oh dunney

[CITYSTEVEDON]

CITYSTEVEDON » Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:51 am

i think a few have missed my first post, dunney was slagging city off, he WAS MOANING about NOT getting a TESTIMONIAL. and then slagging cook off. for where we are going, dunne was not good enough, his mistakes every season cost us points, but i DIDNT SLAG him off once. and to hear him moan about his testimonial. i think that he wanted the money for himself, not for a charity. and i was one of the first to send him a good luck at villa, anyway hes gone, im looking forward at city and see where it takes me.

[Dubciteh]

CITYSTEVEDON » Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:51 am

i think a few have missed my first post, dunney was slagging city off, he WAS MOANING about NOT getting a TESTIMONIAL. and then slagging cook off. for where we are going, dunne was not good enough, his mistakes every season cost us points, but i DIDNT SLAG him off once. and to hear him moan about his testimonial. i think that he wanted the money for himself, not for a charity. and i was one of the first to send him a good luck at villa, anyway hes gone, im looking forward at city and see where it takes me.

I dont think he was moaning about his testemonial it was more to the fact of the lies told by cook regarding getting one, thats all....anywya the bit in bold is all that matters now....

[johnny99]

does anyone think that any premier league footballer should have a TESTIMONIAL these days the amount of wages that they are on .
testimonials was originaly for players with more than 10 years service in the days when they did not earn that much.
most top prmiership players are already made for life

[shawzy]

To be fair.After 9yrs service he deserves a testimonial.Ye ok he was 1yr short of having one.But i still think the club should have let him leave in style and let the fans give him a good send off.
Goin back to what Dunne has said about Cooke.Dont you think the buck stops with MH? The manager must have had somethin to do with him being sold.

[Ted Hughes]

Can i ask a basic question?

Did anyone actually fucking read the newspaper where the full interview was done?the Sun took two or three lines out to suit there own agenda.

A summary:

He said he loves the club, loves manchester loves the fans and thinks the fans deserve success cos were great(except some fo the people on this site i think he was referring to ;))
He had no problem with Hughes and liked him i gathered, hughes wanted him to stay and fight for his place but the club had to be seen to bring money in.
His problem was with Cook, not with money or anything else, with Cook for selling him behind his back, if he had of been told to his face he had to leave he wouldnt of minded, he heard loads of rumours cook was trying to sell him, he apporached cook and cook denied this and Dunne specifically told him if he was trying to sell him to tell him to his face, cook didnt do this and sold him anyway, the dispute over the testominal is Dunne said he wanted to stay and fight for his place and have a testomonial, cook said even if he stayed he wouldnt give him a testemonial even though 12months earlier cook had been begging(like most of us here) him to stay even though the club was in the shit-Dunne stayed. And 12months on cook throws his 4 year contract in the bin. Dunne thinks (this is prob his bitterness showing through nothing against oour club or the fans who he praised) that Cook hasnt a clue and thinks hes only intrested in marquee signings, Dunne hasnt liked cook since cook said last year something like "the name richard dunne, our captain, doesnt roll off the tongue in bangkok".

Anyway i cant find the article online in full but i dont see what richard has done wrong?hes getting an awful lot of abuse for nothing, ive read somewhere above hes been shit for 2 years?thats crazy, yes he was average last year but during svens time he was a collosus until the last few months when the team fell apart, this time 2 years ago he was one of the best in the league according to this site, which is it? Maybe dunne isnt good enough to be captain and 1st choice centre back for top 4 but hes certainly good enough to be back up and put pressure on the 2 first choice, he should of been kept in the Hyypia role for us and from what i gather he was prepared to do that but the club didnt want him too, its obvious from how long the villa trasnfer took and his mulling over it that he wanted to stay.

He will be missed in my opinion, 9 years is a long time we might never have a player stay that long again the least he deserves is our respect and certainly not to cause divide amoong fans, Dunne is a city legend thats a fact yes we might not have won anything but most people have been watching him fror 9 years week in week out give us a 100%. Because we havent won anything does that mean that unless a club wins something we cant have a legend??Bollicks, try telling Matt le Tissier that one down at southampton.

Richard Dunne is a Man city legend theres no debate there and i for one wish him all the best. hes been my all time city favorite player and will do for a long time i imagine

It's all about opinions mate. Many people liked Dunney as a player, I didn't. I respected him & liked him as a bloke but as a player I only rated him for one of the seasons when he won the p.o.t.y. when he was admittedly very consistantly good but helped enormously by Distin, who propped him up. I thougt him & Distin then got worse & worse & it was due to a complete lack of any decent performing players at the club & his popularity that he won the p.o.t.y. afterwards; we were shit & he was (debatably) a bit less shit than the others.

He started well under Sven then got worse & worse, was skinned by Championship standard players in the FA Cup, went to pieces v Spurs in the League cup (& imo has done in nearly every cup compo since we signed him) & after a great performance at OT, had a stinker next game v Everton, effectively ending our ambitions & then deteriorated, eventually helping Sven get the sack.

He started the next season by almost getting us knocked out of the UEFA cup, his performances in the league could've got MH sacked & he finished the season by clumsily getting us knocked out of the UEFA cup.

I think his outburst against Cook (who represents US whether people like it or not) is unneccessary & damaging to our club & his attitude to Villa & their fans is a disgrace; describing them as 'softening the blow' is awful disrespect.

I still wish him all the best & will applaud him when he comes back but if he can spout a load of 'truth' about City when he leaves, why shouldn't I have the right to be truthful in my opinion about him?

I appreciate the effort you put into your reply mate sure beats the usual two line argument that some people throw out! I dont agree with most of what you said but thats what opinions are based on, your one of the few around here who can debate a point(i usually agree with most you say for the record).

I think his outburst against cook is personal and not against the fans or the club,he spouts "truth" about him, he fully emphasised how he loved the fans and wished us and the club all the best for the future saying we deserve success, thats the thing that bugs me, hes wished us all the best but people on here still like to slag him off, remember SWP left we said if hed of thanked the fans he would of got our best wishes doesnt seem to be the case here?

I can see what you're saying but in slagging off Cook, he's indirectly slagging off the club & he shouldn't. It could all go in his book when he retires. I think he has still got our best wishes though mate, he certainly has mine & one or two who 'lost it' when they read the piece will probably settle down & still wish him all the best in the long run.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

does anyone think that any premier league footballer should have a TESTIMONIAL these days the amount of wages that they are on .
testimonials was originaly for players with more than 10 years service in the days when they did not earn that much.
most top prmiership players are already made for life

Testimonials are good things when the rich player donates the money to charity and supporters get the chance to show their respect to long serving player. But if they start to pocket the money then it's well out of order. What does testimonial create, depending on circumstances anything between 200k to 1m I'd say. When player earns say 40k/w he would've earned 20m + obviously the bonuses + signing fees for numerous new contract taking his earnings around 30m. That's thirty bleeding MILLION. And since the player is still with the Club he will continue to be earning money. So why would he pocket the 500k testimonial creates? That would simply be greed.

Testimonials these days should be equally about supporters and Club showing respectto player BUT also player giving something back to community that has given so much to him over that ten year period.

[johnny99]

does anyone think that any premier league footballer should have a TESTIMONIAL these days the amount of wages that they are on .
testimonials was originaly for players with more than 10 years service in the days when they did not earn that much.
most top prmiership players are already made for life

Testimonials are good things when the rich player donates the money to charity and supporters get the chance to show their respect to long serving player. But if they start to pocket the money then it's well out of order. What does testimonial create, depending on circumstances anything between 200k to 1m I'd say. When player earns say 40k/w he would've earned 20m + obviously the bonuses + signing fees for numerous new contract taking his earnings around 30m. That's thirty bleeding MILLION. And since the player is still with the Club he will continue to be earning money. So why would he pocket the 500k testimonial creates? That would simply be greed.

Testimonials these days should be equally about supporters and Club showing respectto player BUT also player giving something back to community that has given so much to him over that ten year period.

i agree if it was for charity it would have been a nice send of for him but we will never know .
i think in all honesty he will proberbly regret some of the things he has said i think he was genuinly hurt be being shown the door
but that's life it happens to us all at some stage and most of us don't get a fraction of the money he has.
but i still wish him well at villa

[shawzy]

does anyone think that any premier league footballer should have a TESTIMONIAL these days the amount of wages that they are on .
testimonials was originaly for players with more than 10 years service in the days when they did not earn that much.
most top prmiership players are already made for life

Testimonials are good things when the rich player donates the money to charity and supporters get the chance to show their respect to long serving player. But if they start to pocket the money then it's well out of order. What does testimonial create, depending on circumstances anything between 200k to 1m I'd say. When player earns say 40k/w he would've earned 20m + obviously the bonuses + signing fees for numerous new contract taking his earnings around 30m. That's thirty bleeding MILLION. And since the player is still with the Club he will continue to be earning money. So why would he pocket the 500k testimonial creates? That would simply be greed.

Testimonials these days should be equally about supporters and Club showing respectto player BUT also player giving something back to community that has given so much to him over that ten year period.

Well said..Really good post that m8

[Ted Hughes]

does anyone think that any premier league footballer should have a TESTIMONIAL these days the amount of wages that they are on .
testimonials was originaly for players with more than 10 years service in the days when they did not earn that much.
most top prmiership players are already made for life

Testimonials are good things when the rich player donates the money to charity and supporters get the chance to show their respect to long serving player. But if they start to pocket the money then it's well out of order. What does testimonial create, depending on circumstances anything between 200k to 1m I'd say. When player earns say 40k/w he would've earned 20m + obviously the bonuses + signing fees for numerous new contract taking his earnings around 30m. That's thirty bleeding MILLION. And since the player is still with the Club he will continue to be earning money. So why would he pocket the 500k testimonial creates? That would simply be greed.

Testimonials these days should be equally about supporters and Club showing respectto player BUT also player giving something back to community that has given so much to him over that ten year period.

Tbh I'm glad he's not having one, not because he wouldn't deserve it, he certainly would (provided money goes to charity) but City fans have been notoriously bad at attending testimonials over the years (I believe Swales stopped having them at one point because it was getting ridiculous) & judging by the lack of effort shown for UEFA games, I recon loads who SAY they'd be there wouldn't actually turn up & a half empty ground would be an embarrassment. We didn't even fill Maine Rd v rags for Lakey; the most deserving case ever.

I'd go if they had one btw.

[smurfsdabomb]

Just saw this.

http://www.castrolfootball.com/article/ ... A2044B.php

Dunne ranked the 13th best player in the performance index for the World Cup qualifiers so far.

[irblinx]

Was a great servant to the club and treated the fans with respect when scoring against us, doffed cap. BUT we all know that scoring and tackling all over the pitch one game only means that the Villa fans will be twice as frustrated when he scores an own goal, gives away another penalty and gets sent off in the next few weeks.

He obviously lacks the intelligence to realise that in the couple of weeks after leaving the biggest story in world football that even if he gave a 6 hour interview full of praise for us it would be the one negative thing in there which would be reported. He would've been well advised to keep his trap shut until the dust had settled. All this nonsense about Cook selling him behind his back is just a smokescreen in any case, the people that were telling Dunney this was happening and what a travesty it was wouldn't possibly be his agents would they, the people that stood to make money should he move on? Players get touted to other clubs all the time, Cook's job is to try and help Hughes build a world class squad and so if a player isn't a first choice then he should know what the market value of that player is just in case we decide to cash in, it's called planning!

[Hazy]

Let me tidy the Dunnie thing up for you, Dunne was told he had kicked his last ball for the club, He was told he had a choice speak with Aston Villa/Spurs or Celtic, The fee had been agreed with the clubs he was no longer required by the club, Mark Hughes told Dunne to his face.Dunne then found out that this had been on the table for 5 weeks, as soon as we signed Lescott, thay was the green light for his exit,That is what pissed him off, Cooke nad Hughes has assured him he was not for sale, That boys was from his agent at the Fulham game.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Just saw this.

http://www.castrolfootball.com/article/ ... A2044B.php

Dunne ranked the 13th best player in the performance index for the World Cup qualifiers so far.

That's great if you are Irish.

[Alex Sapphire]

Let me tidy the Dunnie thing up for you, Dunne was told he had kicked his last ball for the club, He was told he had a choice speak with Aston Villa/Spurs or Celtic, The fee had been agreed with the clubs he was no longer required by the club, Mark Hughes told Dunne to his face.Dunne then found out that this had been on the table for 5 weeks, as soon as we signed Lescott, thay was the green light for his exit,That is what pissed him off, Cooke nad Hughes has assured him he was not for sale, That boys was from his agent at the Fulham game.

do you mean Trevor Steven?

[Hazy]

No it was not Trevor Steven.

[john@staustell]

I think we need to get over this one chaps.

[Ted Hughes]

Let me tidy the Dunnie thing up for you, Dunne was told he had kicked his last ball for the club, He was told he had a choice speak with Aston Villa/Spurs or Celtic, The fee had been agreed with the clubs he was no longer required by the club, Mark Hughes told Dunne to his face.Dunne then found out that this had been on the table for 5 weeks, as soon as we signed Lescott, thay was the green light for his exit,That is what pissed him off, Cooke nad Hughes has assured him he was not for sale, That boys was from his agent at the Fulham game.

do you mean Trevor Steven?

His wife presumably; she did the negotiating.

[sky_blue_stew]

If he was ever going to come out with one of his class performances, it was always going to be last night. Showed himself at his best. Respect for the respect he showed us when scoring, but also for the travelling fans last night who applauded him when he was given MOM. Behaved a lot better than the Villa fans did against Barry!

[Chinners]

I believe Sir Niall of Quinn was the first player to donate his testimonial earning to charity.

[Hazy]

I believe Sir Niall of Quinn was the first player to donate his testimonial earning to charity.

Well with the welsh Mafia and the Irish Captain abused for 12 months ! I would suggest he saves his money for security gates/Camera and one of thise sunday supplement cut your own hair in 30 secs thingymajigs, and are pair a pair of adidas green flash.