King Kev wrote:To be honest I'm not entirely convinced that it's the way forward but so far so good and it's better than not defending at all.
King Kev wrote:To be honest I'm not entirely convinced that it's the way forward but so far so good and it's better than not defending at all.
9secondlegend wrote:King Kev wrote:To be honest I'm not entirely convinced that it's the way forward but so far so good and it's better than not defending at all.
my scouse mate hates it and reckons that why liverpool are so poor at the back.
benitez sticks by it religously.
im not sure though either , it will be differnet against decent strikers.
johnpb78 wrote:9secondlegend wrote:King Kev wrote:To be honest I'm not entirely convinced that it's the way forward but so far so good and it's better than not defending at all.
my scouse mate hates it and reckons that why liverpool are so poor at the back.
benitez sticks by it religously.
im not sure though either , it will be differnet against decent strikers.
Liverpool's problem certainly isnt a defensive one, it is that the manager sets out to not concede and plays so fucking negative all over the pitch
I think it likely that it may be that we will play different against decent strikers. However what I did like is that if you fill the 6 yard box, it makes the corner taker hit it out to the penalty spot - more often than not the opposition may win the ball as they did tonight, but being so far out will fuck it up.
Get one or two players with the awareness to stand on the edge of the 6 yd box and go and challenge the ball whichever direction it goes, and at least get in the way, and the zonal system could work.
2 clean sheets says it works. Lets see how long it lasts though.
edge275 wrote:johnpb78 wrote:9secondlegend wrote:King Kev wrote:To be honest I'm not entirely convinced that it's the way forward but so far so good and it's better than not defending at all.
my scouse mate hates it and reckons that why liverpool are so poor at the back.
benitez sticks by it religously.
im not sure though either , it will be differnet against decent strikers.
Liverpool's problem certainly isnt a defensive one, it is that the manager sets out to not concede and plays so fucking negative all over the pitch
I think it likely that it may be that we will play different against decent strikers. However what I did like is that if you fill the 6 yard box, it makes the corner taker hit it out to the penalty spot - more often than not the opposition may win the ball as they did tonight, but being so far out will fuck it up.
Get one or two players with the awareness to stand on the edge of the 6 yd box and go and challenge the ball whichever direction it goes, and at least get in the way, and the zonal system could work.
2 clean sheets says it works. Lets see how long it lasts though.
With zonal marking as you rightly pointed out with so many defenders in the six yard box it makes the corner taker hit it out to the penalty spot, but then the beauty of it is their players who are on the penalty spot are static jumping where as our players can run and jump towards it and gain a much better height advantage. You also get the two guys on each post. A big improvement!
Beefymcfc wrote:Strangely enough, I mentioned this after our last game, but no-one answered. I thought I was watching a different game?
It is the easist way to defend, and most logical for us as no one person wants to take responsibility!
edge275 wrote:johnpb78 wrote:9secondlegend wrote:King Kev wrote:To be honest I'm not entirely convinced that it's the way forward but so far so good and it's better than not defending at all.
my scouse mate hates it and reckons that why liverpool are so poor at the back.
benitez sticks by it religously.
im not sure though either , it will be differnet against decent strikers.
Liverpool's problem certainly isnt a defensive one, it is that the manager sets out to not concede and plays so fucking negative all over the pitch
I think it likely that it may be that we will play different against decent strikers. However what I did like is that if you fill the 6 yard box, it makes the corner taker hit it out to the penalty spot - more often than not the opposition may win the ball as they did tonight, but being so far out will fuck it up.
Get one or two players with the awareness to stand on the edge of the 6 yd box and go and challenge the ball whichever direction it goes, and at least get in the way, and the zonal system could work.
2 clean sheets says it works. Lets see how long it lasts though.
With zonal marking as you rightly pointed out with so many defenders in the six yard box it makes the corner taker hit it out to the penalty spot, but then the beauty of it is their players who are on the penalty spot are static jumping where as our players can run and jump towards it and gain a much better height advantage. You also get the two guys on each post. A big improvement!
9secondlegend wrote:my scouse mate hates it and reckons that why liverpool are so poor at the back.
benitez sticks by it religously.
im not sure though either , it will be differnet against decent strikers.
edge275 wrote:Beefymcfc wrote:Strangely enough, I mentioned this after our last game, but no-one answered. I thought I was watching a different game?
It is the easist way to defend, and most logical for us as no one person wants to take responsibility!
Haha not necessarily!
"Who was marking that area!?"
"Not me" x10
colonel_muck wrote:9secondlegend wrote:my scouse mate hates it and reckons that why liverpool are so poor at the back.
benitez sticks by it religously.
im not sure though either , it will be differnet against decent strikers.
they've been shite at it this season no one can doubt, but they've done it ever since he's been managing them, and they had traditionally been a nightmare to break through in years gone by. typical media spiel, when teams do it successfully no one says a thing but as soon as it goes wrong its all down to zonal marking.
carl_feedthegoat wrote:colonel_muck wrote:9secondlegend wrote:my scouse mate hates it and reckons that why liverpool are so poor at the back.
benitez sticks by it religously.
im not sure though either , it will be differnet against decent strikers.
they've been shite at it this season no one can doubt, but they've done it ever since he's been managing them, and they had traditionally been a nightmare to break through in years gone by. typical media spiel, when teams do it successfully no one says a thing but as soon as it goes wrong its all down to zonal marking.
DIDNT THE BINDIPPERS HAVE THE BEST DEFENSE LAST SEASON?
edge275 wrote:carl_feedthegoat wrote:colonel_muck wrote:9secondlegend wrote:my scouse mate hates it and reckons that why liverpool are so poor at the back.
benitez sticks by it religously.
im not sure though either , it will be differnet against decent strikers.
they've been shite at it this season no one can doubt, but they've done it ever since he's been managing them, and they had traditionally been a nightmare to break through in years gone by. typical media spiel, when teams do it successfully no one says a thing but as soon as it goes wrong its all down to zonal marking.
DIDNT THE BINDIPPERS HAVE THE BEST DEFENSE LAST SEASON?
Yes. At set pieces anyway.
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