Nick wrote:Not trying to bring doom, just thought it was a surprise and hasn't really been given much coverage.
He added: "I think they are putting me to the test. I won't disappoint them." You dont really have to read between the lines from that line.
Blue Blood wrote:He probably has money if he really needed it, but why put more pressure on his position by signing someone for a large fee and it potentially not working out, when he has to convince the board to extend his deal longer than the trial 6 months.
Loans with an option to buy are a very sensible move for all partys involved imo.
To say we have no money is rediculious!
Florida Blue wrote:Blue Blood wrote:He probably has money if he really needed it, but why put more pressure on his position by signing someone for a large fee and it potentially not working out, when he has to convince the board to extend his deal longer than the trial 6 months.
Loans with an option to buy are a very sensible move for all partys involved imo.
To say we have no money is rediculious!
Agreed, and frankly, despite all the negativity we have seen on this board, let's face facts.
1. Where were we a year ago? A hell of a lot more than 3 losses and out of the domestic cups
2. Where were we two years ago? A hell of a lot more than 3 losses and out of all cups
3. Strikers: We have added 4 new top flight strikers in last 12 months, do we need more, esp now that Benjani has proved to be sufficent cover as our FIFTH option?
4. Midfield: Added Barry, de Jong, Vierra in the past 12 months, Ireland is a top player, SWP and Petrov play their rolls very well. Losing Johnson was a shame. Kompany, Sylvinho, Garrido and Zaba can slot in at any time they are needed.
5. Defenders: Let me see, conceded 4 goals since Mancini has come to town and had 3 clean sheets, that is an improvement considering Lescott, Bridge and Onuha have been hurt, Toure is in the ANC and Kompany is just back from injury. Not to mention relying on Boyata to come in and play a large roll wet behind the ears, and having Richards play out of position. When healthy Lescott and Bridge could actually have to battle for spots. Garrido has looked as good as Bridge if not more defensively responsible (though that may be what Bridge will do under Mancini), and Boyata and Kompany have clearly raised the bar for Lescott, who might be as likely to get time at left back than at CB.
6. Keeper.. well ok maybe we need a better deputy to Shay.
Ok so now it is the January window, 12-13 days left. Most of the talent that would really make sense is tied up in the Champions league or on teams that have bowed out, but are fighting for their league titles, so who could we really bring in to make a major improvement on this squad?
I see no reason to scream "we need" when the only issue is getting used to the new system and getting our injured players along with Ade and Toure back into side.
There is no need to foolishly bring in players, we have the talent to be top 4 (think about it if we did not force ourselves to settle for all those draws... hell if just 3 of them were wins (which is easily the number of times we blew leads with poor shape that we have not seen under RM) we would be 4 points adrift from the top with a game in hand.
We are there lads, right on the step. We were what, 11th and 10th the last 2 seasons?
AlpsMaster wrote:Florida Blue wrote:Blue Blood wrote:He probably has money if he really needed it, but why put more pressure on his position by signing someone for a large fee and it potentially not working out, when he has to convince the board to extend his deal longer than the trial 6 months.
Loans with an option to buy are a very sensible move for all partys involved imo.
To say we have no money is rediculious!
Agreed, and frankly, despite all the negativity we have seen on this board, let's face facts.
1. Where were we a year ago? A hell of a lot more than 3 losses and out of the domestic cups
2. Where were we two years ago? A hell of a lot more than 3 losses and out of all cups
3. Strikers: We have added 4 new top flight strikers in last 12 months, do we need more, esp now that Benjani has proved to be sufficent cover as our FIFTH option?
4. Midfield: Added Barry, de Jong, Vierra in the past 12 months, Ireland is a top player, SWP and Petrov play their rolls very well. Losing Johnson was a shame. Kompany, Sylvinho, Garrido and Zaba can slot in at any time they are needed.
5. Defenders: Let me see, conceded 4 goals since Mancini has come to town and had 3 clean sheets, that is an improvement considering Lescott, Bridge and Onuha have been hurt, Toure is in the ANC and Kompany is just back from injury. Not to mention relying on Boyata to come in and play a large roll wet behind the ears, and having Richards play out of position. When healthy Lescott and Bridge could actually have to battle for spots. Garrido has looked as good as Bridge if not more defensively responsible (though that may be what Bridge will do under Mancini), and Boyata and Kompany have clearly raised the bar for Lescott, who might be as likely to get time at left back than at CB.
6. Keeper.. well ok maybe we need a better deputy to Shay.
Ok so now it is the January window, 12-13 days left. Most of the talent that would really make sense is tied up in the Champions league or on teams that have bowed out, but are fighting for their league titles, so who could we really bring in to make a major improvement on this squad?
I see no reason to scream "we need" when the only issue is getting used to the new system and getting our injured players along with Ade and Toure back into side.
There is no need to foolishly bring in players, we have the talent to be top 4 (think about it if we did not force ourselves to settle for all those draws... hell if just 3 of them were wins (which is easily the number of times we blew leads with poor shape that we have not seen under RM) we would be 4 points adrift from the top with a game in hand.
We are there lads, right on the step. We were what, 11th and 10th the last 2 seasons?
I agree with all of that (apart from there being 33-34 days in January ;-)) and just because I think the oil well has temporarily run dry, I don't think we need to worry too much.
Blue Blood wrote:Nick wrote:Not trying to bring doom, just thought it was a surprise and hasn't really been given much coverage.
He added: "I think they are putting me to the test. I won't disappoint them." You dont really have to read between the lines from that line.
Lets be honest though if you were mr mansour and you'd just seen your previous manager blow 17million on a crocked striker and 24 million on 10 million pounds worth of cb, wouldn't you hold the purse strings abit tight until your new guy proved he actually knows his stuff.
If mancini hits top 4 and proves his worth, he'll have a nice pot of transfer gold come the summer.
Imo i think the powers that be are being very sensible.
BobKowalski wrote:They have spunked £200m+ on players in the 16 months since they bought the club. Now they want a return on that investment. I said all along that we have a great squad and we need to get that working. Prior to his departure Hughes was talking in the media about needing new players with the 'right attitude' and how 'they were going to do their homework this time' - like you weren't doing that first time round? We can not work on the principle of buying a new team every 6 months. Sooner or later you have to make what you have work and that is what Mancini has to do and so far is doing pretty well. Personally I think talk of new players is partly what did for Hughes in the end.
IanBishopsHaircut wrote:Forgot about Eto'o haha!
Anyone know how he's doing?
IanBishopsHaircut wrote:fucks sake...this moves 'reading between the lines' to a whole new level
you'd think you couldn't make it up...but you just did
Nick wrote:BobKowalski wrote:They have spunked £200m+ on players in the 16 months since they bought the club. Now they want a return on that investment. I said all along that we have a great squad and we need to get that working. Prior to his departure Hughes was talking in the media about needing new players with the 'right attitude' and how 'they were going to do their homework this time' - like you weren't doing that first time round? We can not work on the principle of buying a new team every 6 months. Sooner or later you have to make what you have work and that is what Mancini has to do and so far is doing pretty well. Personally I think talk of new players is partly what did for Hughes in the end.
I agree with all the posts on here. My one question is why did hughes want Ade. Hughes loves players with a good attitude and he needs credit for that. Its the spine of our team; Given, bellers, zaba, vince, de jong, tevez. Eto was probably an owners thing, and you cant deny his class even if he is a bit of a cock. But adebayor?! I was surprised he had the start (and put the work in) that he did until he got the ban. Since then hes been piss poor and his work rate has been similar to benjanis.
Nick wrote:BobKowalski wrote:They have spunked £200m+ on players in the 16 months since they bought the club. Now they want a return on that investment. I said all along that we have a great squad and we need to get that working. Prior to his departure Hughes was talking in the media about needing new players with the 'right attitude' and how 'they were going to do their homework this time' - like you weren't doing that first time round? We can not work on the principle of buying a new team every 6 months. Sooner or later you have to make what you have work and that is what Mancini has to do and so far is doing pretty well. Personally I think talk of new players is partly what did for Hughes in the end.
I agree with all the posts on here. My one question is why did hughes want Ade. Hughes loves players with a good attitude and he needs credit for that. Its the spine of our team; Given, bellers, zaba, vince, de jong, tevez. Eto was probably an owners thing, and you cant deny his class even if he is a bit of a cock. But adebayor?! I was surprised he had the start (and put the work in) that he did until he got the ban. Since then hes been piss poor and his work rate has been similar to benjanis.
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