john68 wrote:I find it a touch ironic that someone arguing against violence should use such (typewritten) violence to assert his view. It is sad that a very intresting topic was spoiled by it somewhat. Opposing views are a part of an internet discussion forum but as Dazby says, it is the views we should attack.
ant london wrote:john68 wrote:I find it a touch ironic that someone arguing against violence should use such (typewritten) violence to assert his view. It is sad that a very intresting topic was spoiled by it somewhat. Opposing views are a part of an internet discussion forum but as Dazby says, it is the views we should attack.
Thank you Mr Ghandi
I was arguing against football violence.....not violence per se ;-)
john68 wrote:ant london wrote:john68 wrote:I find it a touch ironic that someone arguing against violence should use such (typewritten) violence to assert his view. It is sad that a very intresting topic was spoiled by it somewhat. Opposing views are a part of an internet discussion forum but as Dazby says, it is the views we should attack.
Thank you Mr Ghandi
I was arguing against football violence.....not violence per se ;-)
Thank you my child of peace,
It was not your view I was commenting on Mate...I agreed with it...It was the way you were getting yourself wound up in doing so.
May the your soul be calmed and your mind overwhelmed with tranquility....and may the wet kipper of life never slap you round the head...Peace Bro....:-)
DoomMerchant wrote:that West Ham kid Stanislas is a stone cold killer, no? i thought he was quite tidy. Where's walmai to weight in on this shit? Second time i've needed him this week...basterd.
cheers
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:DoomMerchant wrote:that West Ham kid Stanislas is a stone cold killer, no? i thought he was quite tidy. Where's walmai to weight in on this shit? Second time i've needed him this week...basterd.
cheers
In hospital or in jail probably.
CitizenYank wrote:Whenever you here the term football violence, the club Millwall always get thrown around.
Do they even care about how their actions damage their club's reputation???
lets all have a disco wrote:I wonder if Danny Dyer was down the front beefing it up proper nawty.
MaseCTID wrote:I think people need to remember what happened at Boro with the police and our fans the other season before saying "ban both teams forever!". Every team has their fair share of fans who instigate violence. You just have to check on YouTube and you can find a fair few videos of our lot fighing or winding other sets of fans up inside the stadium.
Media saying “OMG someone got stabbed” FFS how do they know that the guy wasn’t trying to stab someone themselves and got the knife turned on them? We don’t know the facts. I think this needs to be put in to perspective here. This is one match in how many that has been that violent?? It doesn't happen every week and if it does, it's kept well under wraps by the firms themselves.
Slim wrote:MaseCTID wrote:I think people need to remember what happened at Boro with the police and our fans the other season before saying "ban both teams forever!". Every team has their fair share of fans who instigate violence. You just have to check on YouTube and you can find a fair few videos of our lot fighing or winding other sets of fans up inside the stadium.
Media saying “OMG someone got stabbed” FFS how do they know that the guy wasn’t trying to stab someone themselves and got the knife turned on them? We don’t know the facts. I think this needs to be put in to perspective here. This is one match in how many that has been that violent?? It doesn't happen every week and if it does, it's kept well under wraps by the firms themselves.
I think the fact someone ANYONE got stabbed should be the overriding fact to focus on here.
I live in a country that is mad on so many sports where violence amongst fans is completely unheard of. I don't know what we are doing right or what you lot are doing wrong, but maybe people should be looking towards the root causes of the problem and solving that first. I can tell you when I saw the news report and heard at the end "and they will ban anyone found from football grounds for life" I thought what a fucking joke of a punishment that is.
One guy gets stabbed, EVERYONE involved should be charged along the thinking that inciting as a crowd is paramount to the crime itself. Once enough people get jailed for committing crimes under the banner of 'football' then maybe women and children could go to a Millwall/West Ham match without people thinking to do such being called complete arseholes.
Dazzacity wrote:Patrick wrote:Dazzacity wrote:Patrick wrote:one man army wrote:i'd actually love to read some oldschool stories and legends about english + old firm football hooliganism, classic fights, riots and clashes, famous fans, fans rivalries etc.
i know there's a michael francis book about city hools. any other books/sites?
violence is for complete knobheads who have tried and still try to ruin the game
are you a knobhead?
People like you really do annoy me.. People read all sorts of books on murders/crime etc.That doesnt mean they are then prepared to go out and kill someone.. Iv read the Guvnors book and was one of the most entertainin books I have read.That guy really has lived an eventful life and for that I say fair play to him!!! Dont you find films that involve some sort of violence entertainin, or are you more of a chick flicks type of guy??
Which bit annoys you my view that violence is for knobheads or the question?
One Man Army answered the question pretty well imho
You however admire people who uphold violence and watch violent films then insinuate I watch weepys
Unfortunately I dont have the IQ to respond to such a clever put down so Im going to smash your face in cunt
Pahahahahaha .
The bit that annoyed me was where you felt you had to question whether he was a knobhead or not just because of the books he chooses to read. For this I questioned that, with your theory on things, you must not watch films etc that have scenes of violence, which tbf, is most films these days..
Patrick wrote:Dazzacity wrote:Patrick wrote:Dazzacity wrote:Patrick wrote:
violence is for complete knobheads who have tried and still try to ruin the game
are you a knobhead?
People like you really do annoy me.. People read all sorts of books on murders/crime etc.That doesnt mean they are then prepared to go out and kill someone.. Iv read the Guvnors book and was one of the most entertainin books I have read.That guy really has lived an eventful life and for that I say fair play to him!!! Dont you find films that involve some sort of violence entertainin, or are you more of a chick flicks type of guy??
Which bit annoys you my view that violence is for knobheads or the question?
One Man Army answered the question pretty well imho
You however admire people who uphold violence and watch violent films then insinuate I watch weepys
Unfortunately I dont have the IQ to respond to such a clever put down so Im going to smash your face in cunt
Pahahahahaha .
The bit that annoyed me was where you felt you had to question whether he was a knobhead or not just because of the books he chooses to read. For this I questioned that, with your theory on things, you must not watch films etc that have scenes of violence, which tbf, is most films these days..
OK Dazzacity lets try reason - if you can compare real footy violence stabbing real people and occaisionally popping the odd murder to a scene from - shall we say the godfather? can i perhaps compare football violence to football racism
In my simple girly world both are abhorrent and should not be tolerated
If someone tells me a book that glorifies racism is interesting and a jolly good read I presume they were racist.......
Now tell me truthfully - do you like footy violence? Dont really mind it? Or really believe that it should be treated the same way as the pieces of shit that practice it?
Patrick wrote:i dont think you have to relate everything at all - i think you did it in the first instance when you tried to conclude my taste in films made me a bleeding heart
footy violence is aabhorrent to most civilised people - so a book that aggrandises it and profits a man who spent his life destroying other peoples would be in the same category of book as your two examples to me
Patrick wrote:i dont think you have to relate everything at all - i think you did it in the first instance when you tried to conclude my taste in films made me a bleeding heart
footy violence is aabhorrent to most civilised people - so a book that aggrandises it and profits a man who spent his life destroying other peoples would be in the same category of book as your two examples to me
CitizenYank wrote:Whenever you here the term football violence, the club Millwall always get thrown around.
Do they even care about how their actions damage their club's reputation???
Would like to see a personality profile of the typical Millwall fan.
Ex-Stranglers Roadie, used to run an Off-License, convicted rapist.
I am not so sure about West Ham. A movie was made called Green Street Hooligans,
fell asleep halfway through. It's about Frodo (Elijah Wood) going to visit his cousin in
London and getting the shit kicked out of him.
Apparently, it was right on the money!!
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