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Petrov FFS!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:18 pm
by Dubciteh
He should be stopped going for international football! out for two weeks....

http://www.football365.com/story/0,1703 ... 62,00.html

Manchester City winger Martin Petrov has been ruled out for up to a fortnight after sustaining a knee injury on international duty.

The 30-year-old, who has scored three goals for his club this season, was with Bulgaria preparing for friendly matches when the problem occurred.

According to City, Petrov has a slight sprain of the inner ligament in the left knee.

He has returned to the club's Carrington training ground where he is undergoing rehabilitation work.



Re: Petrov FFS!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:22 pm
by ant london
at least we can get Robinho back in the team without the mard arsed Bulgar spitting his dummy out this way

fucking annoying though

Re: Petrov FFS!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:03 pm
by DoomMerchant
ant london wrote:at least we can get Robinho back in the team without the mard arsed Bulgar spitting his dummy out this way

fucking annoying though


actually that is a great point CAnt.

When is the little Brasilian BBW-loving midget due back?

cheers

Re: Petrov FFS!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:17 pm
by AlanBallsHat
He is prob gonna play a part in Brazils next game. TBH who cares. Bellers is playing well there and I dont believe for a second that Robinho is at city for the long haul. Barca can have him.

Re: Petrov FFS!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:21 pm
by ant london
AlanBallsHat wrote:He is prob gonna play a part in Brazils next game. TBH who cares. Bellers is playing well there and I dont believe for a second that Robinho is at city for the long haul. Barca can have him.


barking mad that is

Re: Petrov FFS!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:27 pm
by AlanBallsHat
ant london wrote:
AlanBallsHat wrote:He is prob gonna play a part in Brazils next game. TBH who cares. Bellers is playing well there and I dont believe for a second that Robinho is at city for the long haul. Barca can have him.


barking mad that is


Why? I want players playing for city who are committed to the cause. I seriously doubt Robinho is. I think given half a chance he would walk to Catalonia himself. I guarantee you he wont be with us next August. And to get back on topic I think Petrov is more effective down our left anyway.

Re: Petrov FFS!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:40 pm
by Wonderwall
ant london wrote:
AlanBallsHat wrote:He is prob gonna play a part in Brazils next game. TBH who cares. Bellers is playing well there and I dont believe for a second that Robinho is at city for the long haul. Barca can have him.


barking mad that is



not that barking mad, I kind of agree. I only want players who want to play for us. If Robbie says he is here to give city 100% then thats ok with me, everything he has spouted as wanting, is now being done, so he should now produce the goods. I want him on that pitch playing for us with all his heart, but if his heart is eslewhere then he must go. He can still put in some stunning displays IMO, look at the tranny, he didnt want to be at the rags but played fantastic.

Re: Petrov FFS!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:48 pm
by ant london
AlanBallsHat wrote:
ant london wrote:
AlanBallsHat wrote:He is prob gonna play a part in Brazils next game. TBH who cares. Bellers is playing well there and I dont believe for a second that Robinho is at city for the long haul. Barca can have him.


barking mad that is


Why? I want players playing for city who are committed to the cause. I seriously doubt Robinho is. I think given half a chance he would walk to Catalonia himself. I guarantee you he wont be with us next August. And to get back on topic I think Petrov is more effective down our left anyway.



I know what both you and WW are saying here and I agree that if people's hearts aren't committed to the City cause then ultimately we should ship them out and cash in on them.

However, we are in an incredibly strong position vis a vis Robinho.

1 - We don't need the money and could afford to "let him rot in the reserves" and take a big loss on him if we really wanted to (I'm not saying at all that we should countenance doing this but we could)

2 - I'm loathe to "let Barca have" any of our top talent. I am still fucked off with them pissing around with that bonus malarky with Eto'o and I think we need to be robust in our dealings with them

but my main point is

3 - It's a World Cup year, Robinho needs to be playing and needs to be in good form. He's a shoo in for the squad but only if he's showcasing his best. If that means that he has a cracking back end of the season, helps us claim a top 4 CL berth and we go our separate ways in the summer (with us in a strong position to attract a Ribery, Fabiano, whoever) then so be it.

But now is not the time to give up on Robinho, even if his heart (at the end of the season) is leading him elsewhere

Re: Petrov FFS!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:54 pm
by carl_feedthegoat
I THINK YOU WILL FIND THAT THE BRASILIAN PLAYERS WILL NOT "RETIRE" OR CRY AWAY FROM INTERNATIONALS LIKE THE ENGLISH PLAYERS HAVE DONE AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO IN THE FUTURE.

BRASILIAN PLAYERS ARE MORE LOYAL IMO AND SEE PLAYING FOR THEIR NATIONAL SIDE AS THE ULTIMATE (QUITE CORRECTLY) HONOUR THAT THEY CAN RECEIVE.

ENGLISH PLAYERS RETIRE AT AN EARELY AGE OR CRY AWAY FOR WHATEVER REASON RATHER THAN PLAY A FRIENDLY OR "MEANINGLESS" GAME FOR THEIR COUNTRY.

I DO NOT THINK ROBHINO IS DISRESPECTFUL TOWARDS CITY - HE JUST LOVES TO PLAY FOR HIS COUNTRY AND WILL DO WHENEVER HE CAN.

I DONT THINK HE SHOULD BE SLAGGED OFF FOR WANTING TO DO WHAT ANY BRASILIAN WOULD WANT TO DO.

Re: Petrov FFS!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:56 pm
by AlanBallsHat
Wonderwall wrote: He can still put in some stunning displays IMO, look at the tranny, he didnt want to be at the rags but played fantastic.



Tranny is in a different league to everybody Robinho included. Robbie is a fab player but has a Brazilian temprament.... I dont see the same fire in him that tranny has. I dont think Hughes has to much faith in him either. I think Elano going will have had a big effect on him as well.
Hopefully I am wrong and he gets his head down and works but that is not usually the Brazilian way. And as I have said before its not like we are struggling for quality on our left without him.
If we can get our hands on Yaya as a swap I would take it tomorrow.

Re: Petrov FFS!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:59 pm
by Wonderwall
ant london wrote:
I know what both you and WW are saying here and I agree that if people's hearts aren't committed to the City cause then ultimately we should ship them out and cash in on them.

However, we are in an incredibly strong position vis a vis Robinho.

1 - We don't need the money and could afford to "let him rot in the reserves" and take a big loss on him if we really wanted to (I'm not saying at all that we should countenance doing this but we could)

2 - I'm loathe to "let Barca have" any of our top talent. I am still fucked off with them pissing around with that bonus malarky with Eto'o and I think we need to be robust in our dealings with them

but my main point is

3 - It's a World Cup year, Robinho needs to be playing and needs to be in good form. He's a shoo in for the squad but only if he's showcasing his best. If that means that he has a cracking back end of the season, helps us claim a top 4 CL berth and we go our separate ways in the summer (with us in a strong position to attract a Ribery, Fabiano, whoever) then so be it.

But now is not the time to give up on Robinho, even if his heart (at the end of the season) is leading him elsewhere


We are now in a position where we have top players that will only leave us to go to our soon to be rivals, in either England or abroad. It shows how far we have come. I agree that we could see the best of Robbie in 2010

Re: Petrov FFS!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:02 pm
by Paul68
ant london wrote:
AlanBallsHat wrote:
ant london wrote:
AlanBallsHat wrote:He is prob gonna play a part in Brazils next game. TBH who cares. Bellers is playing well there and I dont believe for a second that Robinho is at city for the long haul. Barca can have him.


barking mad that is


Why? I want players playing for city who are committed to the cause. I seriously doubt Robinho is. I think given half a chance he would walk to Catalonia himself. I guarantee you he wont be with us next August. And to get back on topic I think Petrov is more effective down our left anyway.



I know what both you and WW are saying here and I agree that if people's hearts aren't committed to the City cause then ultimately we should ship them out and cash in on them.

However, we are in an incredibly strong position vis a vis Robinho.

1 - We don't need the money and could afford to "let him rot in the reserves" and take a big loss on him if we really wanted to (I'm not saying at all that we should countenance doing this but we could)

2 - I'm loathe to "let Barca have" any of our top talent. I am still fucked off with them pissing around with that bonus malarky with Eto'o and I think we need to be robust in our dealings with them

but my main point is

3 - It's a World Cup year, Robinho needs to be playing and needs to be in good form. He's a shoo in for the squad but only if he's showcasing his best. If that means that he has a cracking back end of the season, helps us claim a top 4 CL berth and we go our separate ways in the summer (with us in a strong position to attract a Ribery, Fabiano, whoever) then so be it.

But now is not the time to give up on Robinho, even if his heart (at the end of the season) is leading him elsewhere


Good point mate...
I certainly don't want to see him go but if he's made his mind up then what can you do? - say goodbye move on and then slam Barc in the CL final and give him some stick! :-)

Re: Petrov FFS!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:04 pm
by ant london
Agree with the point on rivals Bob and i know we have to be realistic in how we deal with them and accept that sometimes we will have to do deals we don't really want to

But I think we need to (and am sure we will be) strong in our resolution to transact on our own terms (both in terms of price and timing) insofar as is possible. Tranny to Madrid is a prime example of what I'd hope we would do with Robinho if he is intent on going to Barca and they want him badly. Agree to the transaction if we must, but post season and at a good price....or maybe contingent on us bringing someone in first etc etc

Re: Petrov FFS!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:07 pm
by AlanBallsHat
carl_feedthegoat wrote:I DONT THINK HE SHOULD BE SLAGGED OFF FOR WANTING TO DO WHAT ANY BRASILIAN WOULD WANT TO DO.


Neither do I. I dont have a problem with him playing for Brazil or even if he prioritises it. I have a bit of a problem with some of the statements he makes in interviews about it being a dream to play for another club etc though.

Re: Petrov FFS!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:11 pm
by AlanBallsHat
ant london wrote:Agree with the point on rivals Bob and i know we have to be realistic in how we deal with them and accept that sometimes we will have to do deals we don't really want to

But I think we need to (and am sure we will be) strong in our resolution to transact on our own terms (both in terms of price and timing) insofar as is possible. Tranny to Madrid is a prime example of what I'd hope we would do with Robinho if he is intent on going to Barca and they want him badly. Agree to the transaction if we must, but post season and at a good price....or maybe contingent on us bringing someone in first etc etc


I agree in principle with all of this but have concerns about him performing badly or unsettling our other players if his heart is not in it.

Re: Petrov FFS!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:18 pm
by ant london
I know what you mean and I think it could very possibly be something that would need careful handling with a lot of pandering to his personality/ego in order to get the best out of him

In terms of the general disruption, last season when he was just in a different league altogether to the rest of the squad in terms of profile/talent I could see it being a real problem.

But if the team were this season heading towards the CL this year things are different. The players themselves now know we have the financial muscle and increasingly the profile (and would hopefully have elite european competition in the bag) to attract the absolute top level of players. So, although it would be a blow to lose Robbie, I think it could be managed in terms of the effect on other players.

Big teams lose big players. Henry/Vieira/Overmars/Petit leaving Arsenal, Beckham going from United, Owen/McManaman going from the Scousers....they were all departures that the rest of the squads knew were coming and they seem to all have been managed pretty ok. That's what we have to aspire to and I'm sure we have the teams/structure in place to raise our collective game to the point that losing Robinho (if it were to happen) needn't derail/disrupt as we might naturally fear

Re: Petrov FFS!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:43 pm
by Robinho_Is_GOD
Petrov wouldn't be playing for City though would he????......as he was signed by a previous manager and even when he has turned in Man of the Match performances and scored goals, he has not got into the team the following game.

Re: Petrov FFS!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:18 pm
by MARKMAKAVELI
I'm so sick of Petrov being injured. He is such an excitin play yet alls he seems to do is get injured. I was so chuffed when he made it back from his last big injury because I'm sure like many others I looked at his age and history and thought the worst. It's lookin like shitty little injuries are gonna keep hittin him and will probably force him to call it a day sometime soon.

Lets hope not coz he is a great player to watch.

Re: Petrov FFS!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:45 pm
by Vhero
Injured at international duty AGAIN?? WTF is it with him and that?

Re: Petrov FFS!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:53 pm
by Blueboylewis
I am actually delighted to say that i have made it on the page of citys site this week. On the city site on the page where it is mentioning petrovs injury i am on the quotes bit if you scroll down!!

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/20 ... for-Petrov