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Mr Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:37 pm
by john@staustell
Time for another Dunnie debate I think, on the new site. Some are saying that he had a good game on Saturday and therefore we don't need Lescott or Upson.

The alternative view is that there were 2 highly likely pens against him that weren't given, and that he nearly demolished his own keeper first half with some undistinguished defending.

Personally I think we will find it difficult to reach the summits whilst Dickie is a first choice, but as cover he will be ideal, and we have no reason to doubt he would be professional enough to deal with that.

I really think failure to bring in another solid, quality CB will affect our points total this year.

Re: Mr Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:43 pm
by Niall Quinns Discopants
I think I agree with you.

Re: Mr Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:44 pm
by Fish111
imho Dunnie is a very average defender at best whose form is slowly but surely deserting him more each year. We definately need to get some new blood in to play alongside Toure. Dunne scared me a few tims on Saturday, it's his unpredictability that is so un-reassuring. I love him to bits for his undying loyalty but everything has a shelf life.

Re: Mr Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:26 pm
by Steve
He did just captain us to a 2-0 win away at Blackburn, and helped us keep a clean sheet.

Is he the only player that hasn't really received any credit for that?

Re: Mr Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:28 pm
by saulman
Agree with the opening post. Dunnie should stick around and accept that if we buy a player better than him, then he will be benched.
We should buy a player that's better than him because he's a weakness that teams will be looking to exploit this season.

I do hope he's still at City for his testamonial though.

Steve wrote:He did just captain us to a 2-0 win away at Blackburn, and helped us keep a clean sheet.

Is he the only player that hasn't really received any credit for that?


Robby didn't get any credit but I'm sure he didn't actually deserve any. He was pretty annonymous, IMO.

Re: Mr Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:30 pm
by Slim
saulman wrote:Agree with the opening post. Dunnie should stick around and accept that if we buy a player better than him, then he will be benched.
We should buy a player that's better than him because he's a weakness that teams will be looking to exploit this season.

I do hope he's still at City for his testamonial though.

Steve wrote:He did just captain us to a 2-0 win away at Blackburn, and helped us keep a clean sheet.

Is he the only player that hasn't really received any credit for that?


Robby didn't get any credit but I'm sure he didn't actually deserve any. He was pretty annonymous, IMO.


He created the space for Adebayor to score the first goal.

Re: Mr Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:34 pm
by mr_nool
Slim wrote:
saulman wrote:Agree with the opening post. Dunnie should stick around and accept that if we buy a player better than him, then he will be benched.
We should buy a player that's better than him because he's a weakness that teams will be looking to exploit this season.

I do hope he's still at City for his testamonial though.

Steve wrote:He did just captain us to a 2-0 win away at Blackburn, and helped us keep a clean sheet.

Is he the only player that hasn't really received any credit for that?


Robby didn't get any credit but I'm sure he didn't actually deserve any. He was pretty annonymous, IMO.


He created the space for Adebayor to score the first goal.


I know how Robbie must feel. I constantly creat space for others to write great posts, and never get any credit for it...

Re: Mr Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:41 pm
by Tokyo Blue
Slim wrote:
saulman wrote:Agree with the opening post. Dunnie should stick around and accept that if we buy a player better than him, then he will be benched.
We should buy a player that's better than him because he's a weakness that teams will be looking to exploit this season.

I do hope he's still at City for his testamonial though.

Steve wrote:He did just captain us to a 2-0 win away at Blackburn, and helped us keep a clean sheet.

Is he the only player that hasn't really received any credit for that?


Robby didn't get any credit but I'm sure he didn't actually deserve any. He was pretty annonymous, IMO.


He created the space for Adebayor to score the first goal.

He did indeed. He also had our only shots on target other than the goals. The first of those shots he pretty much made from nothing. The second would have gone in but for a deceptively good save by an unsighted keeper.

The "penalty" for hand-ball would have been harsh but some refs would have. I am sure some refs will give far less obvious penalties against certain clubs (but not others) during the season. But I feel Dunnie did very little wrong for that incident. In the minuscule fraction of a second he got as the ball bulleted directly towards him. He had a decent game, especially in the second half.

Re: Mr Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:47 pm
by Slim
I think people are looking for a boo boy and with everyone playing reasonably well for a first competitive runout, they are firing blindly to see what sticks. Dunne played as well as he is expected to, he isn't great but the idea that "he is shite, but as backup he is okay" Well, if he starts regular or we need a player to fill in he will play the same 90 minutes, I'd rather have someone who can do the job properly in either case. So either is he good enough or he isn't, people seem to want him to stick around but still have the option of bitching about him. Hypocrites.

Re: Mr Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:52 pm
by Blue in the face
Leave him alone you shower of tossers! Did he not do better than Lescott?

Re: Mr Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:18 pm
by Burt
Blue in the face wrote:Leave him alone you shower of tossers! Did he not do better than Lescott?



Yes he did but it's probably not a fair comparison given (see what I did there?) the circumstances evolving around Lescott mate.

Re: Mr Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:21 pm
by Vhero
john@staustell wrote:Time for another Dunnie debate I think, on the new site. Some are saying that he had a good game on Saturday and therefore we don't need Lescott or Upson.

The alternative view is that there were 2 highly likely pens against him that weren't given, and that he nearly demolished his own keeper first half with some undistinguished defending.

Personally I think we will find it difficult to reach the summits whilst Dickie is a first choice, but as cover he will be ideal, and we have no reason to doubt he would be professional enough to deal with that.

I really think failure to bring in another solid, quality CB will affect our points total this year.

OMG He had one good game and you think we should have a massive turnaround and keep him for the entire season as our no.1 CB and captain? I can't believe what I'm reading! Some people on here need to think twice before they write stuff. Hes not gonna have a bad game every week is he?? (not aimed at you John) We don't want to replace him because he's fucking terrible every week. He just can't keep up that level of play enough that's the problem. He's great backup and wouldn't mind seeing him here another season as backup but first team for an entire season? Surely not?

Re: Mr Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:25 pm
by bobadji
Vhero wrote:
john@staustell wrote:Time for another Dunnie debate I think, on the new site. Some are saying that he had a good game on Saturday and therefore we don't need Lescott or Upson.

The alternative view is that there were 2 highly likely pens against him that weren't given, and that he nearly demolished his own keeper first half with some undistinguished defending.

Personally I think we will find it difficult to reach the summits whilst Dickie is a first choice, but as cover he will be ideal, and we have no reason to doubt he would be professional enough to deal with that.

I really think failure to bring in another solid, quality CB will affect our points total this year.

OMG He had one good game and you think we should have a massive turnaround and keep him for the entire season as our no.1 CB and captain? I can't believe what I'm reading! Some people on here need to think twice before they write stuff. Hes not gonna have a bad game every week is he?? (not aimed at you John) We don't want to replace him because he's fucking terrible every week. He just can't keep up that level of play enough that's the problem. He's great backup and wouldn't mind seeing him here another season as backup but first team for an entire season? Surely not?


if you'd read it properly, you'd have seen that he thought that it'll be difficult to reach the top with Dunne as first choice. Some people on here need to think twice before they write stuff.

;)

Re: Mr Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:34 pm
by Vhero
bobadji wrote:
Vhero wrote:
john@staustell wrote:Time for another Dunnie debate I think, on the new site. Some are saying that he had a good game on Saturday and therefore we don't need Lescott or Upson.

The alternative view is that there were 2 highly likely pens against him that weren't given, and that he nearly demolished his own keeper first half with some undistinguished defending.

Personally I think we will find it difficult to reach the summits whilst Dickie is a first choice, but as cover he will be ideal, and we have no reason to doubt he would be professional enough to deal with that.

I really think failure to bring in another solid, quality CB will affect our points total this year.

OMG He had one good game and you think we should have a massive turnaround and keep him for the entire season as our no.1 CB and captain? I can't believe what I'm reading! Some people on here need to think twice before they write stuff. Hes not gonna have a bad game every week is he?? (not aimed at you John) We don't want to replace him because he's fucking terrible every week. He just can't keep up that level of play enough that's the problem. He's great backup and wouldn't mind seeing him here another season as backup but first team for an entire season? Surely not?


if you'd read it properly, you'd have seen that he thought that it'll be difficult to reach the top with Dunne as first choice. Some people on here need to think twice before they write stuff.

;)

Thats what I mean I was just putting in my own words mate and agreeing.

Re: Mr Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:23 pm
by adebayor25
he played poorly against celtic, but i thought he played good against bburn and showed why he is a city legend.

Re: Mr Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:00 pm
by 13021J
Dunne is only good enough as a backup, but Kompany should be first choice alongside Toure with Onuoha to challenge

Re: Mr Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:13 pm
by Dameerto
john@staustell wrote:Time for another Dunnie debate I think, on the new site. Some are saying that he had a good game on Saturday and therefore we don't need Lescott or Upson.

The alternative view is that there were 2 highly likely pens against him that weren't given, and that he nearly demolished his own keeper first half with some undistinguished defending.

Personally I think we will find it difficult to reach the summits whilst Dickie is a first choice, but as cover he will be ideal, and we have no reason to doubt he would be professional enough to deal with that.

I really think failure to bring in another solid, quality CB will affect our points total this year.


Given was at fault for that incident - Dunne was shepherding the ball and Given took too long coming for it. At the very least it was a breakdown in communication, they should have been talking to each other. (Can't pin it on Dunne though, not on the evidence of what I saw myself)

I forgot to add, he allso blocked a sure-fire certain goal in the first half inside the six-yard box - Given wouldn't have had time to react from that range. I haven't seen him getting any credit for it either. I suppose the haters would say he was just doing his job. I'm not his biggest fan but he had a decent game on Saturday and was one of the reasons we kept a clean sheet.

Re: Mr Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:07 pm
by Ted Hughes
I have to say, I find all this a bit strange. I've never rated Dunne, even when he was player of the year & blame him for most of our cup exits in living memory, yet now everyone else seems to have gone way past me & is giving him pelters even when he's doing alright!

His performance v Blackburn was just the same as his best performances from a few years back; great blocks & interceptions mixed with moments of total incompetence. Then he got cheered for it & people blamed someone else when he fell over or scored an own goal or failed to mark Lescott for a free header, now people are building gallows to hang him for exactly the same kind of thing.

Most PL CB's are on the whole crap, Dunne ranges between crap & excellent, loves the club & could be great back up to a new pairing. Can't we just give him a chance to see how he goes? We're obviously trying to sign others so it's not as if the management don't know we need someone else. Let's give him some support & he may actually grow with the club & do a good job.

Re: Mr Dunne

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:21 am
by Kladze
saulman wrote:Agree with the opening post. Dunnie should stick around and accept that if we buy a player better than him, then he will be benched.
We should buy a player that's better than him because he's a weakness that teams will be looking to exploit this season.

I do hope he's still at City for his testamonial though.



If Dunnie were to read remarks like this I wonder just how condescending and patronising he'd find them.

Re: Mr Dunne

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:56 pm
by Bingo Lewis
Kladze wrote:
saulman wrote:Agree with the opening post. Dunnie should stick around and accept that if we buy a player better than him, then he will be benched.
We should buy a player that's better than him because he's a weakness that teams will be looking to exploit this season.

I do hope he's still at City for his testamonial though.



If Dunnie were to read remarks like this I wonder just how condescending and patronising he'd find them.

why would he?
i hope he gets a testimonial, its an honour in my opinion. he deserves one.