King Kev wrote:WTF??
Original Dub wrote:King Kev wrote:WTF??
Well the referee made a decision at the time and so did the one with us on Saturday.
Until video evidence is brought in to be used there and then, I think the referee's decision is final. Unless football's gone mad, which is starting to look this way of late...
"Following examination of all the evidence, notably the declarations of both the referee and the referees' assessor, as well as the various video footage, it was not established to our satisfaction that the referee had been deceived in taking his decision on the penalty."
ronk wrote:Original Dub wrote:King Kev wrote:WTF??
Well the referee made a decision at the time and so did the one with us on Saturday.
Until video evidence is brought in to be used there and then, I think the referee's decision is final. Unless football's gone mad, which is starting to look this way of late...
So you're saying that if the ref awards a penalty for a dive then it wasn't a dive, it was a foul. If you cheat to win a game then you should be liable for punishment, by definition you can really only be punished afterwards for conning the ref.
ronk wrote:Original Dub wrote:King Kev wrote:WTF??
Well the referee made a decision at the time and so did the one with us on Saturday.
Until video evidence is brought in to be used there and then, I think the referee's decision is final. Unless football's gone mad, which is starting to look this way of late...
So you're saying that if the ref awards a penalty for a dive then it wasn't a dive, it was a foul. If you cheat to win a game then you should be liable for punishment, by definition you can really only be punished afterwards for conning the ref.
kinkylola wrote:If the ref doesn't see it it's not cheating.
That's how sport has been played since time immemorial. There are thousands of ways for a player to "cheat" ... stomping on feet, going up for a header and purposefully landing on someone's foot, etc ... the list is endless. Unless it's seen by the ref it's part of the game, and that is also a part of what makes the game wonderful. Everyone has little tricks they use that are technically illegal but it doesn't matter. If sport was played completely by the book, then it would lose alot of the passion. controversy is entertaining.
there are alot of people taking a moral high ground on this, but in my opinion it's really a non-issue. And it has happened since the start of the game. It's just now with HD cameras and super slow motion that we can see it and people make a big deal out of it. I think alot of people would be surprised to know that alot of their heroes did dubious things to get a leg up on opponents, it's all part of the game to me. You hope the ref sees it, but if he doesn't you've got to just get on with it.
Original Dub wrote:I'm saying exactly that. Until they bring in another official watching the incidents on the spot, then the referee's decision is final, yes.
What if its a dive in a cup final and the winning goal is the penalty after the dive? The team won the cup and the game is over, because they don't have on the spot video evidence. Its a shame and not something I agree with, but retrospective video evidence when the referee has ruled on it seems like a dangerous path to go down IMO, when the simpler route is doing it there and then.
The fact that Eduardo had the decision go his way without it being noticed by the officials during the game is the way the game is. Banning him for two games becuase they didn't have the means to catch him at the time is their fault.
LookMumI'mOnMCF.net wrote:The whole sport now is becoming more and more like American wrestling as the focus steadily moves away from the sport itself and more towards players personalities, sensationalism and now forced ludicrous circumstance.
Fucking joke.
LookMumI'mOnMCF.net wrote:The whole sport now is becoming more and more like American wrestling as the focus steadily moves away from the sport itself and more towards players personalities, sensationalism and now forced ludicrous circumstance.
Fucking joke.
TheGOAT wrote:The reason it got overturned was becasue it was a yellow card offence. Which is not a 2 game ban!
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