Blatter resigns

[Nigels Tackle]

https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/2093153/blazer.pdf

Chuck Blazer's explosive testimony admitting taking bribes and kickbacks for World Cup nominations, including the South Africa World Cup, whilst on FIFA Exco representing Concacaf. Saying others on Exco did too but doesn't appear to name any names. Another man is apparently negotiating a plea bargain.

who headed up the france 98 bid?

[blues2win]

I think the allegation is that Morocco was involved in the unsuccessful attempt to buy the World Cup which went to France. Blazer was involved in that corrupt effort as he admits in his affidavit.

[mcfc1632]

Hmmm - is this the reason France voted for Blatter?

Wonder why Spain did

[City64]

Hmmm - is this the reason France voted for Blatter?

Wonder why Spain did

PSG France - Qatar

Barcelona Spain - Qatar

[mcfc1632]

Hmmm - is this the reason France voted for Blatter?

Wonder why Spain did

PSG France - Qatar

Barcelona Spain - Qatar

Hmmm - that's seems obvious now its spelt out - my mind was going into a conspiracy theory.

But should a national association work to the advantage of a single club?

Only joking before you respond FA/scum

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

Hmmm - is this the reason France voted for Blatter?

Wonder why Spain did

PSG France - Qatar

Barcelona Spain - Qatar

Hmmm - that's seems obvious now its spelt out - my mind was going into a conspiracy theory.

But should a national association work to the advantage of a single club?

Only joking before you respond FA/scum

I hardly think the Spanish FA are going to run things for the benefit of a Catalan club.

[mcfc1632]

Hmmm - also true - back to conspiracy theory then

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

One of the things that troubles me is who fills the void left.
Europe's wealthiest clubs have been trying to get their hands on Fifa's stash for years. It's the one area of football wealth they have been missing out on. Hence the claim for compensation for using clubs' players in international football.
The likes of Gill being in charge would be like leaving the wolf looking after the sheep.

[Slim]

Hmmm - also true - back to conspiracy theory then

I don't think the Spanish FA are doing it out of the kindness of their hearts. Barca could cause them more than a few headaches if they wanted to, I'm sure at any meeting on this subject, that fact was made painfully clear.

[Im_Spartacus]

So who then is accountable for this behaviour? "Oh sorry, there are too many workers to monitor we can't keep track of what's going on." That's a piss poor way to justify anything from a managerial standpoint, but especially given the consequences here. If the Qataris, as you say, are pressuring the contractors to get the job done then that right there is therefore a root cause of the problem. Through that behaviour the Qataris are then directly responsible for pressuring contractors to make labourors work long hours and in dangerous conditions (heat) and probably turn a blind eye to what is happening because they know they can get away with it. Why? The lack of political power, in particular, that these migrant workers -- desperate enough to travel thousands of miles for a job that does not even pay well -- in a country that is far from democratic have to protect themselves.

Yes, there is a wider problem of migrant workers in other Arab nations (I've seen and know of it in Jordan, for example with workers from Sri Lanka) and elsewhere (I've seen it in Taiwan with Phillipino migrant workers) where they are practically, or really treated like slaves. This is a global problem.

Whether it pays well is subjective. It seems there is some sort of expectation that Indians should be paid a European wage, why? $300-500 a month is enough to support themselves and an extended family in their home country, so why on earth would (or for that matter should) companies pay more than the market rate. In terms of conditions, when under their direct supervision on site, conditions are no worse than a European construction site. In fact most companies have this week moved to summer working hours which reduces the working day from 8 to 6 hours, so the argument of 12 hour days in 50 degree heat is bollocks, it's a media myth that is simply not true.

The Qatari government are putting no more pressure on the contractors than any client does, they want the job done, on time, on budget and in line with the labor law (which has better provisions for employee welfare in construction than British law), and like I said, they pay very, very well within that budget. The issue is down to the subcontractors behaviour, and the impossibility of enforcing sanctions on the subcontractors which have influential Qatari sponsors.

It kinda goes like this, main contractor goes to the govt with a complaint, government are genuinely concerned, but then the complaint gets held up in all manner of red tape for some 'unknown' reason, which everyone knows is due to the Qatari sponsor of the subcontractor using influence to delay proceedings. Unfortunately, it's personal interest interfering in the resolution of issues.

What the main contractors should do, is simply down tools and walk off the jobs, but the contracts make it impossible to do so - I can't speak for the European companies in Qatar, but I know of two British companies at least, who wish they had never bothered.

[patrickblue]

Can't wait for American States United to be awarded the 2022 cup. It's only right the rest of the world thank us for ousting Fuhrer Blatter.

The yanks usually fuck up big time so don't hold your breath pal lol

in comparison to whom, i wonder?

cheers

Everything they get historically involved in usually ,

just sayin .

Oh yeah like when we came to save Europe's ass in both World Wars?...... Your welcome.

The normal answer to that is "eventually"

[Mikhail Chigorin]

Hmmm - also true - back to conspiracy theory then

I like your flexible approach to this matter.

[Ted Hughes]

One of the things that troubles me is who fills the void left.
Europe's wealthiest clubs have been trying to get their hands on Fifa's stash for years. It's the one area of football wealth they have been missing out on. Hence the claim for compensation for using clubs' players in international football.
The likes of Gill being in charge would be like leaving the wolf looking after the sheep.

True in a way, but this whole affair is going to put the wind up people like him, & it will surely lead to wide ranging reform of the procedures involved, thus making it difficult for the kind of corruption we have seen in both FIFA & UEFA to continue. I will be surprised if UEFA get out of this without casualties. Maybe Gill will turn out to be one but maybe he's one of the few who aren't actually 100% corrupt ? Platini voted for Qatar. Why would anyone do that without an ulterior motive ? It's a fucking stupid shite place to have a World Cup. Anyone who voted for it wants investigating imo. I will be surprised if Platini survives this.

Gordon Taylor at the PFA is calling for every confederation to change the way it operates in the future. I think that may be the outcome in the long run, so it will make it more difficult for all these cunts to operate the way they have been doing.

I still think the the top football countries should all get together & form a new organisation & share the World Cup between them. Tell all the Africans, far east, Russians etc they are invitation only & will not get a vote. If they don't like it, they can all just fuck off & play each other.

[iwasthere2012]

One of the things that troubles me is who fills the void left.
Europe's wealthiest clubs have been trying to get their hands on Fifa's stash for years. It's the one area of football wealth they have been missing out on. Hence the claim for compensation for using clubs' players in international football.
The likes of Gill being in charge would be like leaving the wolf looking after the sheep.

True in a way, but this whole affair is going to put the wind up people like him, & it will surely lead to wide ranging reform of the procedures involved, thus making it difficult for the kind of corruption we have seen in both FIFA & UEFA to continue. I will be surprised if UEFA get out of this without casualties. Maybe Gill will turn out to be one but maybe he's one of the few who aren't actually 100% corrupt ? Platini voted for Qatar. Why would anyone do that without an ulterior motive ? It's a fucking stupid shite place to have a World Cup. Anyone who voted for it wants investigating imo. I will be surprised if Platini survives this.

Gordon Taylor at the PFA is calling for every confederation to change the way it operates in the future. I think that may be the outcome in the long run, so it will make it more difficult for all these cunts to operate the way they have been doing.

I still think the the top football countries should all get together & form a new organisation & share the World Cup between them. Tell all the Africans, far east, Russians etc they are invitation only & will not get a vote. If they don't like it, they can all just fuck off & play each other.

A bit like an International version of the G14 Ted, eh?

[gillie]

Jack Warner now saying he has evidence against all the top brass in Fifa and he is ready to bring an avalanche down on them.

[Ted Hughes]

One of the things that troubles me is who fills the void left.
Europe's wealthiest clubs have been trying to get their hands on Fifa's stash for years. It's the one area of football wealth they have been missing out on. Hence the claim for compensation for using clubs' players in international football.
The likes of Gill being in charge would be like leaving the wolf looking after the sheep.

True in a way, but this whole affair is going to put the wind up people like him, & it will surely lead to wide ranging reform of the procedures involved, thus making it difficult for the kind of corruption we have seen in both FIFA & UEFA to continue. I will be surprised if UEFA get out of this without casualties. Maybe Gill will turn out to be one but maybe he's one of the few who aren't actually 100% corrupt ? Platini voted for Qatar. Why would anyone do that without an ulterior motive ? It's a fucking stupid shite place to have a World Cup. Anyone who voted for it wants investigating imo. I will be surprised if Platini survives this.

Gordon Taylor at the PFA is calling for every confederation to change the way it operates in the future. I think that may be the outcome in the long run, so it will make it more difficult for all these cunts to operate the way they have been doing.

I still think the the top football countries should all get together & form a new organisation & share the World Cup between them. Tell all the Africans, far east, Russians etc they are invitation only & will not get a vote. If they don't like it, they can all just fuck off & play each other.

A bit like an International version of the G14 Ted, eh?

In a way yes.

I saw a table showing FIFA voting allocation & Europe plus South America, USA etc together, would not have enough votes to win anything above the combined voting of Africa, Asia etc. So basically the corrupt fucks who vote Blatter in, can then vote on anything else they fancy, & get it carried.

He has got so many of them in there, that if you give them all a vote, they can still make a right fucking mess of everything in the future. Whe I saw Mark Palios interviewed last week, he was basically suggesting that most of those guys are just clueless fuckers who don't even have any concept of how an organisation like FIFA should work or about the legality of anything they are doing. They are just basically Blatter's stooges.

[Ted Hughes]

Oops.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... of-secrets

[iwasthere2012]

Oops.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... of-secrets

Yep!. Heard it on the radio this morning. Strap yourselves in boys, this summer is going to be a roller-coaster. I wonder how many pigs will start squealing when this thing gets started. I'd say there is a lot of people in organisations other than FIFA, that are sweating a bit.
Who knows where this will end.

[Nigels Tackle]

Oops.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... of-secrets

Yep!. Heard it on the radio this morning. Strap yourselves in boys, this summer is going to be a roller-coaster. I wonder how many pigs will start squealing when this thing gets started. I'd say there is a lot of people in organisations other than FIFA, that are sweating a bit.
Who knows where this will end.

hopefully this fool wil be implicated....

http://en.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/60129.html

[Hazy2]

what would the chances be of Jack Warner hanging himself whilst driving of a cliff as he shoots himself.