thegoatfeeder wrote:I wouldn't worry, Portsmouth and the likes of Brown are not the sorts of game for Robinho, now that we have a squad and aren't as reliant on him as we were last season we can keep him fresh for home games and bigger away games rather than have him having stinkers away at places like Stoke, Bolton and Portsmouth like he did last year.
He'll be back against Arsenal and causing Sagna no end of problems I expect.
Wooders wrote:thegoatfeeder wrote:I wouldn't worry, Portsmouth and the likes of Brown are not the sorts of game for Robinho, now that we have a squad and aren't as reliant on him as we were last season we can keep him fresh for home games and bigger away games rather than have him having stinkers away at places like Stoke, Bolton and Portsmouth like he did last year.
He'll be back against Arsenal and causing Sagna no end of problems I expect.
Absolutely, Hughes got the lineup (almost*) spot on
*Personally I would have tried to get De Jong in there and Ireland pushing higher up the pitch - would have meant dropping someone though, probably teves
How you can say you don't reckon Robinho is a hughes player just because he got dropped for one game a season and a bit after he signed for the club is quite beyond me.
Oh, it was Edge... carry on
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:If Hughes had played Robinho against Portsmouth and he hadnt played well and even worse if we hadnt won, there would have been questions asked about why he didn't leave him out of this one. We can't keep the same team for 38 matches and this seemed an ideal one for him to miss as most on here seem to agree.
You can't please all the people all the time etc etc
edge275 wrote:Wooders wrote:thegoatfeeder wrote:I wouldn't worry, Portsmouth and the likes of Brown are not the sorts of game for Robinho, now that we have a squad and aren't as reliant on him as we were last season we can keep him fresh for home games and bigger away games rather than have him having stinkers away at places like Stoke, Bolton and Portsmouth like he did last year.
He'll be back against Arsenal and causing Sagna no end of problems I expect.
Absolutely, Hughes got the lineup (almost*) spot on
*Personally I would have tried to get De Jong in there and Ireland pushing higher up the pitch - would have meant dropping someone though, probably teves
How you can say you don't reckon Robinho is a hughes player just because he got dropped for one game a season and a bit after he signed for the club is quite beyond me.
Oh, it was Edge... carry on
Beyond you?
Oh, it's Wooders. Carry on.
Wooders wrote:edge275 wrote:Wooders wrote:thegoatfeeder wrote:I wouldn't worry, Portsmouth and the likes of Brown are not the sorts of game for Robinho, now that we have a squad and aren't as reliant on him as we were last season we can keep him fresh for home games and bigger away games rather than have him having stinkers away at places like Stoke, Bolton and Portsmouth like he did last year.
He'll be back against Arsenal and causing Sagna no end of problems I expect.
Absolutely, Hughes got the lineup (almost*) spot on
*Personally I would have tried to get De Jong in there and Ireland pushing higher up the pitch - would have meant dropping someone though, probably teves
How you can say you don't reckon Robinho is a hughes player just because he got dropped for one game a season and a bit after he signed for the club is quite beyond me.
Oh, it was Edge... carry on
Beyond you?
Oh, it's Wooders. Carry on.
come on then mate, enlighten as to why you think he isn't a hughes player despite starting virtually every game he's been fit for and finishing our top scorer last season, I would love to hear it.
edge275 wrote:
I think Robinho was more an owners' buy than anything.
Hughes loves grafters. You can see it in all his purchases. Robinho is not a grafter he's a flair player.
Mr Miyagi wrote:edge275 wrote:
I think Robinho was more an owners' buy than anything.
Hughes loves grafters. You can see it in all his purchases. Robinho is not a grafter he's a flair player.
In a way I agree with what you are saying, although I would not word it as "hughes loves grafters", which is sounds like an implied put-down. What Hughes loves is strikers who will pressurise opposition defenders high up the pitch, and try to win the ball back in a position that is dangerous to the opposition if play breaks down.
Robinho (like Elano and Jo) has grown up in a footballing culture where you concede space to the opposition, put 10 men behind the ball, let the opposition have their attempt at breaking you down, and when they fail it is your turn to try and attack. That is the problem. It is not because they are Brazilian, it is about adjusting to a different system. Jo and Elano couldn't do it. Robinho tries to hassle the opposition full back which is why he will still figure in the future plans. The problem is Robinho is made of straw and gets muscled off the ball when he tries to tackle. But he has shown a willingness to pressurise the opposition defenders.
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Mr Miyagi wrote:
In a way I agree with what you are saying, although I would not word it as "hughes loves grafters", which is sounds like an implied put-down. What Hughes loves is strikers who will pressurise opposition defenders high up the pitch, and try to win the ball back in a position that is dangerous to the opposition if play breaks down.
Robinho (like Elano and Jo) has grown up in a footballing culture where you concede space to the opposition, put 10 men behind the ball, let the opposition have their attempt at breaking you down, and when they fail it is your turn to try and attack. That is the problem. It is not because they are Brazilian, it is about adjusting to a different system. Jo and Elano couldn't do it. Robinho tries to hassle the opposition full back which is why he will still figure in the future plans. The problem is Robinho is made of straw and gets muscled off the ball when he tries to tackle. But he has shown a willingness to pressurise the opposition defenders.
You make it sound like it's all about pressurising opposition but Robinho contributes in many other ways. Being player who can hold the ball and do stuff with it he contributes to defending in his own way. And he also scores goals. Bagloads of them. and gives assists.
11 men running around like headless chicken isn't going to do it.
Mr Miyagi wrote:edge275 wrote:
I think Robinho was more an owners' buy than anything.
Hughes loves grafters. You can see it in all his purchases. Robinho is not a grafter he's a flair player.
In a way I agree with what you are saying, although I would not word it as "hughes loves grafters", which is sounds like an implied put-down. What Hughes loves is strikers who will pressurise opposition defenders high up the pitch, and try to win the ball back in a position that is dangerous to the opposition if play breaks down.
Robinho (like Elano and Jo) has grown up in a footballing culture where you concede space to the opposition, put 10 men behind the ball, let the opposition have their attempt at breaking you down, and when they fail it is your turn to try and attack. That is the problem. It is not because they are Brazilian, it is about adjusting to a different system. Jo and Elano couldn't do it. Robinho tries to hassle the opposition full back which is why he will still figure in the future plans. The problem is Robinho is made of straw and gets muscled off the ball when he tries to tackle. But he has shown a willingness to pressurise the opposition defenders.
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Hughes loves winners and players with a big heart and character.
edge275 wrote:I think Robinho was more an owners' buy than anything.
Hughes loves grafters. You can see it in all his purchases. Robinho is not a grafter he's a flair player.
edge275 wrote:Wooders wrote:edge275 wrote:Wooders wrote:thegoatfeeder wrote:I wouldn't worry, Portsmouth and the likes of Brown are not the sorts of game for Robinho, now that we have a squad and aren't as reliant on him as we were last season we can keep him fresh for home games and bigger away games rather than have him having stinkers away at places like Stoke, Bolton and Portsmouth like he did last year.
He'll be back against Arsenal and causing Sagna no end of problems I expect.
Absolutely, Hughes got the lineup (almost*) spot on
*Personally I would have tried to get De Jong in there and Ireland pushing higher up the pitch - would have meant dropping someone though, probably teves
How you can say you don't reckon Robinho is a hughes player just because he got dropped for one game a season and a bit after he signed for the club is quite beyond me.
Oh, it was Edge... carry on
Beyond you?
Oh, it's Wooders. Carry on.
come on then mate, enlighten as to why you think he isn't a hughes player despite starting virtually every game he's been fit for and finishing our top scorer last season, I would love to hear it.
I think Robinho was more an owners' buy than anything.
Hughes loves grafters. You can see it in all his purchases. Robinho is not a grafter he's a flair player.
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