CITYTILLIDIE11 wrote:quote
Sorry mate but you are wrong ..... honestly .... just believe me on this one.
What I have stated, is not my policy ....... !!!!
So let me get this right, what you are saying is, that all that was in the public domain about 4th place finishes is totally untrue.
Whatever happens this season including not finishing in the top 4, and finishing midtable is totally acceptable to our owners,and Hughes will be rewarded with another season and another couple of hundred million.
2 very mediocre seasons after over £200 000 000 of finance is all in the bigger scheme of things, your telling me you know this for a fact ?,so I am to assume the players and the squad also know this for a fact ( errrrrrrrrm might explain their don’t give a fcuk performances at least)
Hughes job is safe regardless……………. Roflmao
Seriously mate I have never heard so much complete and utter tosh in my life.
lythamblue wrote:CITYTILLIDIE11 wrote:quote
Sorry mate but you are wrong ..... honestly .... just believe me on this one.
What I have stated, is not my policy ....... !!!!
So let me get this right, what you are saying is, that all that was in the public domain about 4th place finishes is totally untrue.
Whatever happens this season including not finishing in the top 4, and finishing midtable is totally acceptable to our owners,and Hughes will be rewarded with another season and another couple of hundred million.
2 very mediocre seasons after over £200 000 000 of finance is all in the bigger scheme of things, your telling me you know this for a fact ?,so I am to assume the players and the squad also know this for a fact ( errrrrrrrrm might explain their don’t give a fcuk performances at least)
Hughes job is safe regardless……………. Roflmao
Seriously mate I have never heard so much complete and utter tosh in my life.
You may think it's tosh but ..... it's true. The players aren't safe though as he can buy/sell/drop anyone he wants.
Like it or lump it .... the first 3 years of their tenure are all about building relationships and credibility. They correctly believe that if they react as the press would like them too, they will never have credibility and that will last forever. However, if they are seen to back and stand by 'a manager' (and MH is just the incumbant) the credibilty the football world will give them will last forever too and they will in coming years be able to recruit who ever they want .
Socrates wrote:
It's a fine balance though Mark, continuing to back a manager if he is clearly failing would also surely damage their credability?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we are at that point yet but it could certainly happen before three years are up!
Wonderwall wrote:Socrates wrote:
It's a fine balance though Mark, continuing to back a manager if he is clearly failing would also surely damage their credability?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we are at that point yet but it could certainly happen before three years are up!
hmmmm hedging your bets there jon!
Socrates wrote:lythamblue wrote:CITYTILLIDIE11 wrote:quote
Sorry mate but you are wrong ..... honestly .... just believe me on this one.
What I have stated, is not my policy ....... !!!!
So let me get this right, what you are saying is, that all that was in the public domain about 4th place finishes is totally untrue.
Whatever happens this season including not finishing in the top 4, and finishing midtable is totally acceptable to our owners,and Hughes will be rewarded with another season and another couple of hundred million.
2 very mediocre seasons after over £200 000 000 of finance is all in the bigger scheme of things, your telling me you know this for a fact ?,so I am to assume the players and the squad also know this for a fact ( errrrrrrrrm might explain their don’t give a fcuk performances at least)
Hughes job is safe regardless……………. Roflmao
Seriously mate I have never heard so much complete and utter tosh in my life.
You may think it's tosh but ..... it's true. The players aren't safe though as he can buy/sell/drop anyone he wants.
Like it or lump it .... the first 3 years of their tenure are all about building relationships and credibility. They correctly believe that if they react as the press would like them too, they will never have credibility and that will last forever. However, if they are seen to back and stand by 'a manager' (and MH is just the incumbant) the credibilty the football world will give them will last forever too and they will in coming years be able to recruit who ever they want .
It's a fine balance though Mark, continuing to back a manager if he is clearly failing would also surely damage their credability?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we are at that point yet but it could certainly happen before three years are up!
lythamblue wrote:Socrates wrote:lythamblue wrote:CITYTILLIDIE11 wrote:quote
Sorry mate but you are wrong ..... honestly .... just believe me on this one.
What I have stated, is not my policy ....... !!!!
So let me get this right, what you are saying is, that all that was in the public domain about 4th place finishes is totally untrue.
Whatever happens this season including not finishing in the top 4, and finishing midtable is totally acceptable to our owners,and Hughes will be rewarded with another season and another couple of hundred million.
2 very mediocre seasons after over £200 000 000 of finance is all in the bigger scheme of things, your telling me you know this for a fact ?,so I am to assume the players and the squad also know this for a fact ( errrrrrrrrm might explain their don’t give a fcuk performances at least)
Hughes job is safe regardless……………. Roflmao
Seriously mate I have never heard so much complete and utter tosh in my life.
You may think it's tosh but ..... it's true. The players aren't safe though as he can buy/sell/drop anyone he wants.
Like it or lump it .... the first 3 years of their tenure are all about building relationships and credibility. They correctly believe that if they react as the press would like them too, they will never have credibility and that will last forever. However, if they are seen to back and stand by 'a manager' (and MH is just the incumbant) the credibilty the football world will give them will last forever too and they will in coming years be able to recruit who ever they want .
It's a fine balance though Mark, continuing to back a manager if he is clearly failing would also surely damage their credability?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we are at that point yet but it could certainly happen before three years are up!
It is a fine balance but it is the way they run their business. They are more bothered about respect at the moment than results. They believe, get respect within the industry first and then you build up your empire on the back of it. They have the patience and MH is the lucky guy who just had the incumbant position whern they arrived. They do think a lot of him though. Success will come with him or without him ..... they can wait.
Also remember, we are the smallest business they own and we are just one small part of the Abu Dhabi Commercial Masterplan over the next 10 years. The 'next 5 games' threads mean a lot more to us than them at the moment. They are looking at the next 5 YEARS.
Socrates wrote:I don't think they think in terms of less than twenty years never mind five. Neither would I if it weren't for the threat to the project from UEFA! It's certain that the rush of spending this summer was a reaction to that threat and the correct one. We just have to meet one short term goal and then the long term objectives can take over again.
lythamblue wrote:Socrates wrote:lythamblue wrote:CITYTILLIDIE11 wrote:quote
Sorry mate but you are wrong ..... honestly .... just believe me on this one.
What I have stated, is not my policy ....... !!!!
So let me get this right, what you are saying is, that all that was in the public domain about 4th place finishes is totally untrue.
Whatever happens this season including not finishing in the top 4, and finishing midtable is totally acceptable to our owners,and Hughes will be rewarded with another season and another couple of hundred million.
2 very mediocre seasons after over £200 000 000 of finance is all in the bigger scheme of things, your telling me you know this for a fact ?,so I am to assume the players and the squad also know this for a fact ( errrrrrrrrm might explain their don’t give a fcuk performances at least)
Hughes job is safe regardless……………. Roflmao
Seriously mate I have never heard so much complete and utter tosh in my life.
You may think it's tosh but ..... it's true. The players aren't safe though as he can buy/sell/drop anyone he wants.
Like it or lump it .... the first 3 years of their tenure are all about building relationships and credibility. They correctly believe that if they react as the press would like them too, they will never have credibility and that will last forever. However, if they are seen to back and stand by 'a manager' (and MH is just the incumbant) the credibilty the football world will give them will last forever too and they will in coming years be able to recruit who ever they want .
It's a fine balance though Mark, continuing to back a manager if he is clearly failing would also surely damage their credability?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we are at that point yet but it could certainly happen before three years are up!
It is a fine balance but it is the way they run their business. They are more bothered about respect at the moment than results. They believe, get respect within the industry first and then you build up your empire on the back of it. They have the patience and MH is the lucky guy who just had the incumbant position whern they arrived. They do think a lot of him though. Success will come with him or without him ..... they can wait.
Also remember, we are the smallest business they own and we are just one small part of the Abu Dhabi Commercial Masterplan over the next 10 years. The 'next 5 games' threads mean a lot more to us than them at the moment. They are looking at the next 5 YEARS.
Wonderwall wrote:Socrates wrote:I don't think they think in terms of less than twenty years never mind five. Neither would I if it weren't for the threat to the project from UEFA! It's certain that the rush of spending this summer was a reaction to that threat and the correct one. We just have to meet one short term goal and then the long term objectives can take over again.
that makes hughes a victim of circumstance then, therefore, you lot should be cutting him some slack.
DoomMerchant wrote:i didnt wanna have to admit this, but when i took the tour of COMS in September the day after the Arsenal match, i put a fuclin gypsy hex on the dressing room. It's a really unique spell called "Play Shit Football" which i learned a bit from Harry Potter, and also from The Exorcist.
I think this is what CityTiliDouche is referring to...and i'm sorry i did it now. I should have known better. It was rude and if i knew how to uncurse someone i would do it, but my magic is weak sauce. Weak. Sauce.
cheers
CITYTILLIDIE11 wrote:If performances and results don’t improve drastically between now and Christmas he will be gone believe me, it will amount to nothing more than constructive dismissal after he gave assurances to our owner of where we will be at, that means we should be in touching distance of the top 4 not 9th or 10th.
Bluez wrote:CITYTILLIDIE11 wrote:If performances and results don’t improve drastically between now and Christmas he will be gone believe me, it will amount to nothing more than constructive dismissal after he gave assurances to our owner of where we will be at, that means we should be in touching distance of the top 4 not 9th or 10th.
This is the part I find really confusing, if we win our game in hand we would be in 4th. I think that is touching distance of top 4, so why do you think there is a problem? Even according to your own claims he is delivering what he said he would
Or are you now blaming him for the fixture list and the fact that we have played a game less?
The Man In Blue wrote:roblues wrote:I must admit when I read this topic title that I thought somebody might be feeling the same as I was after leaving the game on Saturday. A big influence we as fans can have on the club is to get behind the team on a match day. When I hear people in the row behind telling Tevez to f*** off back to Old Trafford, calling Adebayor lazy and reacting to the late equalizer by saying "I told you so", I have to wonder how they think they are making a valued contribution. I was as disappointed as anyone with the result, the performance and our form over the last couple of games but looking at the bigger picture, I am delighted to feel disappointed when we are currently 6th in the table. We should be encouraging improvement rather than breeding negativity.
excellent post mate.
Original Dub wrote:lythamblue wrote:Socrates wrote:lythamblue wrote:CITYTILLIDIE11 wrote:quote
Sorry mate but you are wrong ..... honestly .... just believe me on this one.
What I have stated, is not my policy ....... !!!!
So let me get this right, what you are saying is, that all that was in the public domain about 4th place finishes is totally untrue.
Whatever happens this season including not finishing in the top 4, and finishing midtable is totally acceptable to our owners,and Hughes will be rewarded with another season and another couple of hundred million.
2 very mediocre seasons after over £200 000 000 of finance is all in the bigger scheme of things, your telling me you know this for a fact ?,so I am to assume the players and the squad also know this for a fact ( errrrrrrrrm might explain their don’t give a fcuk performances at least)
Hughes job is safe regardless……………. Roflmao
Seriously mate I have never heard so much complete and utter tosh in my life.
You may think it's tosh but ..... it's true. The players aren't safe though as he can buy/sell/drop anyone he wants.
Like it or lump it .... the first 3 years of their tenure are all about building relationships and credibility. They correctly believe that if they react as the press would like them too, they will never have credibility and that will last forever. However, if they are seen to back and stand by 'a manager' (and MH is just the incumbant) the credibilty the football world will give them will last forever too and they will in coming years be able to recruit who ever they want .
It's a fine balance though Mark, continuing to back a manager if he is clearly failing would also surely damage their credability?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we are at that point yet but it could certainly happen before three years are up!
It is a fine balance but it is the way they run their business. They are more bothered about respect at the moment than results. They believe, get respect within the industry first and then you build up your empire on the back of it. They have the patience and MH is the lucky guy who just had the incumbant position whern they arrived. They do think a lot of him though. Success will come with him or without him ..... they can wait.
Also remember, we are the smallest business they own and we are just one small part of the Abu Dhabi Commercial Masterplan over the next 10 years. The 'next 5 games' threads mean a lot more to us than them at the moment. They are looking at the next 5 YEARS.
Amen brother Lytham... Amen.
There's a hell of a lot of speculation and personal opinion being spouted in this thread... whilst trying to make it look like ITK. ITK belongs on Bluemong unless you're a well respected member of this site IMO and nothing will change that.
Hughes is going nowhere unless it becomes abundantly clear to our owners that he is the cause of a settled team losing with regularity.
That is NOT the case right now, so all this "He's gone anyday now" and "There's light at the end of the tunnell, I read it in the mirror" bollox should be left to the kids in the playground...
There are problems and they will be sorted.... or else he will be gone. Its quite simple.
And all you football fans who've been following the game for years that think that you buy a top four team on paper and it immediately starts to play better than the teams that have been there an age before, should have a long hard think about all the teams you've seen get to that level before us.
TrueBlue82 wrote:The Man In Blue wrote:roblues wrote:I must admit when I read this topic title that I thought somebody might be feeling the same as I was after leaving the game on Saturday. A big influence we as fans can have on the club is to get behind the team on a match day. When I hear people in the row behind telling Tevez to f*** off back to Old Trafford, calling Adebayor lazy and reacting to the late equalizer by saying "I told you so", I have to wonder how they think they are making a valued contribution. I was as disappointed as anyone with the result, the performance and our form over the last couple of games but looking at the bigger picture, I am delighted to feel disappointed when we are currently 6th in the table. We should be encouraging improvement rather than breeding negativity.
excellent post mate.
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Socrates wrote:There are too many Hughes-type players in the squad
Alex Sapphire wrote:Socrates wrote:There are too many Hughes-type players in the squad
What's one of those?
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