably includes the development of the area and academy which are exempt from FFP, any wages for contracts signed before the FFP kicked in are also exempt. We are losing a bit of money still though.

However, with the Champions League money, increase in TV money by a whopping 70% next season and our not inconsiderable market growth at the moment, we should be heading towards parity which, if they hold to the letter of the law, is all we actually need to do.
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Re: AJ leaving

Postby lovecity8utd » Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:42 pm

Just listened to AJ claiming it was easy for Mancini to leave him out because he cost relatively little compared with other city players!! Come on AJ.....
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Re: AJ leaving

Postby Ted Hughes » Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:45 pm

lovecity8utd wrote:Just listened to AJ claiming it was easy for Mancini to leave him out because he cost relatively little compared with other city players!! Come on AJ.....


I hope he's not going to get all twisted.

He left on good terms.
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Re: AJ leaving

Postby Dronny » Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:19 am

Saw that Johnson wasn't even in the squad yesterday, was he injured or not required?
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Re: AJ leaving

Postby Dunnylad » Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:19 am

Dronny wrote:Saw that Johnson wasn't even in the squad yesterday, was he injured or not required?


Injured as he pulled out of international duty as well - thigh strain I think
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