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IanBishopsHaircut wrote:Ah fair enough...however the mass hysteria surrounding Dunne has mystified me...the first half of the season i'll be the first to admit he was piss poor. However...after his enforced break he came back strong. The guy is still relatively youngish and if O'Neil is sniffing round him he cannot be discounted as a poor player...I just get the feeling that if we get rid he will come back to haunt us

ant london wrote:

IanBishopsHaircut wrote:Ah fair enough...however the mass hysteria surrounding Dunne has mystified me...the first half of the season i'll be the first to admit he was piss poor. However...after his enforced break he came back strong. The guy is still relatively youngish and if O'Neil is sniffing round him he cannot be discounted as a poor player...I just get the feeling that if we get rid he will come back to haunt us

Honestly, you know what mate...I hope he does just that.

I want him to go somewhere and be valued as a player for the last few years of his top flight career....leaving for a decent fee and being welcomed with open arms at his new club. NOT sticking around here, playing a bit part on the fringe of the first team, his value plummetting as a result and him slipping out of the back door in 6-12 months and most people saying "ah so what, he never plays anyway" and him not being missed.

This way, he goes to AVFC, he plays every week...and when he comes back to Eastlands for the first time. he'll get a massive reception....maybe scores a header (for them) just for extra bonus points.

I honestly do think it's the best thing for him and for City

Ted Hughes wrote:

ant london wrote:

IanBishopsHaircut wrote:Ah fair enough...however the mass hysteria surrounding Dunne has mystified me...the first half of the season i'll be the first to admit he was piss poor. However...after his enforced break he came back strong. The guy is still relatively youngish and if O'Neil is sniffing round him he cannot be discounted as a poor player...I just get the feeling that if we get rid he will come back to haunt us

Honestly, you know what mate...I hope he does just that.

I want him to go somewhere and be valued as a player for the last few years of his top flight career....leaving for a decent fee and being welcomed with open arms at his new club. NOT sticking around here, playing a bit part on the fringe of the first team, his value plummetting as a result and him slipping out of the back door in 6-12 months and most people saying "ah so what, he never plays anyway" and him not being missed.

This way, he goes to AVFC, he plays every week...and when he comes back to Eastlands for the first time. he'll get a massive reception....maybe scores a header (for them) just for extra bonus points.

I honestly do think it's the best thing for him and for City

Surely it would be more fitting if he put one in his own net for old times sake? He could give a little sheepish grin & a sentimental wave to the crowd.

IanBishopsHaircut wrote:

Ted Hughes wrote:

ant london wrote:

IanBishopsHaircut wrote:Ah fair enough...however the mass hysteria surrounding Dunne has mystified me...the first half of the season i'll be the first to admit he was piss poor. However...after his enforced break he came back strong. The guy is still relatively youngish and if O'Neil is sniffing round him he cannot be discounted as a poor player...I just get the feeling that if we get rid he will come back to haunt us

Honestly, you know what mate...I hope he does just that.

I want him to go somewhere and be valued as a player for the last few years of his top flight career....leaving for a decent fee and being welcomed with open arms at his new club. NOT sticking around here, playing a bit part on the fringe of the first team, his value plummetting as a result and him slipping out of the back door in 6-12 months and most people saying "ah so what, he never plays anyway" and him not being missed.

This way, he goes to AVFC, he plays every week...and when he comes back to Eastlands for the first time. he'll get a massive reception....maybe scores a header (for them) just for extra bonus points.

I honestly do think it's the best thing for him and for City

Surely it would be more fitting if he put one in his own net for old times sake? He could give a little sheepish grin & a sentimental wave to the crowd.

The guys scored 6 own goals in his entire career...as a CB i'd say that was average...it was just unlucky that he had a spate of them in a short time frame

john@staustell wrote:Is the OG count more than the 'goals for' count then?

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

john@staustell wrote:Is the OG count more than the 'goals for' count then?

Nope! Richard has scored 7 for us

smurfsdabomb wrote:[quote="Beanieboy"
I was not critcising Dunne in any way, i was criticising your post,....it was a WUM post, why not post the above 1st time? at least here you give an opinion instead of just stating that Dunne is 3 times the player Lescott is, witch is still an utter bullshit statement.
don't agree with all of what you say above, such as the CB's having to score loads, where did i say that? never have, never will, but every goal a CB scores and earns us 1 or 3 points is a bonus and if done regularly has to be taken in to account when comparing 2 players.

How is praising the captain of the team the forum is dedicated to classed as a WUM post?

IanBishopsHaircut wrote:
Ah fair enough...however the mass hysteria surrounding Dunne has mystified me...the first half of the season i'll be the first to admit he was piss poor. However...after his enforced break he came back strong. The guy is still relatively youngish and if O'Neil is sniffing round him he cannot be discounted as a poor player...I just get the feeling that if we get rid he will come back to haunt us

FA cup winners 2006 wrote:

IanBishopsHaircut wrote:
Ah fair enough...however the mass hysteria surrounding Dunne has mystified me...the first half of the season i'll be the first to admit he was piss poor. However...after his enforced break he came back strong. The guy is still relatively youngish and if O'Neil is sniffing round him he cannot be discounted as a poor player...I just get the feeling that if we get rid he will come back to haunt us

spot on,

i for one dont want to see dunne leave, people seem to be jumping on dunnes back every time he does the slightest thing incorrect. people seem to forget micahs stupid leap in the air againist blackburn that was as much of a peno shout as dunnes tackle, toure was at fault for letting keogh in and hitting the crossbar, also toure had a few upfield punts that did'nt find their targets, one which went out over the throw line and wolves broke before micah could get back and it was dunne who cleared up.

dunne never wanted to be captain and he was never the going to be the all shouting bossing type. dunne knows his own capabilities and i think last season he spent too much time trying to educate micah. Dunne also has the respect of the squad, which was clearly seen when he scored againist portsmouth and was swampped by the players (look at micah). Dunne is best when he knows who is around him and is just let get on with his own game.

Dunne is 29/30, his best years are most definately not behind him and i am very happy with the way he has started the season.

FA cup winners 2006 wrote:

IanBishopsHaircut wrote:
Ah fair enough...however the mass hysteria surrounding Dunne has mystified me...the first half of the season i'll be the first to admit he was piss poor. However...after his enforced break he came back strong. The guy is still relatively youngish and if O'Neil is sniffing round him he cannot be discounted as a poor player...I just get the feeling that if we get rid he will come back to haunt us

spot on,

i for one dont want to see dunne leave, people seem to be jumping on dunnes back every time he does the slightest thing incorrect. people seem to forget micahs stupid leap in the air againist blackburn that was as much of a peno shout as dunnes tackle, toure was at fault for letting keogh in and hitting the crossbar, also toure had a few upfield punts that did'nt find their targets, one which went out over the throw line and wolves broke before micah could get back and it was dunne who cleared up.

dunne never wanted to be captain and he was never the going to be the all shouting bossing type. dunne knows his own capabilities and i think last season he spent too much time trying to educate micah. Dunne also has the respect of the squad, which was clearly seen when he scored againist portsmouth and was swampped by the players (look at micah). Dunne is best when he knows who is around him and is just let get on with his own game.

Dunne is 29/30, his best years are most definately not behind him and i am very happy with the way he has started the season.

john@staustell wrote:

smurfsdabomb wrote:I never said anything against stevie actually, I rate him as one of the best young talents in the league if not the best.

But Dunne is honestly a class player, yes he gets OGs and reds but that's probably because of how commited he is to marshaling his area. Jamie Carragher has a similar number of both, would you question his quality? I'll admit Dunne had a poor season by his standards last year but I genuinely believe that was partly down to him playing with a different CB partner every week and partly down to two very dodgy full-backs who are getting caught out of position all the time. Prior to that Dunne was consistently City's best player year after year, including their best season in recent times under Sven where he was arguably the best defender in the league.

But the very fact that you're criticising a centre back for not scoring goals tells me that you don't have a very good grasp on the time, this isn't easy mode FIFA, kid where every player on the team should be scoring in 17-0 wins. Dunne has been every bit as good as Toure this season in holding two clean sheets, a perfect record thus far. To replace him in that form undermines his captaincy and the very value of good form in the team. It's not good management and will seep down to other players on the team, I can't even emphasise how bad from a PR point of view it is to have a club legend, the captain, the centre back with a perfect record this season discarded like that for some guy who doesn't even have to earn his place, he gets into the side on reputation alone.

For me, it's that kind of player management that will prevent City from ever cracking the top 4. It's not all about individual talent, if you lose the team spirit, guidance and what the club really stands for suddenly you're left with a squad of people with no passion for the club or fans, who just want money and fame. I've always defended City and hoped it wouldn't turn into that but for me if Dunne leaves it'd disgust me what this club is turning into.

Smurfy - sorry mate but you're wrong, and I don't want to repeat all those past Dunney threads. Simple fact is he wont take us to CL. For all his bood and thunder tackling, there is the turning like a battleship, the OGs, the horrible slices, terrible attacking corners etc, even in his good years. Everyone else was shite, which is why he was often PoY!

Most importantly, and what a lot are missing, is that he doesn't know what to do with the ball at his feet. To get to the top we need a whole side of people who can play the ball, witness Mr Toure.

Mercifully you are not in charge of our budget to 'take Dunney over Lescott any day of the week'. I am prepared to trust the Everton fans' opinions (who watch him every week) as well as our own managers who are developing a pretty good transfer track record up to now.

I think he and Ned should be our back-ups, although Ned may well break through ahead of Lescott or Toure at some future point.

smurfsdabomb wrote:Wouldn't agree with that, I think his best season was the season before last where he was paired with Micah and was excellent, forget top 10 Dunnie was top 5 easily that year. The only year he wasn't top 10 was last season and that could be due to a number of things but especially

1) Micah going to shit
2) Being paired with a different CB partner every week alternating between Micah, Vinny, Ned mainly.
3) Dodgy full-backs, I can't emphasise enough how much of a better player Corluka is than Micah.