Could It REALLY Happen?!

[Beeks]

If we win the league, I'd probably snort 5 grammes, go mad and die in a blaze of glory emptying my AK at the swamp

5 grammes?

Pah...this will be me if we win the league....

[john68]

I genuinely think there is a generation thing going on here.
Oldies like Burt, Gillie, and Myself and very oldies like Walshawe....:-) Seem to have had no trouble taking on board that City can win stuff. Others have been convinced, either by argument, emotion or their wish to dream and have come on board.

To some, it seems too much to actually internalise that City could possibly overtake the 3 teams above us. Arguments used are that Chelsea, Arsenal and the rags could go on runs...but we can't????

Antti
We both know you're a miserable sod....:-), whose glass is always half empty but the truth is that IT IS ALSO HALF FULL.
Life is about the journey and not the destinations. Nobody is actually saying "We WILL win the League", We are saying "We CAN win the league"...What is unrealistic about that.
Chelsea dropped 9pts in December
Arsenal, the rags and Brum have already each dropped 2pts in Feb, to add to what they dropped in December.
We have won four on the trot.
Chelsea, Arsenal and the rags have all got CL campaigns to fight and history shows that teams often drop points, partiicularly after away legs.

Going back to the journey...Do some of you get on trains and wish you were arriving before you set off? Do some of you fail to enjoy the scenery and the landscape...or the book you are reading...or just being able to have a chill...or do complain that the time on the train is wasted time?
We have just under half a season to go, and I for one am going to dream and hope and each week I am going to enjoy the dream that while it is still mathmatically possible we can win it. I am going to have a great journey...I REFUSE TO TO BE FRIGHTENED BY THE FEAR OF FAILURE.
I cannot understand why so many consider, almost out of hand and despite the evidence that we cannot do this.

BIB,
My sig is not meant to be a definitive statement about winning the League. It is meant to show that when we DID win the League our record then was similar to our record now....and no matter how you extrapolate it...you can't change history mate...WE ACTUALLY DID WIN IT THEN...Would you have spent the season shaking your head in '37 or 68. What a miserable season you would have had until the final minute of the last game...cos in '68, it went that close...and WE WON IT....and became CHAMPIONS.

[ENIAM NAM]

I genuinely think there is a generation thing going on here.
Oldies like Burt, Gillie, and Myself and very oldies like Walshawe....:-) Seem to have had no trouble taking on board that City can win stuff. Others have been convinced, either by argument, emotion or their wish to dream and have come on board.

To some, it seems too much to actually internalise that City could possibly overtake the 3 teams above us. Arguments used are that Chelsea, Arsenal and the rags could go on runs...but we can't????

Antti
We both know you're a miserable sod....:-), whose glass is always half empty but the truth is that IT IS ALSO HALF FULL.
Life is about the journey and not the destinations. Nobody is actually saying "We WILL win the League", We are saying "We CAN win the league"...What is unrealistic about that.
Chelsea dropped 9pts in December
Arsenal, the rags and Brum have already each dropped 2pts in Feb, to add to what they dropped in December.
We have won four on the trot.
Chelsea, Arsenal and the rags have all got CL campaigns to fight and history shows that teams often drop points, partiicularly after away legs.

Going back to the journey...Do some of you get on trains and wish you were arriving before you set off? Do some of you fail to enjoy the scenery and the landscape...or the book you are reading...or just being able to have a chill...or do complain that the time on the train is wasted time?
We have just under half a season to go, and I for one am going to dream and hope and each week I am going to enjoy the dream that while it is still mathmatically possible we can win it. I am going to have a great journey...I REFUSE TO TO BE FRIGHTENED BY THE FEAR OF FAILURE.
I cannot understand why so many consider, almost out of hand and despite the evidence that we cannot do this.

BIB,
My sig is not meant to be a definitive statement about winning the League. It is meant to show that when we DID win the League our record then was similar to our record now....and no matter how you extrapolate it...you can't change history mate...WE ACTUALLY DID WIN IT THEN...Would you have spent the season shaking your head in '37 or 68. What a miserable season you would have had until the final minute of the last game...cos in '68, it went that close...and WE WON IT....and became CHAMPIONS.

That may well be the case John, but the question was, can we win the domestic treble. Given that it has never been done, it probably makes the doubters in the thread more realistic than pessimistc!

[john68]

WHAT ABSOLUTE BOLLOCKS...Since when was pessimism ever more realistic than optimism?

...and just because it had never been done before.....
In 1938, No team, as reigning Champions had been relegated.....City did it first.
In 1970, No team had ever won a domestic and European trophy in one season...City did it first.
So what's your point?

It was impossible to climb Everest, or circumnavigate the World without dropping off the edge or go through a complete season without losing a game or win a domestic/European treble, or run a sub four minute mile, or run 100yards in less than 1o seconds, or travel to the Moon...should I go on?
BUT SOME FUCLER DID IT....SO WHY IS IT POSSIBLE FOR OTHERS ...But NOT city????

It is not City that is the problem but the refusal to break down the mental block that CITY AWAYS FAIL>>>>WE DON'T!!!!!

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

WHAT ABSOLUTE BOLLOCKS...Since when was pessimism ever more realistic than optimism?

...and just because it had never been done before.....
In 1938, No team, as reigning Champions had been relegated.....City did it first.
In 1970, No team had ever won a domestic and European trophy in one season...City did it first.
So what's your point?

It was impossible to climb Everest, or circumnavigate the World without dropping off the edge or go through a complete season without losing a game or win a domestic/European treble, or run a sub four minute mile, or run 100yards in less than 1o seconds, or travel to the Moon...should I go on?
BUT SOME FUCLER DID IT....SO WHY IS IT POSSIBLE FOR OTHERS ...But NOT city????

It is not City that is the problem but the refusal to break down the mental block that CITY AWAYS FAIL>>>>WE DON'T!!!!!

John, someone needs to hire you as motivational speaker for companies!

[ENIAM NAM]

WHAT ABSOLUTE BOLLOCKS...Since when was pessimism ever more realistic than optimism?

...and just because it had never been done before.....
In 1938, No team, as reigning Champions had been relegated.....City did it first.
In 1970, No team had ever won a domestic and European trophy in one season...City did it first.
So what's your point?

It was impossible to climb Everest, or circumnavigate the World without dropping off the edge or go through a complete season without losing a game or win a domestic/European treble, or run a sub four minute mile, or run 100yards in less than 1o seconds, or travel to the Moon...should I go on?
BUT SOME FUCLER DID IT....SO WHY IS IT POSSIBLE FOR OTHERS ...But NOT city????

It is not City that is the problem but the refusal to break down the mental block that CITY AWAYS FAIL>>>>WE DON'T!!!!!

FFS. The question was can we win the domestic treble. My answer is NO. Lets look at this thread in May and see how pessimistic I am being.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

I find it difficult to concentrate on my book when I'm on a train journey!

[john68]

WHAT ABSOLUTE BOLLOCKS...Since when was pessimism ever more realistic than optimism?

...and just because it had never been done before.....
In 1938, No team, as reigning Champions had been relegated.....City did it first.
In 1970, No team had ever won a domestic and European trophy in one season...City did it first.
So what's your point?

It was impossible to climb Everest, or circumnavigate the World without dropping off the edge or go through a complete season without losing a game or win a domestic/European treble, or run a sub four minute mile, or run 100yards in less than 1o seconds, or travel to the Moon...should I go on?
BUT SOME FUCLER DID IT....SO WHY IS IT POSSIBLE FOR OTHERS ...But NOT city????

It is not City that is the problem but the refusal to break down the mental block that CITY AWAYS FAIL>>>>WE DON'T!!!!!

FFS. The question was can we win the domestic treble. My answer is NO. Lets look at this thread in May and see how pessimistic I am being.

If the question was WILL WE?...I could understand your answer.
The question is CAN WE?...Why do you discount even the possibility that we can?

I don't know if we WILL....BUT I AM FUCLIN CERTAIN THAT WE CAN.

[Beeks]

Obviously in THEORY it could happen...in THEORY Area 51 is full of Aliens

In reality...we MIGHT and I say MIGHT win a cup and take 4th...I would be absolutely over the moon if this is the case

Anything more and it is an absolute bonus i'd be happy to take

[CityFanFromRome]

FFS. The question was can we win the domestic treble. My answer is NO. Lets look at this thread in May and see how pessimistic I am being.

Well you said it yourself, the question is if we can, not if we will. So whether we do it or not, it doesn't matter for the question, what matters is, is our team strong enough to have the chance to do it? In my opinion YES. From this to actually do it, there's a lot of road to cover, but the possibility is there.

[Lee_R]

If we'd of beaten Bolton, Hull and Burnley (which we definately should of) we'd be a point behind Chelsea now... is that realistic?.. Its FACT.
There is absolutely no reason why we can't win the lot!
In the league if the rags, Chelsea or Arsenal were 7 points behind the leaders we would still say they have a good chance of winning it. I think its time to be a bit more optimistic boys.. get with the program! I know were not used to winning things and some of you are a bit outside your comfort zone but ffs...! And I dont understand people who predict we might only get to the FA cup semis.. whats the point in that at all?! Anything can happen in a semi so why not just have a little faith and be optimistic we have a good squad so can go for the lot. We CAN actually beat anyone you know!? We beat Barca in August ffs and since then weve beat Chelsea, Arsenal and the Rags were given as much time as they needed.
My missus hates gambling but suggested I should put a 5er on us winning the treble... hmmm.

[Beeks]

I'm quite shocked at the amount of rag fans who think we can do it

check this out

http://www.redcafe.net/f7/can-city-moun ... ge-282133/

[Wonderwall]

If we'd of beaten Bolton, Hull and Burnley (which we definately should of) we'd be a point behind Chelsea now... is that realistic?.. Its FACT.
There is absolutely no reason why we can't win the lot!
In the league if the rags, Chelsea or Arsenal were 7 points behind the leaders we would still say they have a good chance of winning it. I think its time to be a bit more optimistic boys.. get with the program! I know were not used to winning things and some of you are a bit outside your comfort zone but ffs...! And I dont understand people who predict we might only get to the FA cup semis.. whats the point in that at all?! Anything can happen in a semi so why not just have a little faith and be optimistic we have a good squad so can go for the lot. We CAN actually beat anyone you know!? We beat Barca in August ffs and since then weve beat Chelsea, Arsenal and the Rags were given as much time as they needed.
My missus hates gambling but suggested I should put a 5er on us winning the treble... hmmm.

lee you cannot start a sentence with IF and end it with FACT. the two dont go together. WE DIDNT WIN THEM FACT!

[london blue 2]

If we'd of beaten Bolton, Hull and Burnley (which we definately should of) we'd be a point behind Chelsea now... is that realistic?.. Its FACT.
There is absolutely no reason why we can't win the lot!

Lee if we'd have won every game last year we'd be champions FACT. I don't see your point.

yes it's possible, not really probable but either way i'd rather us humbly go about about our job without giving people ammunition to take the piss if we do trip up along the way.

COME ON CITY YOU CAN DO IT!

[JB]

If we'd of beaten Bolton, Hull and Burnley (which we definately should of) we'd be a point behind Chelsea now... is that realistic?.. Its FACT.
There is absolutely no reason why we can't win the lot!
In the league if the rags, Chelsea or Arsenal were 7 points behind the leaders we would still say they have a good chance of winning it. I think its time to be a bit more optimistic boys.. get with the program! I know were not used to winning things and some of you are a bit outside your comfort zone but ffs...! And I dont understand people who predict we might only get to the FA cup semis.. whats the point in that at all?! Anything can happen in a semi so why not just have a little faith and be optimistic we have a good squad so can go for the lot. We CAN actually beat anyone you know!? We beat Barca in August ffs and since then weve beat Chelsea, Arsenal and the Rags were given as much time as they needed.
My missus hates gambling but suggested I should put a 5er on us winning the treble... hmmm.

lee you cannot start a sentence with IF and end it with FACT. the two dont go together. WE DIDNT WIN THEM FACT!

Sorry to be a pedant KK, but using 'if' doesn't prevent you from using fact at the end of a sentence. The first and second conditionals refer to hypothetical situations which can remain factual within a hypothetical or theoretical context. It is a mathematical fact that if we had won those games we would now be a point behind Chelsea. Can we win the league? The FA Cup? The League Cup? As we are still in both cup competitions and and only 7 points behind the leaders of the EPL with 18 games to go, why not?

I'm going to enjoy the ride.

[Wonderwall]

If we'd of beaten Bolton, Hull and Burnley (which we definately should of) we'd be a point behind Chelsea now... is that realistic?.. Its FACT.
There is absolutely no reason why we can't win the lot!
In the league if the rags, Chelsea or Arsenal were 7 points behind the leaders we would still say they have a good chance of winning it. I think its time to be a bit more optimistic boys.. get with the program! I know were not used to winning things and some of you are a bit outside your comfort zone but ffs...! And I dont understand people who predict we might only get to the FA cup semis.. whats the point in that at all?! Anything can happen in a semi so why not just have a little faith and be optimistic we have a good squad so can go for the lot. We CAN actually beat anyone you know!? We beat Barca in August ffs and since then weve beat Chelsea, Arsenal and the Rags were given as much time as they needed.
My missus hates gambling but suggested I should put a 5er on us winning the treble... hmmm.

lee you cannot start a sentence with IF and end it with FACT. the two dont go together. WE DIDNT WIN THEM FACT!

Sorry to be a pedant KK, but using 'if' doesn't prevent you from using fact at the end of a sentence. The first and second conditionals refer to hypothetical situations which can remain factual within a hypothetical or theoretical context. It is a mathematical fact that if we had won those games we would now be a point behind Chelsea. Can we win the league? The FA Cup? The League Cup? As we are still in both cup competitions and and only 7 points behind the leaders of the EPL with 18 games to go, why not?

I'm going to enjoy the ride.

why are you apologising to KK? Its a fact that you are indeed being pedantic

[Kladze]

For those experiencing F.L.O.P. (Failure of Long Optimism Potential) may I suggest they try looking at the next game and asking "Can we win this game, or at least take a draw from it being as it's an away game at a difficult venue?"

The answer needs to be yes ....

Now ask that question of each subsequent game and the answer - every time - needs to be yes.

In that case the answer to the question John68 and Burt are asking is necessarily "Yes we CAN do it".


If we the fans find it hard to believe and transmit that apprehension to the players then it will be twice as hard for the players to believe.



So now you're gonna believe uussssssssssssssssss
(Altogether now - go on, you know you can do it)

You should now be affected by Success of Long Optimism Potential ;- )

[Burt]

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh shipmates!

Cap'n Burt is back!

Wonderful to see more and more people on ere willing to at least believe that anything is possible and very interesting to read the devilworshipper and dipper links both agreeing that we can win the League at least. If they are are thinking it, then why da fucl aint some of you jumpin on board our vessel of merry men?

As I said earlier, if the team get wind of the fact that us fans think that we can win then this will only help to confirm their own beliefs and help us to get stronger and stronger and stronger. Other teams, especially the big boys will sense this and we can win games before a ball has even been kicked if we continue this tidal wave of positiveness. That shower of shite over the road have been doing it for years but now they are experiencing doubts and fears. This helps to feed us and make us stronger still.

Splice the mainbrace me hearties and shiver me timbers I'll be fucled if we don't give this our best shot.

There's free rations of grog and barrells of Holts gary glitter for all you scurvy seadaaarrrrrrrrrgs if you jump aboard and man the cannons.

The jolly roger is blowing in the breeze and we're settin full sail ahead to gun down those pesky devilworshippers and cock a knee fly boys.

Me cutlass is at the ready and me musket's clean an dry.

Arrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

[john@staustell]

Burt - you been on another lunchtime session?

[Burt]

Burt - you been on another lunchtime session?

Nahhh mate, only 3 pints o Boddies.