Director of Football

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

For as long as I have hole in my arse "God Hughsey" will not be director of football in Manchester City Football Club. That I'm 100% sure of.

And credit??? Why not give credit to hundreds of people who work for the Club, doing their job? You are giving Hughes all the credit for changes in infrastructure? So are you saying the club are lieing and this feller and his team is trying to steal credit from "god Hughesy"??

you've got me as wrong as possible here.

The question raised by someone else was would MH make a decent DOF, not should he be in that job here. He's gone and like it or not we have Brian (Sheffield Wednesday) Marwood in that job (if not in name). My point was in any reasonable way, MH is at least as well qualified as BM.

Credit to the staff? Yes. Credit to Jon Stemp yes. Although he's a bit of a dissapointment as the man who gave up a crusade in the public sector to take the football dollar. He's the bloke who would tax the fat (so look out boys).

I "give all the credit to Hughes" NO I don't. Neither of us know where to apportion credit. It says here Stemp "oversaw" it. If it had said "masterminded it" he might be due all the credit. We've already had the discussion on here about Project Managers. They're like midwives, they deliver, but they don't conceive.

However, Stemp IS the guy who talks about the "supporter experience". Well I'm still waiting for that to get markedly better. When is he going to deliver something in the space he cleared out in the stadium??

and you've got to stop referring to Hughes as a god, or indeed God. It doesn't look good (or Good).

Ok. I got you wrong it seems.

And like I said earlier Marwood's experience or rather lack of it, worries me. Hughes IS at least as, if not more, qualified to job. IF we are going down the director of football route I would prefer someone who actually has experience of the job.

[Alex Sapphire]

Marwood's experience or rather lack of it, worries me. Hughes IS at least as, if not more, qualified to job. IF we are going down the director of football route I would prefer someone who actually has experience of the job.

I agree.
Although I went into a Google frenzy the other day to try to prove that all Directors of Football are giants of the game with heaps of experience.
I spose because that was how we've tried to do it (and failed) in England:
Pleat, McMenemy, Bassett, Eriksson, Venables were all experienced managers, while the successes in Europe are not usually that background.
So maybe someone who appears lightweight, but is smart (and understands business) may be better.
Who knows

[Socrates]

Marwood's experience or rather lack of it, worries me. Hughes IS at least as, if not more, qualified to job. IF we are going down the director of football route I would prefer someone who actually has experience of the job.

I agree.
Although I went into a Google frenzy the other day to try to prove that all Directors of Football are giants of the game with heaps of experience.
I spose because that was how we've tried to do it (and failed) in England:
Pleat, McMenemy, Bassett, Eriksson, Venables were all experienced managers, while the successes in Europe are not usually that background.
So maybe someone who appears lightweight, but is smart (and understands business) may be better.
Who knows

Not just maybe! Someone who doesn't think they can manage the team better than the manager should be the first thing on the job spec.

[Alex Sapphire]

Marwood's experience or rather lack of it, worries me. Hughes IS at least as, if not more, qualified to job. IF we are going down the director of football route I would prefer someone who actually has experience of the job.

I agree.
Although I went into a Google frenzy the other day to try to prove that all Directors of Football are giants of the game with heaps of experience.
I spose because that was how we've tried to do it (and failed) in England:
Pleat, McMenemy, Bassett, Eriksson, Venables were all experienced managers, while the successes in Europe are not usually that background.
So maybe someone who appears lightweight, but is smart (and understands business) may be better.
Who knows

Not just maybe! Someone who doesn't think they can manage the team better than the manager should be the first thing on the job spec.

Let's be careful here. If we three all agree, then I'll have to regenerate.
Or something.

[Socrates]

Marwood's experience or rather lack of it, worries me. Hughes IS at least as, if not more, qualified to job. IF we are going down the director of football route I would prefer someone who actually has experience of the job.

I agree.
Although I went into a Google frenzy the other day to try to prove that all Directors of Football are giants of the game with heaps of experience.
I spose because that was how we've tried to do it (and failed) in England:
Pleat, McMenemy, Bassett, Eriksson, Venables were all experienced managers, while the successes in Europe are not usually that background.
So maybe someone who appears lightweight, but is smart (and understands business) may be better.
Who knows

Not just maybe! Someone who doesn't think they can manage the team better than the manager should be the first thing on the job spec.

Let's be careful here. If we three all agree, then I'll have to regenerate.
Or something.

There's hope for you yet...