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New Manchester City boss Roberto Mancini is close to his first signing for the North-West club as he eyes Rubin Kazan's 6 million pound-rated defender Cristian Ansaldi.

Mancini is said to have quickly identified the full-back positions as problem areas for his side, who have conceded more goals than any other of the teams battling for a place in Europe, and he believes the 23-year-old Russian Premier League winner would be perfect to help block some of City's gaps.

Never heard of him. but Im sure hes top notch on youtube

No you tube video for Christian Ansaldi , therefore he is shit and we should not sign him!!

Cristian Ansaldi however does have a you tube video, therefore we should sign him tomorrow

:-)

FM legend. sign him up.

kinkylola wrote:FM legend. sign him up.

yup, good on pro evo too. get him signed.

MARKMAKAVELI wrote:

kinkylola wrote:FM legend. sign him up.

yup, good on pro evo too. get him signed.

What about Fifa though?

lol, yes Ansaldi is pretty good on FM so we should sign him.

Seriously tho, I've heard good things about him in real life too, but I never saw him play so I don't really know.

you joke about FM and Fifa etc but the truth is they do put a lot of work into their scouting system so it can normally be fairly trusted that if a player is good in the game, they've got something about them in real life too - Kompany was an FM legend a good few years back for example !

Wooders wrote:you joke about FM and Fifa etc but the truth is they do put a lot of work into their scouting system so it can normally be fairly trusted that if a player is good in the game, they've got something about them in real life too - Kompany was an FM legend a good few years back for example !

Yeah, I joke about it but many many youngsters who were good in the past FM editions have become internationally recognized players. Van der Vaart being one, as well as Kompany that you already mentioned. Vela was excellent in FM09 and he's not exploded just yet in real life but you never know with those Arsenal youngsters. Weiss is pretty good this year so who knows, maybe he will become a star in a couple seasons, lol.

since we are on the topic, has anyone heard about Jonjo Shelvey in real life? He's supposed to be a pretty good creative midfielder, according to FM10.

CityFanFromRome wrote:

Wooders wrote:you joke about FM and Fifa etc but the truth is they do put a lot of work into their scouting system so it can normally be fairly trusted that if a player is good in the game, they've got something about them in real life too - Kompany was an FM legend a good few years back for example !

Yeah, I joke about it but many many youngsters who were good in the past FM editions have become internationally recognized players. Van der Vaart being one, as well as Kompany that you already mentioned. Vela was excellent in FM09 and he's not exploded just yet in real life but you never know with those Arsenal youngsters. Weiss is pretty good this year so who knows, maybe he will become a star in a couple seasons, lol.

since we are on the topic, has anyone heard about Jonjo Shelvey in real life? He's supposed to be a pretty good creative midfielder, according to FM10.

whats the ratio of FM players becoming as good as their potential? Probably the same ratio of academy kids who dream of playing in the premiership and actually achieving it. Which is very very low.

Wonderwall wrote:whats the ratio of FM players becoming as good as their potential? Probably the same ratio of academy kids who dream of playing in the premiership and actually achieving it. Which is very very low.

Yes, it is very low if you mean FM youngsters becoming superstars. But if you mean FM players becoming honest professionals then the percentage gets higher. Plus, in every FM edition there is a number of "new" very strong youngsters, but those who are amongst them for two, three, even four editions in a row are very few. And out of those normally comes out a very high profile player or more, like the mentioned Van der Vaart, not to mention Messi and Bojan, if not Kompany.

Of course FM can't be the only way to judge a player, or a youngster, but nonetheless they get it right with a decent rate imho.

Wonderwall wrote:

CityFanFromRome wrote:

Wooders wrote:you joke about FM and Fifa etc but the truth is they do put a lot of work into their scouting system so it can normally be fairly trusted that if a player is good in the game, they've got something about them in real life too - Kompany was an FM legend a good few years back for example !

Yeah, I joke about it but many many youngsters who were good in the past FM editions have become internationally recognized players. Van der Vaart being one, as well as Kompany that you already mentioned. Vela was excellent in FM09 and he's not exploded just yet in real life but you never know with those Arsenal youngsters. Weiss is pretty good this year so who knows, maybe he will become a star in a couple seasons, lol.

since we are on the topic, has anyone heard about Jonjo Shelvey in real life? He's supposed to be a pretty good creative midfielder, according to FM10.

whats the ratio of FM players becoming as good as their potential? Probably the same ratio of academy kids who dream of playing in the premiership and actually achieving it. Which is very very low.

I'm not suggesting that FM is some sort of serious scouting program but the way they gather the information by thousands of assistants around the world makes it some sort of indicator especially in more obscure leagues. For example, I played last edition in Finnish second division and all the player ratings seemed to be ridiculously spot on. So I'd assume that for Russian league they'd have pretty good idea about regular players.

For youngsters? Well who knows about them anyway. I was always pissed off because Lee Croft lacked pace and workrate to make it and Micah had shit positioning.

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

Wonderwall wrote:

CityFanFromRome wrote:

Wooders wrote:you joke about FM and Fifa etc but the truth is they do put a lot of work into their scouting system so it can normally be fairly trusted that if a player is good in the game, they've got something about them in real life too - Kompany was an FM legend a good few years back for example !

Yeah, I joke about it but many many youngsters who were good in the past FM editions have become internationally recognized players. Van der Vaart being one, as well as Kompany that you already mentioned. Vela was excellent in FM09 and he's not exploded just yet in real life but you never know with those Arsenal youngsters. Weiss is pretty good this year so who knows, maybe he will become a star in a couple seasons, lol.

since we are on the topic, has anyone heard about Jonjo Shelvey in real life? He's supposed to be a pretty good creative midfielder, according to FM10.

whats the ratio of FM players becoming as good as their potential? Probably the same ratio of academy kids who dream of playing in the premiership and actually achieving it. Which is very very low.

I'm not suggesting that FM is some sort of serious scouting program but the way they gather the information by thousands of assistants around the world makes it some sort of indicator especially in more obscure leagues. For example, I played last edition in Finnish second division and all the player ratings seemed to be ridiculously spot on. So I'd assume that for Russian league they'd have pretty good idea about regular players.

For youngsters? Well who knows about them anyway. I was always pissed off because Lee Croft lacked pace and workrate to make it and Micah had shit positioning.

it may be the new world way forward! Haven't everton recently signed a deal with FM regarding scouting? No joke!

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:For youngsters? Well who knows about them anyway. I was always pissed off because Lee Croft lacked pace and workrate to make it and Micah had shit positioning.

Tiatto's aggression was always far to high for a nice guy like him.

Well we definitely need to strengthen this area of the team, realistically Garrido and Sylvinho are not adequate long term cover for Bridge, and I dont think Bridge should be automatic first choice.

Even so I know nothing about this lad at all, although the team he plays for are quite handy. My fear is that he turns out to be like another promising Argentinian left back - E. Insua aka defensive car crash.

Wonderwall wrote:Haven't everton recently signed a deal with FM regarding scouting? No joke!

haha yes they have, that's a bit extreme imho though.

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
For youngsters? Well who knows about them anyway. I was always pissed off because Lee Croft lacked pace and workrate to make it and Micah had shit positioning.

he has shit positioning and a fair few shit mental stats ... but you play in RB and he is money. He starts every game for me and over 3 season (2x league champs) he's had 7.4 avg rating with a fair number of assists. He's just a battering ram on the flank. ;)

kinkylola wrote:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
For youngsters? Well who knows about them anyway. I was always pissed off because Lee Croft lacked pace and workrate to make it and Micah had shit positioning.

he has shit positioning and a fair few shit mental stats ... but you play in RB and he is money. He starts every game for me and over 3 season (2x league champs) he's had 7.4 avg rating with a fair number of assists. He's just a battering ram on the flank. ;)

Sounds good.

Is he actually left footed or is he another Lahm fake left back?

kinkylola wrote:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
For youngsters? Well who knows about them anyway. I was always pissed off because Lee Croft lacked pace and workrate to make it and Micah had shit positioning.

he has shit positioning and a fair few shit mental stats ... but you play in RB and he is money. He starts every game for me and over 3 season (2x league champs) he's had 7.4 avg rating with a fair number of assists. He's just a battering ram on the flank. ;)

I've replaced him with Azpilicueta from Osasuna, but he can still do a job as cover for the Spanish and the CBs, he rarely disappoints me when I make him start or make him come on from the bench. Don't remember his average rating in the two seasons I've played so far tho.

13021J wrote:
Sounds good.

Is he actually left footed or is he another Lahm fake left back?

I think they were talking about Micah in the FM game mate

kinkylola wrote:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
For youngsters? Well who knows about them anyway. I was always pissed off because Lee Croft lacked pace and workrate to make it and Micah had shit positioning.

he has shit positioning and a fair few shit mental stats ... but you play in RB and he is money. He starts every game for me and over 3 season (2x league champs) he's had 7.4 avg rating with a fair number of assists. He's just a battering ram on the flank. ;)

That was my point. In the end of the day, when Micah was coming through their opinion of Richards was closer to truth than most Blues (of course City researchers ARE Blues but you know what I'm saying).

Since Blue Blood has just brought up the fact we have ageed a deal awaiting player terms...here are a few facts

Ansaldi is a 23-year-old Argentine who plays for Russian champions and Champions League surprise package, Rubin Kazan. The player operates primarily as a left-back but can also be effective in a more offensive position on the left wing. With Wayne Bridge injured and Sylvinho looking completely off the pace, a left-back is a priority for Mancini and Ansaldi may fit the bill. Since his move to Rubin Kazan in January 2008, Ansaldi has established himself as first choice for his club; he has been a constant presence in the side that has won back-to-back league titles. Rubin performed admirably in the Champions League group stage against tough opposition and Ansaldi was particularly impressive. The Russian domestic season is now over and a January move is certainly possible.

Ansaldi is an attacking full-back; he has great stamina and pace that allows him to support his attackers and make overlapping runs on a regular basis. Defensively he is solid, as shown by the impressive performances against Lionel Messi in the Champions League when Rubin kept a clean sheet at home after defeating the Catalans at the Camp Nou. Ansaldi was particularly impressive in the away game as he managed to keep his compatriot quiet for long periods of the game.

Ansaldi recently made his first senior appearance for Argentina in friendly against Spain which his side lost. It is unclear what role he will play for the national team in the future but he is certainly a talented player. His ability to defend well and attack when the time is right makes Ansaldi a very attractive proposition for Manchester City.