Poll: Was it possible for Clattenburg not to have seen?

[Original Dub]

Where are you?

sorry.

fucking knew someone would do that.

Cheers you cunt.

Seriously though, are guests allowed vote in these polls? I really can't fathom how ANYBODY that wasn't retarded on on a wind up could think Clattenburg never saw the incident...

[Dameerto]

Forget the INTENT the poll isnt about that - the poll is about whether you think the ref had an unobstructed view of the contact between Ade;s boot and VP's head - and viewing the camera footage from behind Ade it appears that he was looking straight at the incident with the contact in full view.

[Slim]

He saw it, the question is flawed. It should be did it register what he was seeing, and IMO he didn't.

[Original Dub]

He saw it, the question is flawed. It should be did it register what he was seeing, and IMO he didn't.

Ah mate that's like asking if he's a stupid cunt!

[Slim]

He saw it, the question is flawed. It should be did it register what he was seeing, and IMO he didn't.

Ah mate that's like asking if he's a stupid cunt!

The question could be rephrased.

Is he corrupt or just incompetent?

Either way, if he didn't see it or didn't realise what he was seeing, he should be removed from premier league matches. We can't have incompetent or corrupt officials surely.

[Original Dub]

He saw it, the question is flawed. It should be did it register what he was seeing, and IMO he didn't.

Ah mate that's like asking if he's a stupid cunt!

The question could be rephrased.

Is he corrupt or just incompetent?

Either way, if he didn't see it or didn't realise what he was seeing, he should be removed from premier league matches. We can't have incompetent or corrupt officials surely.

This is the thing. It is obvious to my ten year old daughter that he not only saw the incident, but gestured to RVP to either tell him to get up or check if he's ok. It is obvious to the FA and to every legal expert that this is the case.

If the fact that he gave a false statement to a governing body is not addressed by our legal team then the world has already gone mad.

The key witness in a case has been caught on video as having given a false statement. The case has to be thrown out... every fucking time!!

[Blackadder2]

Clattenburg did see the incident - in real time at normal speed from his unique angle. Watch it that way from any angle though and the only thing that is conclusive is that VP should have been at least booked for the initial challenge. That foul challenge threw Ade off balance, his boot connected accidentally with VP's precious face due to his momentum. If anything, he has tried to avoid kicking him.

In slow motion though, which is what Clattenburg has NOW seen, it 'appears' that Ade deliberately changed the direction of his foot to connect with VP's ugly mush. Slo-mo can do that

There a probably a dozen incidents per game that you could run in slo-mo to suggest that something looks untoward.

I would be hoping that the FA panel review the footage at normal speed.

[Slim]

Clattenburg did see the incident - in real time at normal speed from his unique angle. Watch it that way from any angle though and the only thing that is conclusive is that VP should have been at least booked for the initial challenge. That foul challenge threw Ade off balance, his boot connected accidentally with VP's precious face due to his momentum. If anything, he has tried to avoid kicking him.

In slow motion though, which is what Clattenburg has NOW seen, it 'appears' that Ade deliberately changed the direction of his foot to connect with VP's ugly mush. Slo-mo can do that

There a probably a dozen incidents per game that you could run in slo-mo to suggest that something looks untoward.

I would be hoping that the FA panel review the footage at normal speed.

Especially if you slightly speed up the motion at the time his foot comes down. Not enough so people will see the footage running at two distinctive speeds, but just to give the illusion of downward force.

Personally I think the only one who knows 100% for sure if he meant it is Adebayor, it looks suspicious but who can really tell what was going through his head.

[sweenyuk]

Why did he give a freekick against Ade if he did not see it...???

[Slim]

Why did he give a freekick against Ade if he did not see it...???

He didn't.

[Blackadder2]

Clattenburg did see the incident - in real time at normal speed from his unique angle. Watch it that way from any angle though and the only thing that is conclusive is that VP should have been at least booked for the initial challenge. That foul challenge threw Ade off balance, his boot connected accidentally with VP's precious face due to his momentum. If anything, he has tried to avoid kicking him.

In slow motion though, which is what Clattenburg has NOW seen, it 'appears' that Ade deliberately changed the direction of his foot to connect with VP's ugly mush. Slo-mo can do that

There a probably a dozen incidents per game that you could run in slo-mo to suggest that something looks untoward.

I would be hoping that the FA panel review the footage at normal speed.

Especially if you slightly speed up the motion at the time his foot comes down. Not enough so people will see the footage running at two distinctive speeds, but just to give the illusion of downward force.

Personally I think the only one who knows 100% for sure if he meant it is Adebayor, it looks suspicious but who can really tell what was going through his head.

Surely Sky or the BBC wouldn't dream of doing something so underhand? That would be like faking a premium-rate phone-in competition on a childrens' TV programme...

[Ted Hughes]

Clattenburg did see the incident - in real time at normal speed from his unique angle. Watch it that way from any angle though and the only thing that is conclusive is that VP should have been at least booked for the initial challenge. That foul challenge threw Ade off balance, his boot connected accidentally with VP's precious face due to his momentum. If anything, he has tried to avoid kicking him.

In slow motion though, which is what Clattenburg has NOW seen, it 'appears' that Ade deliberately changed the direction of his foot to connect with VP's ugly mush. Slo-mo can do that

There a probably a dozen incidents per game that you could run in slo-mo to suggest that something looks untoward.

I would be hoping that the FA panel review the footage at normal speed.

Especially if you slightly speed up the motion at the time his foot comes down. Not enough so people will see the footage running at two distinctive speeds, but just to give the illusion of downward force.

Personally I think the only one who knows 100% for sure if he meant it is Adebayor, it looks suspicious but who can really tell what was going through his head.

Surely Sky or the BBC wouldn't dream of doing something so underhand? That would be like faking a premium-rate phone-in competition on a childrens' TV programme...

There were 3 Arsenal players & the ref all within a few yards at different angles to the incident. Not one of them had a reaction. They didn't react because they didn't see anything as there was nothing to see; he tripped over him. No way could they all miss it, they were all looking straight at it. This is trial by media & it fucking stinks.

[gillie]

If Battenburg says he did not see it imo he is not fit to referee in any league.He was close enough to take Ade's laces out of his boots ffs he saw it and ruled nothing untoward happened and has not got the balls to stand up and be counted.

[Manx Blue]

I think he has seen the incident. From the Angle which he is looking at, whilst there is contact, you don't really get the "severity" of the situation until the camer angle is turned to that front on. In otherwords, I feel he has been swayed by that particular camera angle and has said he would have sent him off to cover his arse

[avoidconfusion]

Questions do have to be asked as to how he could not have seen that (if that is even true) ... I mean I didn't see it when it happened live but I watched it on TV .

He was right next to this, 3m away tops and looking right at the two.

[SORTED]

FA: Mark what are your thoughts on the Adebayour stamping incident
Clattenburg: I'd call it more of a 100 yard sprint...I booked him for it
FA: No with Van Persie
Clattenburg: Well yeah it was a reckless challenge...but Adebayour escaped unscathed so I waved play on
FA: For fucks sake Mark just back us on this and say you never saw it. Comprende?
Clatteburg: Ahhhhhh, I see. It's the Manchester Derby on Sunday isn't it. Of course I would have sent Adebayour off, no doubt.

[gillie]

FA: Mark what are your thoughts on the Adebayour stamping incident
Clattenburg: I'd call it more of a 100 yard sprint...I booked him for it
FA: No with Van Persie
Clattenburg: Well yeah it was a reckless challenge...but Adebayour escaped unscathed so I waved play on
FA: For fucks sake Mark just back us on this and say you never saw it. Comprende?
Clatteburg: Ahhhhhh, I see. It's the Manchester Derby on Sunday isn't it. Of course I would have sent Adebayour off, no doubt.

That may very well be the transcript of there conversation imo.

[anthonytomo]

I'll be honest and say I voted that he never seen it, although nobody but Clattenburg knows this. I voted this way because I feel that he obviously seen the tackle by VP and that Ade rode the tackle and came back down to the ground standing, but, he may not have actually seen Ade's foot move and make contact with his face. He may well have been watching the bigger picture rather than a pixel, so to speak.

[blues-clues]

The really stupid thing is that if Ade had actually jumped up to avoid the foul and then stepped on Van Penis' head and knocked him out but then fallen over as a result of the impact he would probably have got a free kick in his favour and VP would have got a straight red for a two footed challenge when he eventually came around!

[Grob]

Mark Clattenburg is a wally