Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

[ayrshireblue]

It's the same mistakes from Pep that keep happening. Messing about with the team too much, I know we played the same 11 in 3 PL games in a row recently but that was the only time we've shown a semblance of form this season. His insistence on playing some players, Savinho etc, when everyone can see he's useless. Poor and late substitutions as if he's going to prove that his decision is right and he knows best despite the evidence suggesting otherwise. Grateful for everything he has done for the club but to be honest I wouldn't be bothered if he left today.

[sniffer]

Corrected out right I meant same as Sav played last night. Mahrez ball control and goal contribution was great, we now have Sav.

[Mase]

Corrected out right I meant same as Sav played last night. Mahrez ball control and goal contribution was great, we now have Sav.

Don't remind us!

[Nigels Tackle]

Corrected out right I meant same as Sav played last night. Mahrez ball control and goal contribution was great, we now have Sav.

i'd rather have rick holden than that absolute spastic. the guy tackled himself last night!

[Wonderwall]

Corrected out right I meant same as Sav played last night. Mahrez ball control and goal contribution was great, we now have Sav.

i'd rather have rick holden than that absolute spastic. the guy tackled himself last night!

I draw the line at Rick Holden. My god I have never seen a worse player at trying to take someone on. But I got your point and agree with the sentiment

[sheblue]

Corrected out right I meant same as Sav played last night. Mahrez ball control and goal contribution was great, we now have Sav.

i'd rather have rick holden than that absolute spastic. the guytackled himselflast night!

I know i shouldn't have but i couldn't stop laughing at that.

[Blue In Bolton]

Corrected out right I meant same as Sav played last night. Mahrez ball control and goal contribution was great, we now have Sav.

i'd rather have rick holden than that absolute spastic. the guytackled himselflast night!

I know i shouldn't have but i couldn't stop laughing at that.

Saw him described as the "Brazilian Neil Heaney" on X.

[Sparklehorse]

Cherki ?? Seen nothing and I mean nothing from him yet. Savinho is absolute garbage. Bobb is playing with no confidence and there was no bite tonight at all. No pace, no skill, no desire and fair play Leverkusen played exactly like every team that has beaten us for the last two years, sat back defended a very lethargic build up and caught us on the break, exactly the same recipe and the same outcome as always in what was a very important game. There were some small glimmers of hope in some of the games that Pep was changing but no, tonight is entirely on him for his selections, his tactics and his ability inspire a performance from his players. The most worrying thing is Haaland always seems to go through a few games every season where he can’t hit a barn door with a banjo and I think he’s in one now. So many players had a real chance to perform and impress and nobody took it. Very, very disappointing and now with an away tie in Madrid we will be struggling to make the top eight.

Very very harsh on cherki. Hes been class a couple of games. Our only spark outside of foden and doku

His work rate is decent, and apparently he’s this wonderful gifted player. The sum total is a deflected goal in a game already won against a struggling Swansea side. I hope we see it but it ain’t happened yet, not from what I’ve seen anyway and I’ve watched every minute of every game.

4 goals in 12 matches, only 4 starts. Remind me again, how long did it take David Silva to settle down when he joined us? People wrote him off and deemed him too soft for premier league. People wanted Roderi shafted after one season. I'd say Chekri has done better than these two thus far.

I'm not writing him off, I'm just saying I haven't seen much from him yet considering the hype that has been surrounding him. He's been ok and sure it'll take time for him to gel. I'm hopeful that he will. Savinho on the other hand is utter dogsshit and he, for some strange reason is a regular starter. There is a great player in Bobb, I'm absolutely convinced but he's playing in too reserved a manner, he's just trying to not make mistakes and not creating enough and taking people on. When he does, he's very good at it. So the jury is still out on him, but he needs to start doing what we all know he can, last night was the perfect opportunity for him to shine and he didn't take it for whatever reason....too much backwards passing. I think selling him at this stage will be a huge mistake, we'll see.

[PeterParker]

Cherki ?? Seen nothing and I mean nothing from him yet. Savinho is absolute garbage. Bobb is playing with no confidence and there was no bite tonight at all. No pace, no skill, no desire and fair play Leverkusen played exactly like every team that has beaten us for the last two years, sat back defended a very lethargic build up and caught us on the break, exactly the same recipe and the same outcome as always in what was a very important game. There were some small glimmers of hope in some of the games that Pep was changing but no, tonight is entirely on him for his selections, his tactics and his ability inspire a performance from his players. The most worrying thing is Haaland always seems to go through a few games every season where he can’t hit a barn door with a banjo and I think he’s in one now. So many players had a real chance to perform and impress and nobody took it. Very, very disappointing and now with an away tie in Madrid we will be struggling to make the top eight.

Very very harsh on cherki. Hes been class a couple of games. Our only spark outside of foden and doku

His work rate is decent, and apparently he’s this wonderful gifted player. The sum total is a deflected goal in a game already won against a struggling Swansea side. I hope we see it but it ain’t happened yet, not from what I’ve seen anyway and I’ve watched every minute of every game.

4 goals in 12 matches, only 4 starts. Remind me again, how long did it take David Silva to settle down when he joined us? People wrote him off and deemed him too soft for premier league. People wanted Roderi shafted after one season. I'd say Chekri has done better than these two thus far.

There is a great player in Bobb, I'm absolutely convinced but he's playing in too reserved a manner, he's just trying to not make mistakes and not creating enough and taking people on. When he does, he's very good at it. So the jury is still out on him, but he needs to start doing what we all know he can, last night was the perfect opportunity for him to shine and he didn't take it for whatever reason....too much backwards passing. I think selling him at this stage will be a huge mistake, we'll see.

Injuries or not, his stats are terrible for a player at his age, goals and assists. https://www.transfermarkt.com/oscar-bob ... ler/661207
There is a talent there, but maybe not for England and most of all, for a team like ours.

[Im_Spartacus]

Pep's very strong around protecting his players from criticism, so my ears pricked up when he said that the players who came in were good enough, but playing with fear.

Now I don't think for a second he is so blind as to not realise that he created that culture and mentality, that players can't make a mistake, they must retain posession rather than give it a go - so to criticise the players is an interesting thing for him to do, as I can't imagine him going public on something like that if he is not telling them the same in training and tactically.

Wheras he would blackball players in the past for having a go but losing the ball, are we going to start seeing the opposite now?

His words suggested those players had their chance and missed it. Will be interesting to see what happens at weekend now.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Pep's very strong around protecting his players from criticism, so my ears pricked up when he said that the players who came in were good enough, but playing with fear.

Now I don't think for a second he is so blind as to not realise that he created that culture and mentality, that players can't make a mistake, they must retain posession rather than give it a go - so to criticise the players is an interesting thing for him to do, as I can't imagine him going public on something like that if he is not telling them the same in training and tactically.

Wheras he would blackball players in the past for having a go but losing the ball, are we going to start seeing the opposite now?

His words suggested those players had their chance and missed it. Will be interesting to see what happens at weekend now.

Pep throwing the squad under the bus like this is rare and pretty fuckign telling. He’s basically admitted his obsessive control and possession way has fucked them up - they’re scared to take any risk because they know one loose pass and they’re in the shit. Pep coming out and saying it publicly feels like he’s starting to crack.

[Mase]

His words suggested those players had their chance and missed it. Will be interesting to see what happens at weekend now.

On the Back to the Premiership end of season DVD I remember Keegan reviewing one of the earlier games that season where we'd lost and he said something along the lines of, "I wanted to give everyone a chance, but after that game I realised some didn't deserve it."

I think back in the day it used to be - you got your chance if the player in front of you is injured or out of form. Now, these players know it doesn't matter how they play, they'll get a chance next game. It doesn't give them the hunger to play well and hold onto the shirt when they do get the opportunity.

[Im_Spartacus]

Pep's very strong around protecting his players from criticism, so my ears pricked up when he said that the players who came in were good enough, but playing with fear.

Now I don't think for a second he is so blind as to not realise that he created that culture and mentality, that players can't make a mistake, they must retain posession rather than give it a go - so to criticise the players is an interesting thing for him to do, as I can't imagine him going public on something like that if he is not telling them the same in training and tactically.

Wheras he would blackball players in the past for having a go but losing the ball, are we going to start seeing the opposite now?

His words suggested those players had their chance and missed it. Will be interesting to see what happens at weekend now.

Pep throwing the squad under the bus like this is rare and pretty fuckign telling. He’s basically admitted his obsessive control and possession way has fucked them up - they’re scared to take any risk because they know one loose pass and they’re in the shit. Pep coming out and saying it publicly feels like he’s starting to crack.

Could be, though I wonder if the frustration stems from his attempt to change it - because there have definitely been signs of change, but the players keep reverting to type as soon as they face some difficulty. Is there a problem that he did his job a little too well drilling a certain methodology, and the mentality is so embedded with some players it will be tough if not impossible to shake out of them.

Funny how much we could do with Grealish right now innit!

[Harry Dowd scored]

What I do not understand is why play a weak team given next game is Madrid away. Surely secure qualification before fucking about with the team, when Madrid hand our arses to us we will be worrying whether we qualify or not. You couldn't wish for a better fuck up if you tried. Pep's fucked up royally once again. Beginning to be a very bad habit.

[sheblue]

The encouraging thing I take from it is that he admitted it was his fault after the game. He has seen he made a mess of it, hopefully he has learned from it.

[Indianablue]

Mentally i think Pep is very fragile and is definitely showing signs that he is struggling to handle the job and the pressure that goes with it. Put him in a losing position or a tough game and he loses it.
There are signs that he is trying to change the way we play, speed things up, simplify our interchanges etc but then he overthinks it and fucks up team selection. Did any of his many assistants and backroom staff not have the bottle to tell him he was wrong?
We are now 9th in the CL league, a way to go but hardly impressing.

[carl_feedthegoat]

The encouraging thing I take from it is that he admitted it was his fault after the game. He has seen he made a mess of it, hopefully he has learned from it.

Making 10 changes for that game was fuckign insane - no excuses for doing it and just because pep admitted to the fuckign OBVIOUS it in no way gets him off the hook.

Hes on very thin ice....yet again.

[Wonderwall]

Mentally i think Pep is very fragile and is definitely showing signs that he is struggling to handle the job and the pressure that goes with it. Put him in a losing position or a tough game and he loses it.
There are signs that he is trying to change the way we play, speed things up, simplify our interchanges etc but then he overthinks it and fucks up team selection. Did any of his many assistants and backroom staff not have the bottle to tell him he was wrong?
We are now 9th in the CL league, a way to go but hardly impressing.

Pep needs a Messi/Iniesta, Lahm/Thiago, Silva/De Bruyne to weave his magic. He thought Foden would carry that baton, but Phil seems fragile and not up to the task every week. Don't get me wrong, Foden is a generational talent but needs to get back to his form of two years ago and it's been hit and miss for 18 months. Phil also needs help. Phil's form issues and Rodri's injury are not coincidental.

[Outcast]

Cherki ?? Seen nothing and I mean nothing from him yet. Savinho is absolute garbage. Bobb is playing with no confidence and there was no bite tonight at all. No pace, no skill, no desire and fair play Leverkusen played exactly like every team that has beaten us for the last two years, sat back defended a very lethargic build up and caught us on the break, exactly the same recipe and the same outcome as always in what was a very important game. There were some small glimmers of hope in some of the games that Pep was changing but no, tonight is entirely on him for his selections, his tactics and his ability inspire a performance from his players. The most worrying thing is Haaland always seems to go through a few games every season where he can’t hit a barn door with a banjo and I think he’s in one now. So many players had a real chance to perform and impress and nobody took it. Very, very disappointing and now with an away tie in Madrid we will be struggling to make the top eight.

Very very harsh on cherki. Hes been class a couple of games. Our only spark outside of foden and doku

His work rate is decent, and apparently he’s this wonderful gifted player. The sum total is a deflected goal in a game already won against a struggling Swansea side. I hope we see it but it ain’t happened yet, not from what I’ve seen anyway and I’ve watched every minute of every game.

4 goals in 12 matches, only 4 starts. Remind me again, how long did it take David Silva to settle down when he joined us? People wrote him off and deemed him too soft for premier league. People wanted Roderi shafted after one season. I'd say Chekri has done better than these two thus far.

There is a great player in Bobb, I'm absolutely convinced but he's playing in too reserved a manner, he's just trying to not make mistakes and not creating enough and taking people on. When he does, he's very good at it. So the jury is still out on him, but he needs to start doing what we all know he can, last night was the perfect opportunity for him to shine and he didn't take it for whatever reason....too much backwards passing. I think selling him at this stage will be a huge mistake, we'll see.[/quote]

Injuries or not, his stats are terrible for a player at his age, goals and assists. https://www.transfermarkt.com/oscar-bob ... ler/661207
There is a talent there, but maybe not for England and most of all, for a team like ours.[/quote]

Ermm I was referring to Chekri.

[Im_Spartacus]

Mentally i think Pep is very fragile and is definitely showing signs that he is struggling to handle the job and the pressure that goes with it. Put him in a losing position or a tough game and he loses it.
There are signs that he is trying to change the way we play, speed things up, simplify our interchanges etc but then he overthinks it and fucks up team selection. Did any of his many assistants and backroom staff not have the bottle to tell him he was wrong?
We are now 9th in the CL league, a way to go but hardly impressing.

Pep needs a Messi/Iniesta, Lahm/Thiago, Silva/De Bruyne to weave his magic. He thought Foden would carry that baton, but Phil seems fragile and not up to the task every week. Don't get me wrong, Foden is a generational talent but needs to get back to his form of two years ago and it's been hit and miss for 18 months. Phil also needs help. Phil's form issues and Rodri's injury are not coincidental.

I think you're right there - the team needs someone to rally round and genuine leaderhsip on the pitch - and by that I don't mean the captain, I mean the one who digs deep when the chips are down......Kev was that guy for years, vinny and to a degree yaya before that. Haaland has the ability as we've seen now when he gets more involved, but it needs that guy in the middle, dictating play. I wonder if this isn't actually the biggest we've had from Rodri's absence.

Interesting we pulled out of the Wirtz deal, as I wonder if that was seen in him but the cost vs risk ratio became too great (and a bloody good call it was not to continue in light of his effors at Liverpool)