avoidconfusion wrote:Does the ban only count for League games or do Cup games count too?
cup games count.
avoidconfusion wrote:Does the ban only count for League games or do Cup games count too?
Slim wrote:The Man In Blue wrote:BlueinBosnia wrote:Blueboylewis wrote:Sorry i have not read through these posts. But as it stands Ade can not play in the derby can he? And also If we appeal tommorow will it be dealt with by Sunday?
Cheers
No. As it stands, Ade can play in the Derby unless found guilty of the charges put against him by the FA.
However, City can then appeal against a guilty verdict. What we are trying to clarify is whether an appeal will be over before the Derby. If not, he will be able to play. If we appeal, and the verdict is not overturned, he is banned from the time the appeal is over. However, if we succesfully appeal, there is no ban whatsoever, or it is reduced.
there is also the possibility that if we appeal and fail, the ban could be increased.
I would rather have him for the next 3(Filth, Hammers, Villa) than the following 4 matches(Wigan, Fulham, Birmingham, Burnley) so unless they go insane on the ban increase I would rather appeal.
BlueinBosnia wrote:With everyone starting their own Ade thread over the past couple of days, I've decided I may as well join in.
Some people say we'll be able to appeal, thus allowing him to be able to play for definite on sunday. Others seem to ignore this. I haven't seen an argument yet that would seem to indicate we are not able to appeal, but plenty of people appear to not think we have a hope.
So, can we appeal, and what are the likelihoods of this (bearing in mind there are 2 separate charcges) allowing him to play on sunday?
Thanks.
The Man In Blue wrote:avoidconfusion wrote:Does the ban only count for League games or do Cup games count too?
cup games count.
BlueinBosnia wrote:Slim wrote:The Man In Blue wrote:BlueinBosnia wrote:Blueboylewis wrote:Sorry i have not read through these posts. But as it stands Ade can not play in the derby can he? And also If we appeal tommorow will it be dealt with by Sunday?
Cheers
No. As it stands, Ade can play in the Derby unless found guilty of the charges put against him by the FA.
However, City can then appeal against a guilty verdict. What we are trying to clarify is whether an appeal will be over before the Derby. If not, he will be able to play. If we appeal, and the verdict is not overturned, he is banned from the time the appeal is over. However, if we succesfully appeal, there is no ban whatsoever, or it is reduced.
there is also the possibility that if we appeal and fail, the ban could be increased.
I would rather have him for the next 3(Filth, Hammers, Villa) than the following 4 matches(Wigan, Fulham, Birmingham, Burnley) so unless they go insane on the ban increase I would rather appeal.
I'd have thought that, were the appeal unsuccesful, the ban would come into effect from midnight after the second verdict. So in your scenario of 4 games, that would mean Hammers, Villa, Wigan and Fulham. Cup matches aren't included are they? I had a feeling they were for charges, but not for on-field decisions.
gillie wrote:Help me out on this one if he pleads guilty he will get a 3 match ban right?.But as yet no punishment has been mentioned so if he appeals he is only appealing against the charge not the punishment?.Help this is making my head hurt lol.
crossan wrote:Probably the honorable thing would be to accept what the FA are charging Adebayor with and move on,give the brainless tosser a good talking to and a massive internal fine,that would clean up the tainted image of our club.
kinkylola wrote:crossan wrote:Probably the honorable thing would be to accept what the FA are charging Adebayor with and move on,give the brainless tosser a good talking to and a massive internal fine,that would clean up the tainted image of our club.
yes, lay down and accept this bit of trash being thrown at us. Ignore that Adebayor says he didn't do it ... forget about getting behind our own players when they feel they are being wrongly prosecuted, instead punish them harshly. Oh! and fall back into line. good boy.
pathetic mindset.
crossan wrote:kinkylola wrote:crossan wrote:Probably the honorable thing would be to accept what the FA are charging Adebayor with and move on,give the brainless tosser a good talking to and a massive internal fine,that would clean up the tainted image of our club.
yes, lay down and accept this bit of trash being thrown at us. Ignore that Adebayor says he didn't do it ... forget about getting behind our own players when they feel they are being wrongly prosecuted, instead punish them harshly. Oh! and fall back into line. good boy.
pathetic mindset.
So you did not see either incident obviously..............
crossan wrote:kinkylola wrote:crossan wrote:Probably the honorable thing would be to accept what the FA are charging Adebayor with and move on,give the brainless tosser a good talking to and a massive internal fine,that would clean up the tainted image of our club.
yes, lay down and accept this bit of trash being thrown at us. Ignore that Adebayor says he didn't do it ... forget about getting behind our own players when they feel they are being wrongly prosecuted, instead punish them harshly. Oh! and fall back into line. good boy.
pathetic mindset.
So you did not see either incident obviously..............
bluelingy wrote:From what I have read and been told
1 Charge has to be brought no later Tuesday (done)
2 we have until PM Wednesday to plead guilty and except the 3 match ban , cup games included / plead not guilty submit our evidence by fax or e mail (this would be our appeal)
3 F A meet Thursday to examine our evidence and judge accordingly - accepting our evidence and dropping the charge / dismissing our evidence and keeping the ban / or dismissing our evidence and deciding we have wasted their time and increasing the ban by one game
4 case closed no appeal allowed after Thursdays decision. Ade will miss the derby if fa dismiss our evidence on Thursday no appeal.
kinkylola wrote:bluelingy wrote:From what I have read and been told
1 Charge has to be brought no later Tuesday (done)
2 we have until PM Wednesday to plead guilty and except the 3 match ban , cup games included / plead not guilty submit our evidence by fax or e mail (this would be our appeal)
3 F A meet Thursday to examine our evidence and judge accordingly - accepting our evidence and dropping the charge / dismissing our evidence and keeping the ban / or dismissing our evidence and deciding we have wasted their time and increasing the ban by one game
4 case closed no appeal allowed after Thursdays decision. Ade will miss the derby if fa dismiss our evidence on Thursday no appeal.
Isn't ade's plead to the charge different than an appeal? An appeal takes place after a verdict is handed down, and I always understood this to be part of due process. I could definitely be wrong, and I don't know that the FA have to follow this or how it works at all really ... but If it is as I think, shouldn't our appeal happen on Thursday/whenever the actual verdict is decided?
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