Santa Cruz

[lets all have a disco]

Not another one of these, fuck me im going to bed ive just got in from Villa and seen so much shite on the board.


YES WE PLAYED SHITE AS A TEAM BUT A POINTS A POINT.

[PalmettoBlue]

Hughes:

“Roque got a Craig Bellamy finger in his eye almost immediately and was struggling. Almost all the time he was out there he was working with one eye.”

That couldn't have helped

[Slim]

Crocky will come good, I have absolutely no doubt of that. I appreciate that people have seen him play for Bayern and most of us have seen him play for Blackburn, however what he has done and what he is capable of are two completely different stories. Three quick examples? Shaun Goater, Albert Riera and Diego Forlan. However with Crocky he will benefit from playing with some of the best players in the league and given more opportunities to score and play himself into form that he could shake a stick at.

He was poor last night yes, but it was the wrong game, the wrong time and the wrong role for him. I could not imagine a worse situation to put him in, maybe of a wet monday in Wigan? Not nearly a true reflection of the player.

[Florida Blue]

I will support him as he is one of our own, but I do not think he should ever have been bought, especially at that price. Aside from the 2007-08 campaign what has he really done? Yes you can say that Hughes knows him and see his value. He may have value but not at a price just less than we paid for Given and Barry combined.

I did take a shot at him yesterday in the match thread and rightly so, he had no business playing in this game. Either he has a really poor touch and is slow (in which case he desereved a good slagging) or he just is not ready (in which case Hughes deserves one). I am willing to be patient with him, but I do not think our lack ariel presence offensively was enough of an issue to bring him on for Tevez. If Tevez needed to come off, I would have much preferred Petrov and shuffling the players around.

I really hope he becomes something, but not at the expense of fit players who have proven their form and contributted recently like Marty. Yesterday RSC did nothing but take up oxygen on the pitch, I cannot even say he contrbutted much other than a 15 yard dribble followed by an somewhat accurate pass to Bellers.

[Hazy]

Hughes, is well aware of the requirements of returning players from long term injury, I say lets trust him he has a backroom staff state of the art rehab second to none in world football, RSC needs to get match fit, A bit like Toure and Lescott forming a partnership having to do it in the fast Lane of the Premier League is not ideal but needed.

[The Man In Blue]

“Manu was a bit rusty after his lay off and there were a few like that. Roque got a Craig Bellamy finger in his eye almost immediately and was struggling. Almost all the time he was out there he was working with one eye."

could explain his attempts at passing.

really though it is laughable, and in some cases illuminating that people are writing him off already. what does hughes have to do to get people's faith with signings? if les reckons he will do a good job for us, that's good enough for me atm. TBH is the only one he got wrong.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

I'm more concerned that in most of the games he's played, Tevez has given or the lost the ball too many times.

To ave a go at Crockie is piss poor form IMO. For fucles sake, he's not played for months. Give him a break for fucles sake!

Having said that. We had a lot of possession on Villa's manor and not many teams will do that this season. We're a work in progress and will certainly get better and better IMO.

who had ago at cruz?

Quite a few in the match thread mate.

MATCH THREADS DONT COUNT - TOO EMOTIONAL.

Nothing to do with the subject of this topic but that is bang on. For us who can't be there, official match thread has always been about heat of the moment reactions and should be treated like that. I don't usually even read match threads after the games.

Recently we've had people dig up comments from there days after the game and I think that's highly unfair. Most people swear at our own players every now and then for missing easy chance or making mess out of situation in stands as well. It's no different in match topics. And I'm going to do that in future as well.

Personally I think I should someday record myself on video during the games the way I go through emotions. People would probably understand better

[Hazy]

I'm more concerned that in most of the games he's played, Tevez has given or the lost the ball too many times.

To ave a go at Crockie is piss poor form IMO. For fucles sake, he's not played for months. Give him a break for fucles sake!

Having said that. We had a lot of possession on Villa's manor and not many teams will do that this season. We're a work in progress and will certainly get better and better IMO.

who had ago at cruz?

Quite a few in the match thread mate.

MATCH THREADS DONT COUNT - TOO EMOTIONAL.

Nothing to do with the subject of this topic but that is bang on. For us who can't be there, official match thread has always been about heat of the moment reactions and should be treated like that. I don't usually even read match threads after the games.

Recently we've had people dig up comments from there days after the game and I think that's highly unfair. Most people swear at our own players every now and then for missing easy chance or making mess out of situation in stands as well. It's no different in match topics. And I'm going to do that in future as well.

Personally I think I should someday record myself on video during the games the way I go through emotions. People would probably understand better

1 of your best posts recently, the emotion does take over, unless you were at the Arsenal Game for example and the panel who Banned Ade were not there no man would not have given it back to the Arsenal whingers after 2 hours of abuse, NDJ having a bad 2nd half you pointed it out to quick for most poss right as well but it was the Derby losing them cunts I do not even speak for a day. In fact I am ill thinking about it.

[Cityfan]

Anyone with any emotional involvment in a live match gets pissed off at their own players from time to time. You only have to look at managers in the dug out to realise it ain't just the fans. There is a difference between being pissed off with a player who has a moment of madness and being the occasinal kind of fan who seems to take delight in moaning about their own team for 90 minutes. Don't understand why these guys follow a team.

[lythamblue]

Absolute madness this thread ..... just give the guy a break and see what he can do!

You are like judging as to whether you like your new car ...... before you have even driven it out of the dealers car park!

Jesus H Christ ..... 30 mins of football in six months with a completely new team and colleagues. How can you even attempt to judge him on that?

You can argue as to whether he should have been brought on at such a vital time in the Villa game, but there is no way you can debate his performance already with any accurate assumptions.

[giokingkladze]

One word: Bellamy.

In Hughes we trust, Rocky will be a top player for us

[Original Dub]

I'm more concerned that in most of the games he's played, Tevez has given or the lost the ball too many times.

To ave a go at Crockie is piss poor form IMO. For fucles sake, he's not played for months. Give him a break for fucles sake!

Having said that. We had a lot of possession on Villa's manor and not many teams will do that this season. We're a work in progress and will certainly get better and better IMO.

who had ago at cruz?

Quite a few in the match thread mate.

MATCH THREADS DONT COUNT - TOO EMOTIONAL.

Nothing to do with the subject of this topic but that is bang on. For us who can't be there, official match thread has always been about heat of the moment reactions and should be treated like that. I don't usually even read match threads after the games.

Recently we've had people dig up comments from there days after the game and I think that's highly unfair. Most people swear at our own players every now and then for missing easy chance or making mess out of situation in stands as well. It's no different in match topics. And I'm going to do that in future as well.

Personally I think I should someday record myself on video during the games the way I go through emotions. People would probably understand better

you're dead right - OFM is the place to vent your 'on the spur of the moment' anger....

Just don't start a whole new thread when in that frame of mind!!! ;)

[saulman]

Absolute madness this thread ..... just give the guy a break and see what he can do!

You are like judging as to whether you like your new car ...... before you have even driven it out of the dealers car park!

Jesus H Christ ..... 30 mins of football in six months with a completely new team and colleagues. How can you even attempt to judge him on that?

You can argue as to whether he should have been brought on at such a vital time in the Villa game, but there is no way you can debate his performance already with any accurate assumptions.

Absolutely spot on.

Won't make a shite of difference though. I suspect Rocky will com under plenty more scrutiny before he shows everyone what he can do. If people on here can't trust Lesley on his signings after Bellamy, then these debates will continue regardless.

[john@staustell]

Crticism is a little harsh - poke in the eye or not - and it could be that Les is looking at the big picture - home games coming up in which we need to slaughter a couple of teams. If he can get him firing and ready to go by Fulham, Burnley etc then it may be to our greater benefit.

The good news is that Paraguay haven't called on him for the last 2 WC qualifiers this week - I believe they are already qualified. He stays at City to train!!

[dazby]

I'm more concerned that in most of the games he's played, Tevez has given or the lost the ball too many times.

To ave a go at Crockie is piss poor form IMO. For fucles sake, he's not played for months. Give him a break for fucles sake!

Having said that. We had a lot of possession on Villa's manor and not many teams will do that this season. We're a work in progress and will certainly get better and better IMO.

who had ago at cruz?

Quite a few in the match thread mate.

MATCH THREADS DONT COUNT - TOO EMOTIONAL.

you're such a fucling woman.

[Steve]

I'm more concerned that in most of the games he's played, Tevez has given or the lost the ball too many times.

To ave a go at Crockie is piss poor form IMO. For fucles sake, he's not played for months. Give him a break for fucles sake!

Having said that. We had a lot of possession on Villa's manor and not many teams will do that this season. We're a work in progress and will certainly get better and better IMO.

who had ago at cruz?

Quite a few in the match thread mate.

MATCH THREADS DONT COUNT - TOO EMOTIONAL.

Nothing to do with the subject of this topic but that is bang on. For us who can't be there, official match thread has always been about heat of the moment reactions and should be treated like that. I don't usually even read match threads after the games.

Recently we've had people dig up comments from there days after the game and I think that's highly unfair. Most people swear at our own players every now and then for missing easy chance or making mess out of situation in stands as well. It's no different in match topics. And I'm going to do that in future as well.

Personally I think I should someday record myself on video during the games the way I go through emotions. People would probably understand better

I would buy that video mate