U20 World Cup

[Slim]

When someone uses the word 'motherfucker' do you think they are actually inferring fucking one's mother?

There is no deducing WHEN YOU FUCKING STATE IT.

[edge275]

Eat my arse.

Can I take it then that you can't take criticism? How would Clayton feel then reading your comments?

Have an opinion yes but when it relates to the young lads from the academy then try to keep it in perspective.

P.S. Were you meaning your last comment literally? If yes, then sadly, I'll have to decline.

Maybe he would think "That cunt is right!" and up his game?

[BlueinBosnia]

Let me ask you this.

When someone uses the word 'motherfucker' do you think they are actually inferring fucking one's mother?

Do you take everything so literal?

The word you are actually looking for is 'implying'. But I think that you still have more important things to learn about life than that, Edge.

Inferring is fine.

No it's not, at least if you want to be correct.

# infer - deduce: conclude by reasoning; in logic

Seems fine to me.

When you use a word, you imply.
When you read/hear a word, you infer.

[edge275]

When you use a word, you imply.
When you read/hear a word, you infer.

So what are you trying to imply?

[Ted Hughes]

England are producing neat tidy players & solid-ish defenders but very few real attacking stars because the accent is on coaching little kids to do a job in teams rather than producing skillful flair players. The so called skill players we do produce like that overrated raglet Fabien Brandy are just not quite up to the level required. We're mostly producing generations of what Eric C*****a would call 'water carriers'.

We got exactly the same problem here (only in smaller scale of course). The emphasis on training the young players is so heavily on next game or season or whatever that overall developement of individual talents tends to get pushed behind. I'm sure it has lot to do with Finnish mentality of "working hard for the team" being a virtue here but truth is that hinders th progress of technically gifted talent and we end up producing decent defenders and goalkeepers and some defensive midfielders but few if any decent attacking players.

Dutch, who are masters at producing skillfull players, place little or no emphasis on competitive side of the game until the players are on their late teens. Until then they are encouraged to hone their individual skills even if overall team performance suffers. Furthermore, there young players are played all across the park in youth football whereas here, and I suspect in England as well, they give you a position early on and that's where you tend to stay until you grow up.

I don't think it's a coincidence that in the days when most little kids used to learn their football kicking a ball in the steets, almost every team in our top division had at least one ball playing wizard, some of whom produced football close to genius at times. Since more & more coching has become involved, so there have been less & less inspirational ball players. I can't think of a genuine world class, English flair player since Gascoigne.

[Kyle]

When someone uses the word 'motherfucker' do you think they are actually inferring fucking one's mother?

There is no deducing WHEN YOU FUCKING STATE IT.

Haha...

[edge275]

When someone uses the word 'motherfucker' do you think they are actually inferring fucking one's mother?

There is no deducing WHEN YOU FUCKING STATE IT.

Eh?

[frankie]

Maybe he would think "That cunt is right!" and up his game?

Or maybe he might think "That cunt is a proper cunt" and put you on ignore.

[edge275]

Maybe he would think "That cunt is right!" and up his game?

Or maybe he might think "That cunt is a proper cunt" and put you on ignore.

Did you see the game?

Did you see how woeful his crossing was?

it was diabolical.

[frankie]

Maybe he would think "That cunt is right!" and up his game?

Or maybe he might think "That cunt is a proper cunt" and put you on ignore.

Did you see the game?

Did you see how woeful his crossing was?

it was diabolical.

Yes, i saw the game and i thought this summary was nearer the mark than yours.

Clayton looks very handy, nice touches and good work in and around the left channel. Choochoo-Nimely had some very good runs into space, but he was being pushed wide more than not and needs to be stronger with his runs off the ball. Trippier continues a long line of right backs at city who can't cross and the standout for me was Ben Mee who looked to be the general of the defence and made only one mistake all game that wasn't punished. The late winner was some what spectacular and will be a kick in the teeth to the lads but on balance was probably the right result.

Bet you shouted at the telly watching the derby "Tevez you useless cunt. You couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo" when he hit the post just before half time.

[edge275]

Maybe he would think "That cunt is right!" and up his game?

Or maybe he might think "That cunt is a proper cunt" and put you on ignore.

Did you see the game?

Did you see how woeful his crossing was?

it was diabolical.

Yes, i saw the game and i thought this summary was nearer the mark than yours.

Clayton looks very handy, nice touches and good work in and around the left channel. Choochoo-Nimely had some very good runs into space, but he was being pushed wide more than not and needs to be stronger with his runs off the ball. Trippier continues a long line of right backs at city who can't cross and the standout for me was Ben Mee who looked to be the general of the defence and made only one mistake all game that wasn't punished. The late winner was some what spectacular and will be a kick in the teeth to the lads but on balance was probably the right result.

Bet you shouted at the telly watching the derby "Tevez you useless cunt. You couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo" when he hit the post just before half time.

Nah, I rate Tevez.

Clayton was still shite though.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

Maybe he would think "That cunt is right!" and up his game?

Or maybe he might think "That cunt is a proper cunt" and put you on ignore.

Did you see the game?

Did you see how woeful his crossing was?

it was diabolical.

lol now I am not actually sure you know which one Clayton was

[CheadleBlue]

Maybe he would think "That cunt is right!" and up his game?

Or maybe he might think "That cunt is a proper cunt" and put you on ignore.

Did you see the game?

Did you see how woeful his crossing was?

it was diabolical.

lol now I am not actually sure you know which one Clayton was

You're right Douglas. He's either talking about Paul Marshall in midfield or Kieran Trippier. But my comments still remain whether it was either of these two and not Adam Clayton.

[Slim]

Trippier unfortunately was the one knocking in the crosses that were a long way overhit. His defending wasn't too bad but he could have given away a penalty had the guy he tripped not already been booked for diving.

[Abu Dhabi]

So England got beaten by Ghana 4-0 ..
Only watched the highlights, the second was a cracker..

Too bad for England those defeats but thats the funny thing with such tournaments, even with such a record you might still go through. A win in the last game might take England to 2nd round through best 3rds.

[Ted Hughes]

So how many of the England lads would get in the Uraguay or Ghana teams then? If they can't do that why are we interested in them as potential City players? Hardly any of City's best young players are English unfortunately.

[Fidel Castro]

So how many of the England lads would get in the Uraguay or Ghana teams then? If they can't do that why are we interested in them as potential City players? Hardly any of City's best young players are English unfortunately.

That was my point. Originally, I was excited that so many City lads got in the England squad, but what is that worth if England youth team is fuclin shite??? I desperately want as many local lads to break through into our first team but it doesn't look likely does it? Most likely 90% of our academy lads will turn out to be decent lower division players (Croft, Evans, Shuker, Whelan etc etc) and if we actually ever want to win something we will be lucky to have 1 or 2 homegrown players in the team or even squad. Cassell and the staff at academy have done a brilliant job but it seems abroad players are trained differently and even shite tiny countries churn out talented players but England hasn't produced a truly world-class player since Gerrard.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

England are producing neat tidy players & solid-ish defenders but very few real attacking stars because the accent is on coaching little kids to do a job in teams rather than producing skillful flair players. The so called skill players we do produce like that overrated raglet Fabien Brandy are just not quite up to the level required. We're mostly producing generations of what Eric C*****a would call 'water carriers'.

We got exactly the same problem here (only in smaller scale of course). The emphasis on training the young players is so heavily on next game or season or whatever that overall developement of individual talents tends to get pushed behind. I'm sure it has lot to do with Finnish mentality of "working hard for the team" being a virtue here but truth is that hinders th progress of technically gifted talent and we end up producing decent defenders and goalkeepers and some defensive midfielders but few if any decent attacking players.

Dutch, who are masters at producing skillfull players, place little or no emphasis on competitive side of the game until the players are on their late teens. Until then they are encouraged to hone their individual skills even if overall team performance suffers. Furthermore, there young players are played all across the park in youth football whereas here, and I suspect in England as well, they give you a position early on and that's where you tend to stay until you grow up.

I don't think it's a coincidence that in the days when most little kids used to learn their football kicking a ball in the steets, almost every team in our top division had at least one ball playing wizard, some of whom produced football close to genius at times. Since more & more coching has become involved, so there have been less & less inspirational ball players. I can't think of a genuine world class, English flair player since Gascoigne.

Very true.

In school yard 28 vs 28 games the best way to deall with it was to dribble and learn how to cover the ball. Backyard 3 vs 3 games thought you how to pass ball efectively. These days, at least here, they seem to train a lot with their teams early on but there's few if any kids playing good old fashioned back street football.

Problem is, there's so much to do these days. Video games, karate training, trampoline hopping, shopping, whatever. Back in the days when I was kid in early-80's all the kids were out playing football until the sun set and mum came calling for bed time.

[Ted Hughes]

England are producing neat tidy players & solid-ish defenders but very few real attacking stars because the accent is on coaching little kids to do a job in teams rather than producing skillful flair players. The so called skill players we do produce like that overrated raglet Fabien Brandy are just not quite up to the level required. We're mostly producing generations of what Eric C*****a would call 'water carriers'.

We got exactly the same problem here (only in smaller scale of course). The emphasis on training the young players is so heavily on next game or season or whatever that overall developement of individual talents tends to get pushed behind. I'm sure it has lot to do with Finnish mentality of "working hard for the team" being a virtue here but truth is that hinders th progress of technically gifted talent and we end up producing decent defenders and goalkeepers and some defensive midfielders but few if any decent attacking players.

Dutch, who are masters at producing skillfull players, place little or no emphasis on competitive side of the game until the players are on their late teens. Until then they are encouraged to hone their individual skills even if overall team performance suffers. Furthermore, there young players are played all across the park in youth football whereas here, and I suspect in England as well, they give you a position early on and that's where you tend to stay until you grow up.

I don't think it's a coincidence that in the days when most little kids used to learn their football kicking a ball in the steets, almost every team in our top division had at least one ball playing wizard, some of whom produced football close to genius at times. Since more & more coching has become involved, so there have been less & less inspirational ball players. I can't think of a genuine world class, English flair player since Gascoigne.

Very true.

In school yard 28 vs 28 games the best way to deall with it was to dribble and learn how to cover the ball. Backyard 3 vs 3 games thought you how to pass ball efectively. These days, at least here, they seem to train a lot with their teams early on but there's few if any kids playing good old fashioned back street football.

Problem is, there's so much to do these days. Video games, karate training, trampoline hopping, shopping, whatever. Back in the days when I was kid in early-80's all the kids were out playing football until the sun set and mum came calling for bed time.

Well that's part of the problem as well yeah, so many kids doing other things rather than football. The geezer from West Ham's academy was talking about that last week. That makes it more important that the kids who do want to play are encouraged to make the most of their skills though rather than having a bunch of Tony Pulis type characters & psychotic parents screaming instructions at them.

[Abu Dhabi]

UAE just secured 2nd round qualification sitting on top of Group F after 2 rounds. Get innn!