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johnny crossan wrote:

Beefymcfc wrote:It's not really about the NT, as you put it, but it's definitely about the fatigue. In order to beat a PL, never mind one of Leicester's status, you have to use the majority of your best players as they run you ragged, so have to control the game. Whereas, playing a team like Bristol allows you to play a second string, somewhat, saving your 1st teams legs for bigger games. Add to that the 2 legged semi in January, why would a club who is fighting for the top spots put out a team that could diminish their whole of season form?

For me, this is the time to say that we will give up the cup in favour of bigger fish. It's not a big deal as we've done it for the last few years in the cup games, when we seem to get big games or unrealistic fixture dates that could hinder us elsewhere.

Two legged semi Beefy? I thought it was a single game at Wembley.

South Stand Balti wrote:I think I might boooo when, if ever, we get a home tie in this or the FA Cup. The draw is a joke. Boooooo!

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:

South Stand Balti wrote:I think I might boooo when, if ever, we get a home tie in this or the FA Cup. The draw is a joke. Boooooo!

How many more years do you think it will be before we get a home draw SSB ??

We should already be ensconced unassailably in the record books, were such matters ever to be recorded.

Justified logic wrote:

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:

South Stand Balti wrote:I think I might boooo when, if ever, we get a home tie in this or the FA Cup. The draw is a joke. Boooooo!

How many more years do you think it will be before we get a home draw SSB ??

We should already be ensconced unassailably in the record books, were such matters ever to be recorded.

Shocking! Two days and counting the hours already.

South Stand Balti wrote:

Justified logic wrote:

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:

South Stand Balti wrote:I think I might boooo when, if ever, we get a home tie in this or the FA Cup. The draw is a joke. Boooooo!

How many more years do you think it will be before we get a home draw SSB ??

We should already be ensconced unassailably in the record books, were such matters ever to be recorded.

Shocking! Two days and counting the hours already.

Well, 12 out of the last 13 domestic cup draws have been away from home. 11 against Prem teams. My main concern is the big 4 being kept apart. From memory I think there were 8 prem teams left in the last 16 of the FA cup last year and they were all kept apart. Stinks

BlueinBosnia wrote:

South Stand Balti wrote:

Justified logic wrote:

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:

South Stand Balti wrote:I think I might boooo when, if ever, we get a home tie in this or the FA Cup. The draw is a joke. Boooooo!

How many more years do you think it will be before we get a home draw SSB ??

We should already be ensconced unassailably in the record books, were such matters ever to be recorded.

Shocking! Two days and counting the hours already.

Well, 12 out of the last 13 domestic cup draws have been away from home. 11 against Prem teams. My main concern is the big 4 being kept apart. From memory I think there were 8 prem teams left in the last 16 of the FA cup last year and they were all kept apart. Stinks

Just looking at this worry about our away draws now. From 2010-11 to 2013-14, we were drawn at home for 15 of our 17 FA Cup games, including a run of 8 in a row from the 2010-11 3rd round to the 2012-13 3rd round. Still got to check the LC, but it seems as if, in spite of the recent run of away draws, we've had more home than away since the takeover.

BlueinBosnia wrote:

South Stand Balti wrote:

Justified logic wrote:

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:

South Stand Balti wrote:I think I might boooo when, if ever, we get a home tie in this or the FA Cup. The draw is a joke. Boooooo!

How many more years do you think it will be before we get a home draw SSB ??

We should already be ensconced unassailably in the record books, were such matters ever to be recorded.

Shocking! Two days and counting the hours already.

Well, 12 out of the last 13 domestic cup draws have been away from home. 11 against Prem teams. My main concern is the big 4 being kept apart. From memory I think there were 8 prem teams left in the last 16 of the FA cup last year and they were all kept apart. Stinks

Just looking at this worry about our away draws now. From 2010-11 to 2013-14, we were drawn at home for 15 of our 17 FA Cup games, including a run of 8 in a row from the 2010-11 3rd round to the 2012-13 3rd round. Still got to check the LC, but it seems as if, in spite of the recent run of away draws, we've had more home than away since the takeover.

BlueinBosnia wrote:

South Stand Balti wrote:

Justified logic wrote:

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:

South Stand Balti wrote:I think I might boooo when, if ever, we get a home tie in this or the FA Cup. The draw is a joke. Boooooo!

How many more years do you think it will be before we get a home draw SSB ??

We should already be ensconced unassailably in the record books, were such matters ever to be recorded.

Shocking! Two days and counting the hours already.

Well, 12 out of the last 13 domestic cup draws have been away from home. 11 against Prem teams. My main concern is the big 4 being kept apart. From memory I think there were 8 prem teams left in the last 16 of the FA cup last year and they were all kept apart. Stinks

Just looking at this worry about our away draws now. From 2010-11 to 2013-14, we were drawn at home for 15 of our 17 FA Cup games, including a run of 8 in a row from the 2010-11 3rd round to the 2012-13 3rd round. Still got to check the LC, but it seems as if, in spite of the recent run of away draws, we've had more home than away since the takeover.

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:It's a fix, there's no doubt in my mind.

4 biggest clubs all left avoid each other

Two of them get home draws

The third gets an away against the lowest ranked team left in the comp ( a home draw for the rags would've been too obvious)

And the fourth is drawn away against the PL champions from two years back. I figure they don't mind who goes through in our tie as Leicester's profile is so high in Asia, owing to their league win, that will make up for us not being in the semis with the other three high profile clubs

Justified logic wrote:What strikes me about that listing of teams we've played in the LC is how few are outside the PL and the top half of the Championship. Only Scunthorpe, who finished in the lower reaches of the Championship that season, stands out as outside that profile.

BlueinBosnia wrote:

Justified logic wrote:What strikes me about that listing of teams we've played in the LC is how few are outside the PL and the top half of the Championship. Only Scunthorpe, who finished in the lower reaches of the Championship that season, stands out as outside that profile.

If we're entering in the Third Round, though, the number of teams from the lower levels of the league is minimal (normally only 2 or 3 from League One and League Two combined), so it's actually highly unlikely that we'll be drawn against one of them - about half as likely as being drawn against another of the 'Big 6'. When we played against Sheffield Wednesday, I'm sure they were at the bottom (or very close to it) of the Championship (admittedly, it was only about 7 or 8 games into the season, though).

We faced Brighton (and lost) when they were in League One and we entered the Second Round in 2008-09. They finished 16th in League One that year.

BlueinBosnia wrote:

BlueinBosnia wrote:

Justified logic wrote:What strikes me about that listing of teams we've played in the LC is how few are outside the PL and the top half of the Championship. Only Scunthorpe, who finished in the lower reaches of the Championship that season, stands out as outside that profile.

If we're entering in the Third Round, though, the number of teams from the lower levels of the league is minimal (normally only 2 or 3 from League One and League Two combined), so it's actually highly unlikely that we'll be drawn against one of them - about half as likely as being drawn against another of the 'Big 6'. When we played against Sheffield Wednesday, I'm sure they were at the bottom (or very close to it) of the Championship (admittedly, it was only about 7 or 8 games into the season, though).

We faced Brighton (and lost) when they were in League One and we entered the Second Round in 2008-09. They finished 16th in League One that year.

Justified logic wrote:

BlueinBosnia wrote:

BlueinBosnia wrote:

Justified logic wrote:What strikes me about that listing of teams we've played in the LC is how few are outside the PL and the top half of the Championship. Only Scunthorpe, who finished in the lower reaches of the Championship that season, stands out as outside that profile.

If we're entering in the Third Round, though, the number of teams from the lower levels of the league is minimal (normally only 2 or 3 from League One and League Two combined), so it's actually highly unlikely that we'll be drawn against one of them - about half as likely as being drawn against another of the 'Big 6'. When we played against Sheffield Wednesday, I'm sure they were at the bottom (or very close to it) of the Championship (admittedly, it was only about 7 or 8 games into the season, though).

We faced Brighton (and lost) when they were in League One and we entered the Second Round in 2008-09. They finished 16th in League One that year.

Fair points.

A listing for the FA Cup would be interesting but I can't do that in the same style until the 3rd round draw has taken place.

There's a 30% chance of us being drawn against another Prem team in the 3rd round each year.
This year, there was a 39% chance of us being drawn against a Prem team in the 4th round (didn't happen).
This year, there was a 47% chance of us being drawn against a Prem team in the 5th round.
This year, there was a 71% chance of us being drawn against a Prem team in the 6th round.

Overall, there was a 4% chance of us being drawn against a Prem team in each round. That didn't happen. Even if it did, it wouldn't be particularly unusual.

There was also a 0.3% chance of us being drawn away to a Prem team in each round. That's also not particularly unbelievable odds, even if it had have happened.

As for being drawn away 7 times in a row - it's also not overly unlikely. There are (about to be) 5 of us in my household, each with a 2 in their day of birth (2nd, 23rd, 28th, etc.). That's twice as unlikely to happen as us being drawn away 7 times in a row, even though it's not an unbelievable occurrence in and of itself.

City64 wrote:I'm on holiday in sunny Cyprus and general opinion here is the draw was bent as fuck . How the fuck can you do a quarter final draw via fucking twitter ???

Anyways 78 temp here , beer bang on .......... sorry lads !