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by Fish111 » Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:07 pm
Kris Kamara has just stated on Goals on Sunday that referees are docked points for not issuing yellow & red cards when they should do during a match by the assessor in the stand and the total amount of points they accumulate over the course of a season equates to a monetary value docked from their end of season bonus!
They are not docked points (MONEY) for issuing incorrect cards by the way.
So the fact is referees are issuing stupid cards for the slightest thing because they are worried they will lose money.
What a fuckin ridiculous situation that is and needs changing immediately to at least them being docked money for issuing incorrect cards as well. Personally i would just scrap any financial benefits just for doing your job correctly.
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by mr_nool » Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:11 pm
That's a horrible system. I much prefer a ref that is able to keep a game in control by taking to the players, and setting a high and consistent standard to a card waiving idiot like yesterday's ref.
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by john68 » Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:04 pm
I disagree Fish...as a society we should give extra cash to referees...the deaf, dumb, blind and stupid bastards...not to mention bent, obviously have a difficult life.
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by BlueinBosnia » Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:10 pm
mr_nool wrote:That's a horrible system. I much prefer a ref that is able to keep a game in control by taking to the players, and setting a high and consistent standard to a card waiving idiot like yesterday's ref.
Although I agree with you to an extent, the fact that England is consistently near the top of the Fair Play League shows that something must be being done right in this system.
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by Dameerto » Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:40 pm
BlueinBosnia wrote:mr_nool wrote:That's a horrible system. I much prefer a ref that is able to keep a game in control by taking to the players, and setting a high and consistent standard to a card waiving idiot like yesterday's ref.
Although I agree with you to an extent, the fact that England is consistently near the top of the Fair Play League shows that something must be being done right in this system.
That's down to the teams, not the referees.
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by Manx Blue » Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:10 pm
fish... I don't know what was said today but kamara said he droppped a bollock yesterday afternoon. He may have been right withe the first one, but the trip he shouldn't have been booked.
Finall, other than sponsorships, I imagine the biggest revenue maker for the FA is bookings... Regardless of level of football (?!)
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by Socrates » Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:09 pm
BlueinBosnia wrote:mr_nool wrote:That's a horrible system. I much prefer a ref that is able to keep a game in control by taking to the players, and setting a high and consistent standard to a card waiving idiot like yesterday's ref.
Although I agree with you to an extent, the fact that England is consistently near the top of the Fair Play League shows that something must be being done right in this system.
England's regular high position in the European Fair Play League does not relate
in any way to games refereed by English officials. Only games regulated by UEFA count for that, including competitive England internationals from senior down to junior representative levels. All these games, by definition, will be refereed by non-English officials outside the FA's pay.
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by BlueinBosnia » Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:20 pm
Socrates wrote:BlueinBosnia wrote:mr_nool wrote:That's a horrible system. I much prefer a ref that is able to keep a game in control by taking to the players, and setting a high and consistent standard to a card waiving idiot like yesterday's ref.
Although I agree with you to an extent, the fact that England is consistently near the top of the Fair Play League shows that something must be being done right in this system.
England's regular high position in the European Fair Play League does not relate
in any way to games refereed by English officials. Only games regulated by UEFA count for that, including competitive England internationals from senior down to junior representative levels. All these games, by definition, will be refereed by non-English officials outside the FA's pay.
So why was everyone bricking it when Dunne got sent off on the last day of the season a few years back? Or is the league of countries arranged independently of the national leagues?
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by ant london » Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:25 pm
BlueinBosnia wrote:
So why was everyone bricking it when Dunne got sent off on the last day of the season a few years back? Or is the league of countries arranged independently of the national leagues?
something like that.
the actual domestic classification is arranged via games in england
but which country gets the UEFA fair play spot etc is determined in UEFA competitions
So in the case you cite, England were already in pole position to get the extra UEFA spot....and Dunne's red card affected City's standing in our own domestic fair play table
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by Socrates » Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:28 pm
ant london wrote:BlueinBosnia wrote:
So why was everyone bricking it when Dunne got sent off on the last day of the season a few years back? Or is the league of countries arranged independently of the national leagues?
something like that.
the actual domestic classification is arranged via games in england
but which country gets the UEFA fair play spot etc is determined in UEFA competitions
So in the case you cite, England were already in pole position to get the extra UEFA spot....and Dunne's red card affected City's standing in our own domestic fair play table
Correct. Also worth mentioning that red and yellow cards only make up 28.57% of the fair play points as well.
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by ant london » Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:33 pm
yeah are strange things like how the referee rates the team and coaching staff in his report not included in the factors that make up the total fair play rating?
(or did i make that up???)
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by Socrates » Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:43 pm
ant london wrote:yeah are strange things like how the referee rates the team and coaching staff in his report not included in the factors that make up the total fair play rating?
(or did i make that up???)
Almost. A UEFA adjudicator sitting in the stands gives points for respect shown to opponents and officials, behaviour of the coaching staff and, also, for "positive style of play" - the latter being a major part of the reason why we qualified when KK as manager!
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by 9secondlegend » Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:33 pm
false advertising on the title of this thread
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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by Socrates » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:09 am
9secondlegend wrote:false advertising on the title of this thread
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
;0)
True, it should have said, "absolutely shocking fact about refs in this country, please write to your MP!"
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by 9secondlegend » Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:21 pm
Socrates wrote:9secondlegend wrote:false advertising on the title of this thread
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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True, it should have said, "absolutely shocking fact about refs in this country, please write to your MP!"
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i was in a pissed sarcastic mood last night!
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